WHICH CHURCH WAS HEBREWS WRITTEN TO?

[God's Truth]

It's up to YOU to PROVE that Paul is under the new covenant.

You need to prove he wasn't, but you can't.

I always prove what I say.

Paul says plainly that he is the minister of the covenant of Jesus' blood.

Galatians 3:15 Brothers, let me put this in human terms. Even a human covenant, once it is ratified, cannot be canceled or amended.


Jesus made a covenant and said HOW to get saved and receive the Holy Spirit.

Paul can't add to that or change it in any way.

Jesus wouldn't even change it.

You ALSO need to PROVE that Paul told gentiles that THEY were under the new covenant.

It is the covenant that Paul was a minster for and to the Gentiles.

You need to PROVE that as well.

Genesis 17:7 I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you.

Luke 1:55
as He promised to our fathers, to Abraham and his descendants forever."

Galatians 3:16
The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say, "and to seeds," meaning many, but "and to your seed," meaning One, who is Christ.


Galatians 3:7 Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham.

 

[God's Truth]

Right Divider

It would be pretty silly and weird for the people of Corinth to have a Lord's Supper in remembrance of the Covenant if they were not in the Covenant! And then die because they were false in the way they remembered it.


1 Corinthians 11: 20So then, when you come together, it is not the Lord’s Supper you eat, 21for when you are eating, some of you go ahead with your own private suppers. As a result, one person remains hungry and another gets drunk. 22Don’t you have homes to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God by humiliating those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you? Certainly not in this matter!

23For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, 24and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.” 25In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” 26For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.

27So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. 28Everyone ought to examine themselves before they eat of the bread and drink from the cup. 29For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves. 30That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep. 31But if we were more discerning with regard to ourselves, we would not come under such judgment. 32Nevertheless, when we are judged in this way by the Lord, we are being disciplined so that we will not be finally condemned with the world.

 

[God's Truth]

Right Divider

I keep giving you scriptures that prove what I say and you keep ignoring them.


Luke 22:20 In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.

1 Corinthians 10:16
Is not the cup of blessing that we bless a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ?

2 Corinthians 3:6
And He has qualified us as ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

 

[JudgeRightly]

A person cannot belong to God unless it is a covenant.

Did Noah belong to God? How about Enoch? How about Abel?

What evidence do you have that supports your claim that "a person cannot belong to God unless it is a covenant?"

 

[Right Divider]

Did Noah belong to God? How about Enoch? How about Abel?

What evidence do you have that supports your claim that "a person cannot belong to God unless it is a covenant?"

She's immune to facts. She has a story and she's going to force it upon the Bible no matter what.

 

[Theo102]

Get Jesus' teachings in the New Testament and start obeying them, then ask God for what you desire.

One of these teachings is to be perfect, but that doesn't work with the idea that "God" would want an innocent man be tortured to death.

As for myself, I grew up on Catholic Bibles, then after getting saved I prayed about it and went and got a Bible in our English that is used nowadays.

I do use the King James Version along with a translation in English we can understand.

The NIV is an International version, meaning that many different denominations got together and had to agree.

I do not believe in any denomination, but it is good to know that many of different denominations had to agree.

I do not use the New King James Version, or the English Standard Version, because it is translated by Calvinists.

OK, so you seem to look to the KJV as an authoritative source. Do you know about the translation errors, eg:

The heart is deceitful[עקב] above all things, and desperately wicked[אנש]: who can know it?
Jeremiah 17:9

עקב = undulating (hilly)

אנש = sociable (men/people)

 

[God's Truth]

Did Noah belong to God? How about Enoch? How about Abel?

What evidence do you have that supports your claim that "a person cannot belong to God unless it is a covenant?"

Adam and Eve had a covenant with God, but the word 'covenant' wasn't said.

When they broke the covenant God had with them, they and their descendants were expected to do right.

By the time of Noah, the people were bad, and God made a Covenant with Noah and his descendants, and Enoch is a descendant of Noah.

 

[God's Truth]

One of these teachings is to be perfect, but that doesn't work with the idea that "God" would want an innocent man be tortured to death.

