Israel but we are all part of Israel.
And, Kabooooooooooom! With that assertion, you can "prove" anything.
You are dismissed, Col. Klink.
Israel but we are all part of Israel.
And, Kabooooooooooom! With that assertion, you can "prove" anything.
You are dismissed, Col. Klink.
If there are actually two gospels, then there's a typo or two here :
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Romans 1:16-17
Tet, how does this apply to you?
1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1 John 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
1 John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
does anyone have a rational explanation as to why there would be two gospels?
and
please no scripture
just reason and logic
Wow! I'm floored! I've never seen that verse before!!! Teach me.....Please?!
"that I will make with the house of Israel:"
Who do you think the House of Israel became?
Hos 8:8 Israel is swallowed up; now they are among the Gentiles like a vessel in which there is no pleasure.
Who did Christ come for first? Hint The House of Judah was not lost when Christ spoke that.
Mat 15:24 But He answered and said, "I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
You bring up some interesting points.
And, as usual, where people will differ on these things, depends upon where they are looking at them from, to begin with:
Through the Scripture, through their own eyes, or through the eyes of others looking at these things, if not through some combination of each of those.
You have made yours in this obvious.
Most my life, I have looked at most things I have attempted to understand in many areas of life in general through recurrent patterns I then attempt to backtrack a thing through to its origin and or general rule of thumb as to its inner workings.
I look for recurrent patterns and the principles they are a symptom of, or appear to manifest.
In this, while others might focus on a Greek article, mood, and so on, I tend to focus on "the volume of the book" as its own key witness - through its own, recurrent patterns as to what general principles they point back to.
I hold to a two gospel understanding as a result of that.
Why will no one address my remarks which I made to nikolai here?:
The correct understanding of the verses is as follows:
"For I am not ashamed of the good news of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth."
There is more than one instance of the "good news" which is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth.
For instance, one thing which is the "good news" of Christ is the fact that He died for our sins. And believing that good news brings salvation (1 Cor.15:1-3).
Another thing which is the "good news" of Christ is the fact that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God. And belief of that good news brings life to all who believe it:
"But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name" (Jn.20:31).
Those who believe that truth receive life by being born of God:
"Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God...For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?" (1 Jn.5:1-5).
And, Kabooooooooooom! With that assertion, you can "prove" anything.
You are dismissed, Col. Klink.
Ok Johnny
Pro 3:35 The wise shall inherit glory, but shame shall be the legacy of fools.
Johnny you need to pick up your bible. Maybe start at the beginning of the book and not the end this time.
Gen 48:19 But his father refused and said, "I know, my son, I know. He also shall become a people, and he also shall be great; but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his descendants shall become a multitude of nations." (Gentiles)
Hos 2:23 Then I will sow her for Myself in the earth, and I will have mercy on her who had not obtained mercy; then I will say to those who were not My people, 'You are My people!' And they shall say, 'You are my God!' "
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Peter tells us this was fulfilled
(1 Peter 2:10 KJV) Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
Dispensationalists claim Peter was addressing Jews.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Only the Israelites from the 10 tribes were told they were not a people, and that God would not have mercy on them.
God had mercy on the Jews:
(Hosea 1:7 KJV) But I will have mercy upon the house of Judah,....
Yet, the Darby followers claim Peter was addressing Jews.
A Jew may be an Israelite and an Israelite may not necessarily be a Jew.
But it is their reunification as "one sheepfold" with "David" as "their Shepard" that is always ultimately in view.
Synthesis, bringing together many principles into a pattern is an important task we have to accomplish when we interpret the scriptures. We have to see the panorama or broad sweep of the counsel of God if we are to have balanced doctrine. This is a worthy goal.
As for me I hesitate to build the big picture until I know that I understand the language of the texts. I have been in error before and I have known many people in much worse error who took this and that verse and made it all seem to fit together - but it ended up being false. To me verses must be addressed first because, if I am honest, the language itself will prevent me from extrapolating into my imagination. I am most confident when my studies can disprove my presuppositions and that happens sometimes. I have changed my mind on some rather large issues since I have been coming here. Still we have to be careful about constructing those schema when a lot of verses have to be adjusted to fit.
All Jews are Israelites, not all Israelites are Jews. The Israelites from the 10 tribes of the Northern Nation of Israel were not Jews. The first time the word "Jews" is found in the KJV, the Jews are at war against Israel...
ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you