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jamie

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Is one Christ-rejecting nation better than any other Christ-rejecting nation?

If you believe one is better, which one and why?
 

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this is going to be interesting.

I don't think there will be very many responses. Most on TOL realize that the only access anyone has to the Father is through the Son. Those who reject the son automatically reject the Father.

Those without the Father are Godless, meaning they don't have God or Savior.

The State of Israel is about as Christian as Iran.

Okay, maybe not as much as Iran.
 

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I don't think there will be very many responses. Most on TOL realize that the only access anyone has to the Father is through the Son. Those who reject the son automatically reject the Father.

Those without the Father are Godless, meaning they don't have God or Savior.

The State of Israel is about as Christian as Iran.

Okay, maybe not as much as Iran.

But we will not be judged according to our nationality. We will be judged individually.
 

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But we will not be judged according to our nationality. We will be judged individually.

Muslim is not a nationality and Jew is not a nationality. Both reject Christ.

The God of Abraham promised blessings to his son Ismael.
 

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Muslim is not a nationality and Jew is not a nationality. Both reject Christ.

The God of Abraham promised blessings to his son Ismael.

Most of them live in nations: Muslims in Muslim country Jews in Israel..
 
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It looks to me like the consensus is that none of the Christ-rejecting nations are better than any other Christ-rejecting nation.

Israel, North Korea, Iran ... little to no difference. Without the Son they are godless.
 

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It looks to me like the consensus is that none of the Christ-rejecting nations are better than any other Christ-rejecting nation.

Israel, North Korea, Iran ... little to no difference. Without the Son they are godless.

Acts 17:23

For passing through and beholding your objects of worship, I even found an altar on which had been inscribed: To an unknown God. Therefore whom you worship not knowing, Him I proclaim to you

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It looks to me like the consensus is that none of the Christ-rejecting nations are better than any other Christ-rejecting nation.

Israel, North Korea, Iran ... little to no difference. Without the Son they are godless.

Christians are everywhere. We are all judged individually, not by where we live.
 

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King James Bible
And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.

# clearing throat....
# "The Angel of the Lord Said" Genesis 16:11-12

It's funny how the ToL link with the scripture I posted paints a different outcome than a blessing. Hmmmm

Perhaps he has become a great nation that is...

.......a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

Does that remind you of a picture I overpost?

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Hmmmmmmmm... Which of these nations is currently beheading and spreading terror like a KJV Donkey? Which of these nations looks like fruitful rabbits producing offspring? Which of these nations are bent on spreading their religion to all corners of the globe, no matter the cost? Which of these nations can we thank for... ISIS?

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meshak

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It's funny how the ToL link with the scripture I posted paints a different outcome than a blessing. Hmmmm

He just showed what the Bible says.

You use the scripture to back up and so did he.

You seem to support bloody affair of the world.

I will bring the verses to claim you are in the wrong to justify war.
 

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here you go EE:

Luke 6:27-36 King James Version)

27But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
28Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
29And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
30Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
32For if ye love them which love you what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them. 33And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
34And if ye to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.
35But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
36Be ye therefore merciful, as your Fatheralso is merciful.

and some more:

Matthew 26:52
“Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.

Matthew 5:9
Blessed are the peacemakers, For they shall be called sons of God.

Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm."
John 18:36

And His faithful disciple harmonize with Jesus' word:

For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. (2 corinthian 10:4-5)

Romans 12:17-21
17Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay," says the Lord. 20Therefore "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink; For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head." 21Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

II Corinthians 10:3,4
"For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds."

Ephesians 6:12
"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places."
 

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Is one Christ-rejecting nation better than any other Christ-rejecting nation?

If you believe one is better, which one and why?
Not necessarily "better" as in "gooder", but could simply be elected and beloved of GOD. (Rom 11:28)


GOD chose Israel over other nations, and yet He says He didn't choose them because they were better than other nations.
Even makes the point clear in saying that He chose Israel in the womb before they had done anything at all (good or bad). (Rom 9:11)
 

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Not necessarily "better" as in "gooder", but could simply be elected and beloved of GOD. (Rom 11:28)


GOD chose Israel over other nations, and yet He says He didn't choose them because they were better than other nations.
Even makes the point clear in saying that He chose Israel in the womb before they had done anything at all (good or bad). (Rom 9:11)

Leaning in... whispering "and the crowd says"

Stepping back, standing up, raising my head towards the sky and loudly enunciating... "AMEN"
 
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