It was God's plan. You have to make up your mind if you are going to be a believer or not.

OK, so you seem to look to the KJV as an authoritative source. Do you know about the translation errors, eg:

The heart is deceitful[עקב] above all things, and desperately wicked[אנש]: who can know it?
Jeremiah 17:9

עקב = undulating (hilly)

אנש = sociable (men/people)

The scripture about the heart isn't saying everyone's heart is deceitful; it is about the human heart can be the most deceitful of anything.

Read the scriptures that come after that so you might have better understainding.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Did Jesus call EVERY follower to . . .

Thanks for conceding the point I was going to get to..

But that has very little to do with what I was responding to you saying to RD.

Here, let me remind you, this is what I was responding to.

And ONE of those TWO mentions is quoting the Lord Jesus Christ speaking exclusively to the twelve apostles that will sit on twelve thrones judging the twelve tribes of ISRAEL.

I would be happy to obey something Jesus said even if no one else said it.

So, Jesus said to "sell all you have." You said you would be happy to follow something Jesus said, even if no one else said it. No one else did say "sell all you have" Therefore, REGARDLESS of who it was intended for, because you did not clarify such, you should be happy to obey Jesus in selling all you have.

Hypocrite.

But moving on from that, by then making the argument, "Jesus didn't tell EVERYONE to sell all they have, just the rich young ruler, you have backed yourself into a corner, because now I am going to ask you something else:

Why could that same principle (which I agree with by the way) not also apply to the rest of what Jesus wrote?

Why do you assume that EVERYTHING Jesus said was for EVERYONE (except for the command to "sell all you have")?

You're a hypocrite if you believe that everything Jesus said was for everyone, and then turn around and say, "Oh, but not the command to 'sell all you have.'"

Here's reality, you hypocrite:

Jesus came for the lost sheep of the House of Israel.

He did not come for the gentiles, and avoided interacting with them as much as possible, and as such, there are in fact only three instances in the gospels where Jesus interacts with a gentile.

Jesus came to form a New Covenant with ISRAEL, as described in Jeremiah. It was NOT intended for those outside the House of Israel.

After Jesus rose from the dead, there was a period of about a year where the 12 were bringing converts (Jews who were unbelieving who then believed, and even Gentiles who became proselyte Jews, but Jews nonetheless), but because of Israel's unbelief as a whole, things were going downhill, and the final nail in the coffin, so to speak, was when Stephen was martyred by the legalist council, who knew that it was against the Mosaic Law to stone someone inside the city gates, but didn't consider that they were murdering him. However, it wasn't until the conversion of Saul (Paul) that God cut off Unbelieving Israel (as He said He would if they did not repent, and turned his attention to the Gentiles, putting His plan for His people on hold. He grafted in the Gentiles, and instead of forming a covenant with them as per Genesis 17, He instead gave them the option to form a PERSONAL (rather than national as with Israel) relationship with Him, simply by believing in Him. No works, no law, simply believe in Him.

3 ...“Ananias, how is it that Satan has filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and withhold some of the proceeds from the land? 4[B][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/3306.htm"][COLOR=#000000]DID IT NOT BELONG[/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/4771.htm"][COLOR=#000000]TO YOU[/COLOR][/URL][/B][U][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/3306.htm"][COLOR=#000000] before it was sold? [/COLOR][/URL][/U][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/2532.htm"][COLOR=#000000]And [/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/4097.htm"][COLOR=#000000]after it was sold, [/COLOR][/URL][B][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/5225.htm"][COLOR=#000000]WAS IT NOT[/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/1722.htm"][COLOR=#000000] AT [/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/4674.htm"][COLOR=#000000]YOUR[/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/1849.htm"][COLOR=#000000] DISPOSAL? [/COLOR][/URL][/B][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/5101.htm"][COLOR=#000000]How[/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/5087.htm"][COLOR=#000000] could you conceive [/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/3778.htm"][COLOR=#000000]such [/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/4229.htm"][COLOR=#000000]a deed [/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/1722.htm"][COLOR=#000000]in [/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/4771.htm"][COLOR=#000000]your[/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/2588.htm"][COLOR=#000000] heart?[/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/5574.htm"][COLOR=#000000]You have not lied [/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/444.htm"][COLOR=#000000]to men,[/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/235.htm"][COLOR=#000000]but[/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/2316.htm"][COLOR=#000000] to God!”[/COLOR][/URL]
(Acts 5:3-4)

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…16 Do you not know that when you OFFER YOURSELVES as obedient slaves, you are slaves to the ONE you OBEY, whether you are slaves to sin leading to death, or to OBEDIENCE leading to RIGHTEOUSNESS? 17 [URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/1161.htm"][COLOR=#000000]But[/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/5485.htm"][COLOR=#000000] thanks be [/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/2316.htm"][COLOR=#000000]to God[/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/3754.htm"][COLOR=#000000] that,[/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/1510.htm"][COLOR=#000000]though you once were[/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/1401.htm"][COLOR=#000000] slaves [/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/266.htm"][COLOR=#000000]to sin,[/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/5219.htm"][COLOR=#000000]you wholeheartedly OBEYED [/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/5179.htm"][COLOR=#000000]the form [/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/1322.htm"][COLOR=#000000]of teaching[/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/1519.htm"][COLOR=#000000] to[/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/3739.htm"][COLOR=#000000] which[/COLOR][/URL][URL="https://biblehub.com/greek/3860.htm"][COLOR=#000000] you were committed[/COLOR].[/URL]18 You HAVE BEEN SET FREE from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.…
(Romans 6:16-18)

I'm not sure if you realize it, but that is nearly impossible to read.

Are you copying and pasting from somewhere else? If so, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE use "paste as plain text" when doing so. That is nearly impossible to read in the email I get as a notification that someone has responded to me, and in the reply editor on this site, because the formatting gets converted into BBCode tags.

If you don't know how to do this (either on computer or on the mobile site) please let me know, and I'll tell you how.

Moving on, I moved the portion of your post in the middle of the above to here so that I could separate it from the formatting mess above.

Even in modern times, does not God call SOME people to give up their possessions or surrender their lifestyle in order to go live a poor country for the sake of the Gospel?

Not actively, no. If someone wants to, and they ask God for guidance, then that's one thing.

Does God not have the right to call SOME to various sacrifices according to His call on their life, or must He call EVERYONE to the exactly the same purpose?

Again, thank you for making my argument for me.

God did not tell everyone to keep the law. In fact, it was only one nation that He told to keep the law, and people like yourself, however good their intentions, have perverted what was said to put everyone under the law, placing an unnecessary burden on believers.

What He DOES demand

All God demands is that those who have put their faith in Him love Him.

is that we believe in Him

This is where you should have stopped in your sentence.

enough to give up the central control of our lives to Him and this is not only true of what Jesus and the Twelve preached. Paul also agreed that faith and an obedient response to God's will are inseparable.

Yes, AFTER one is saved, and NOT to obtain salvation, nor to stay saved, but obedience is the RESULT of loving God.

But working to obtain salvation is like trying to pull Jesus off the Cross and climbing up there yourself.

 

[JudgeRightly]

You did not answer my questions.

Did Noah belong to God? How about Enoch? How about Abel?

What evidence do you have that supports your claim that "a person cannot belong to God unless it is a covenant?"

Adam and Eve had a covenant with God, but the word 'covenant' wasn't said.

Your evidence for this baseless claim?

When they broke the covenant God had with them,

What covenant?

they and their descendants were expected to do right.

Were they not expected to do right to begin with?

By the time of Noah, the people were bad,

Why was that? Do you know?

and God made a Covenant with Noah and his descendants, and Enoch is a descendant of Noah.

What?

I'm hoping you just misspoke here, and that you're not another person (like NWL) who doesn't know the difference between descendant and ancestor...

Also, what covenant was made and with whom?

 

[God's Truth]

You did not answer my questions.





Your evidence for this baseless claim?



What covenant?



Were they not expected to do right to begin with?



Why was that? Do you know?

God told Adam and Eve what to do and what would happen if they didn't.

What?

I'm hoping you just misspoke here, and that you're not another person (like NWL) who doesn't know the difference between descendant and ancestor...

Also, what covenant was made and with whom?

God’s Covenant With Noah


9 Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. ² The fear and dread of you will fall on all the beasts of the earth, and on all the birds in the sky, on every creature that moves along the ground, and on all the fish in the sea; they are given into your hands. ³ Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.

⁴ “But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it. ⁵ And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from each human being, too, I will demand an accounting for the life of another human being.

⁶ “Whoever sheds human blood,
by humans shall their blood be shed;
for in the image of God
has God made mankind.

⁷ As for you, be fruitful and increase in number; multiply on the earth and increase upon it.”

⁸ Then God said to Noah and to his sons with him: ⁹ “I now establish my covenant with you and with your descendants after you ¹⁰ and with every living creature that was with you—the birds, the livestock and all the wild animals, all those that came out of the ark with you—every living creature on earth. ¹¹ I establish my covenant with you: Never again will all life be destroyed by the waters of a flood; never again will there be a flood to destroy the earth.”

¹² And God said, “This is the sign of the covenant I am making between me and you and every living creature with you, a covenant for all generations to come: ¹³ I have set my rainbow in the clouds, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and the earth. ¹⁴ Whenever I bring clouds over the earth and the rainbow appears in the clouds, ¹⁵ I will remember my covenant between me and you and all living creatures of every kind. Never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all life. ¹⁶ Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and all living creatures of every kind on the earth.”

¹⁷ So God said to Noah, “This is the sign of the covenant I have established between me and all life on the earth.”

 

[Shasta]

Jesus saying that TWELVE apostles will sit on TWELVE thrones judging the TWELVE tribes of ISRAEL is completely clear and does not need any clarification.

NOWHERE does Paul tell a single gentile that they are under the new covenant. Not even ONE single time.

When Paul speaks of the "cup of blessing", he only mentions the blood and no covenant.

1Co 10:16 KJV The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?​

As I said the BLOOD covers Jew and gentiles alike. The body of Christ is NOT under any covenant.

You are somehow convinced that the blood requires a covenant, it does NOT.

1Co 10:16 The cup of blessing which we bless, IS it not the communion of the BLOOD of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the BODY of Christ?[/COLOR]

In this very scripture Paul says "the CUP we bless (present tense verb: they drank it as a habit or practice). Where did Christians get this practice FROM. Jesus Himself introduced it on the night before His crucifixion.

26 While they were eating, Jesus took bread, spoke a blessing and broke it, and gave it to the disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is My body.” 27 Then He took the cup, gave thanks and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28 This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for MANY for the forgiveness of sins.…
(Matthew 26:26-27)

How are men FORGIVEN OF SIN? It can only happen through the CROSS where Jesus allowed His body to be broken and His blood to be poured out for us. That is the only way anyone can be forgiven of their sins. Jesus was Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. He did not die so that the Twelve could had a private dinner party in the Coming World but to save multitudes who would believe in Him. The disciples will sit on twelve thrones. That promise was made to them. The bread and cup covered not specific individual rewards but general soteriological promises that anyone who believed could be a part of if they believed in Jesus.
The fact that His sacrifice would institute a new covenant through the cross should not be controversial. Jesus SAID that the blood He would soon pour out on the cross (represented by the communion cup He had them drink of) was the BLOOD OF THE COVENANT. In your belief system we are expected to pretend that it Jesus did not say this. However, the fact that the Church (Jew and Gentile) all practiced of communion was a reiteration of this truth.
You act as if entering into a covenant is bondage. The Covenant of the Law was bondage because we could not follow it. The New Covenant is more like a marriage in which love draws two people willingly into a lifelong bond symbolized by the wedding ring.

 

[Right Divider]

1Co 10:16 The cup of blessing which we bless, IS it not the communion of the BLOOD of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the BODY of Christ?[/COLOR]

In this very scripture Paul says "the CUP we bless (present tense verb: they drank it as a habit or practice). Where did Christians get this practice FROM. Jesus Himself introduced it on the night before His crucifixion.

Yes, Jesus Himself introduced it on the night before His crucifixion to the TWELVE apostles. They represent ISRAEL. The new covenant is between the SAME two parties as the old covenant (God and ISRAEL), just like Jeremiah says and Hebrews reaffirms.

 

[Theo102]

It was God's plan.

Best not be innocent then, or you might suffer the same fate /sarc.

 

[God's Truth]

Best not be innocent then, or you might suffer the same fate /sarc.

All are going to die; and, there is a chance that all who are Christian could suffer for being one.

 

[Theo102]

All are going to die; and, there is a chance that all who are Christian could suffer for being one.

And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Matthew 19:16-17

 

[Shasta]

Jesus saying that TWELVE apostles will sit on TWELVE thrones judging the TWELVE tribes of ISRAEL is completely clear and does not need any clarification.

NOWHERE does Paul tell a single gentile that they are under the new covenant. Not even ONE single time.

When Paul speaks of the "cup of blessing", he only mentions the blood and no covenant.

1Co 10:16 KJV The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?​

As I said the BLOOD covers Jew and gentiles alike. The body of Christ is NOT under any covenant.

You are somehow convinced that the blood requires a covenant, it does NOT.

I am convinced because that is exactly what Jesus and Paul taught.

26 Now as they were eating, Jesus, having taken bread and having blessed it, broke it, and having given it to the disciples, He said, “Take, eat; this is My body.”27 And having taken the cup and having given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, “Drink of it, all of you. 28 For this is My blood of the covenant, being poured out for MANY, for forgiveness of sins. 29 And I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now until that the day when I drink it anew with you in the kingdom of My Father.” 30 And having sung a hymn, they went out to the Mount of Olives.
(Matthew 26:26-30)

…19 And He took the bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body, given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 20In the same way,aftersupperHe took thecup,saying,“Thiscup isthe NEW COVENANTinMyblood,whichis poured outforyou..…
(Luke 22:20)

23 For I received from the Lord that which also I delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which He was betrayed, took bread, 24 and having given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 25 Likewise also the cup after having supped, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you might drink it, in remembrance of Me.” 26 For as often as you may eat this bread and may drink the cup, YOU PROCLAIM THE LORD’S DEATH until He should come.
(1 Corinthians 11:24)

1. Jesus said the broken bread was His BODY which was TORN when He was scourged and crucified the following day
2. The fact that they were told to EAT it signified that they would be participants and beneficiaries in what He had accomplished by His sacrifice
3. When He POURED out the wine Jesus said “this cup is the new covenant in My blood (Matthew 26:28, Luke 22:20, 1 Corinthians 11:24)
4. This shows conclusively that the "new covenant" shows is more than just a contractural agreement. It was a BLOOD COVENANT.
5. Jesus established His New Covenant ON THE CROSS on the following day
6. The sacrificial offering of Christ would bring about the FORGIVENESS OF SIN (Matthew 26:28, Isaiah 53:4-6)
7. The tradition of partaking of the CUP OF THE NEW COVENANT was passed on by Paul (along with the actual words spoken on that night) to the Church at Corinth which was a congregation of saved Jews and Gentiles
8. Both Jews and Gentiles are connected through this common covenant:Is not the cup of blessing which we bless a sharing in the blood of Christ? Is not the bread which we break a sharing in the body of Christ? (1 Corinthians 10:16-17)
9. Poured out for MANY The Greek word "many" is πολλοί, which means: many, a large part of mankind hardly a word that would be used to describe 12 individuals.https://biblehub.com/greek/4183.htm
10. The Covenant Supper was practiced throughout the whole Church beginning with Jesus and continuing until the present day
11. The communion wine represents the blood of Jesus shed on the cross when He became the sacrificial lamb. Only the blood of Christ can take away sin which is why innumerable multitudes will praise Him for in the Book of Revelation. What I do not understand is how anyone could miss this very simple yet essential piece of theology. Every time Paul mentions the cross he is referring to the cross he was referring to the sacrificial death of Christ. Our COVENANT connection with Him is a result of that event and we celebrate it every time we take the cup.
12. Paul understood the centrality of the cross both in our initial salvation and in our subsequent sanctification The idea that ALL believers are not partakers of the benefits of the cross runs counter to this message.
13. Anyone who denies that the eucharist is not THE CUP OF NEW COVENANT is denying what both Paul and Jesus have stated very clearly

 

[Right Divider]

I am convinced because that is exactly what Jesus and Paul taught.

26 Now as they were eating, Jesus, having taken bread and having blessed it, broke it, and having given it to the disciples, He said, “Take, eat; this is My body.”27 And having taken the cup and having given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, “Drink of it, all of you. 28 For this is My blood of the covenant, being poured out for MANY, for forgiveness of sins. 29 And I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now until that the day when I drink it anew with you in the kingdom of My Father.” 30 And having sung a hymn, they went out to the Mount of Olives.
(Matthew 26:26-30)

…19 And He took the bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body, given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 20In the same way,aftersupperHe took thecup,saying,“Thiscup isthe NEW COVENANTinMyblood,whichis poured outforyou..…
(Luke 22:20)

23 For I received from the Lord that which also I delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which He was betrayed, took bread, 24 and having given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 25 Likewise also the cup after having supped, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you might drink it, in remembrance of Me.” 26 For as often as you may eat this bread and may drink the cup, YOU PROCLAIM THE LORD’S DEATH until He should come.
(1 Corinthians 11:24)

1. Jesus said the broken bread was His BODY which was TORN when He was scourged and crucified the following day
2. The fact that they were told to EAT it signified that they would be participants and beneficiaries in what He had accomplished by His sacrifice
3. When He POURED out the wine Jesus said “this cup is the new covenant in My blood (Matthew 26:28, Luke 22:20, 1 Corinthians 11:24)
4. This shows conclusively that the "new covenant" shows is more than just a contractural agreement. It was a BLOOD COVENANT.
5. Jesus established His New Covenant ON THE CROSS on the following day
6. The sacrificial offering of Christ would bring about the FORGIVENESS OF SIN (Matthew 26:28, Isaiah 53:4-6)
7. The tradition of partaking of the CUP OF THE NEW COVENANT was passed on by Paul (along with the actual words spoken on that night) to the Church at Corinth which was a congregation of saved Jews and Gentiles
8. Both Jews and Gentiles are connected through this common covenant:Is not the cup of blessing which we bless a sharing in the blood of Christ? Is not the bread which we break a sharing in the body of Christ? (1 Corinthians 10:16-17)
9. Poured out for MANY The Greek word "many" is πολλοί, which means: many, a large part of mankind hardly a word that would be used to describe 12 individuals.https://biblehub.com/greek/4183.htm
10. The Covenant Supper was practiced throughout the whole Church beginning with Jesus and continuing until the present day
11. The communion wine represents the blood of Jesus shed on the cross when He became the sacrificial lamb. Only the blood of Christ can take away sin which is why innumerable multitudes will praise Him for in the Book of Revelation. What I do not understand is how anyone could miss this very simple yet essential piece of theology. Every time Paul mentions the cross he is referring to the cross he was referring to the sacrificial death of Christ. Our COVENANT connection with Him is a result of that event and we celebrate it every time we take the cup.
12. Paul understood the centrality of the cross both in our initial salvation and in our subsequent sanctification The idea that ALL believers are not partakers of the benefits of the cross runs counter to this message.
13. Anyone who denies that the eucharist is not THE CUP OF NEW COVENANT is denying what both Paul and Jesus have stated very clearly

Paul never tells any gentiles that they are or need to be under a covenant.

God does say that He will make a new covenant with Israel (Jeremiah, Hebrews).

There is no new covenant for the body of Christ. There is no need for a covenant to be saved by grace through faith.

 

[God's Truth]

Paul never tells any gentiles that they are or need to be under a covenant.

God does say that He will make a new covenant with Israel (Jeremiah, Hebrews).

There is no new covenant for the body of Christ. There is no need for a covenant to be saved by grace through faith.

Jesus SAYS his BODY AND BLOOD ARE THE COVENANT.

 

[DougE]

Jesus SAYS his BODY AND BLOOD ARE THE COVENANT.

The new testament is what he said not covenant Matthew 26:28 unless you are using one of the unreliable translations out there