Sure. It has been discussed before on his show. If you want to discuss it just call into the show. But wait until next month. Bob will not be hosting the show this month. He's busy working on another project.
This is good news. So BEL no longer avoids doctrinal discussions on the show? I recall in the past, Bob telling callers that he does not discuss doctrine on the show. And what would you say the percentage of time is that is currently spent in Body doctrine compared to that of other things?
Acts 25:11 - Paul appeals to Caesar.
Acts 23:11 KJV And the night following the Lord stood by him, and said, Be of good cheer, Paul: for as thou hast testified of me in Jerusalem,
so must thou bear witness also at Rome.
He didn't just preach the gospel to Festus and let the chips fall where they may.
Paul was not supposed to preach to Festus. 2 Corinthians 12:6 KJV For though I would desire to glory, I shall not be a fool; for
I will say the truth: but now I forbear, lest any man should think of me above that which he seeth me to be, or that he heareth of me. So even though Paul spilled the beans that he was
going to be sent far hence to the cursed Gentiles in Acts 22:21 KJV And he said unto me, Depart: for I will send thee far hence unto the Gentiles. And that is what stirred up all the trouble for him, Acts 22:22 KJV And they gave him audience unto this word, and then lifted up their voices, and said, Away with such a fellow from the earth: for it is not fit that he should live. We don’t see until the close of Acts, when the people’s ears are waxed gross that Paul goes to the alien Gentile, like you and me! If you go back, you can see that Paul didn’t tell Agrippa anything about “I will send thee far hence to the Gentiles”, but that of “resurrection” in Acts 26. Fascinating details told and withheld so that Paul could get to Rome!
One must see the distinctions of the Gentiles that were preached to at the time Paul was going to the Jew first and also to the Greek: Romans 1:16 KJV (drawing in that remnant according to the election of Grace- see Romans 11) and that of the “Gentiles” of Acts 22:21 KJV. While all Greeks were Gentiles, not all Gentiles were Greeks! Because you have been told that you are the “remnant”, those specific Gentiles of Romans 11(no way that’s you or I BTW) and that like the Galatians, you have set yourself up to think that the law was YOUR tutor to bring you to Christ and therefore you work feverishly holding others under the law as you said here:
The gospel of course but he also wants people to stop hearing and believing the law which was our tutor to bring us to Christ (Gal. 3:24).
(”the gospel of course” and yet BEL spends little to no time discussing the gospel of Christ, the power of God unto salvation, with a never dying world. It’s puzzling and sad.) While it was true of Paul and these Galatians, that the law was THEIR tutor to bring them to Christ, it is not true of you and me. We have NEVER been under the Law of Moses or in the covenants of promise! We were of those cursed, idol worshipping Gentiles of time past, the ones Paul became a prisoner for! Like that of the Ephesians 3:1 KJV For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,
Ephesians 2:11 KJV Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. 18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
1 Tim. 1:8-11 - "But we know that the law [is] good if one uses it lawfully, knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for [the] lawless and insubordinate, for [the] ungodly and for sinners, for [the] unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God which was committed to my trust."
Romans 5:12-13 KJV Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 2 Corinthians 5:14 KJV For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: 2 Corinthians 5:15 KJV And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.2 Corinthians 5:16 KJV
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. 2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV To wit, that
God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
Now, I answered your questions with verses. It's now your turn to answer my questions which you have so far avoided. I asked you 6 questions which you dodged.
I haven’t dodged your questions. They are ALL a distraction from the fact that Paul does not instruct us to be political activists wrestling with flesh and blood. It is not the vocation of the Body of Christ, the one hope of our calling. The things that are going on in the world are distractions whether they tug on my heart strings or not, no matter how I “feel” about them.
I have no problem answering you questions here, but you have a huge problem. You cannot show in Romans-Philemon where Paul instructed the Body of Christ to change laws or become political activists.
1 - So you think the few Christians in Germany who broke the law by hiding Jews were acting unbiblically?
They did what they thought they should do. What does that have to do with the vocation of the Body of Christ and your continual condemnation for not fighting your cause as if it is the calling of the Body of Christ??
2 - You think the Christians in America who broke southern law by partaking in the underground railroad to free black slaves were acting unbiblically?
They did what they thought they should do at the time. What does this have to do with the vocation of the Body of Christ and your continual accusations against those who are following the sound doctrine of the apostle Paul TO us?
3 - You think all Christian congressmen who are trying to pass godly legislation should resign because they are wrestling "against flesh and blood" unbiblically?
They can do what they like. What does this have to do with the vocation of the Body of Christ?
4 - Do you vote? Or do you just pray that godly leaders will be elected.
It’s none of your business if I vote or not, but no. I do not involve myself in the politics of this earth. Changing laws is not our vocation in the Body of Christ and therefore is not my focus.
5 - If you do vote, doesn't that mean you are unbiblically wrestling against flesh and blood? Where do you draw the line?
N/A
The line was drawn 2000 years ago when the Lord Jesus Christ died for me, was buried and rose again for my justification as revealed to Paul by the risen glorified Lord Jesus Christ to us.
6 - In Romans Paul tells us the governing authority is God's minister who bears not the sword in vain. God's ministers are therefore supposed to advocate the death penalty for murder.
I agree with Romans 13.
A murderer should be tried and sentenced by the governing authorities. I am not God’s minister bearing a sword, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil, but an ambassador for Christ using the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. The only offensive tool in the arsenal of the whole armor of God that I am instructed to use is the word of God and I use it rightly divided.
While I'm at it, here's another one...
7 - All the American Christians who fought in World War 2 so that you could preach the gospel in freedom - Did they unbiblically wrestle against flesh and blood for your benefit?
They did what they had to do at the time. What does this have to do with the vocation of the Body of Christ?
So working for laws to recriminalize adultery is Christian work.
If so, then you should have no problem showing where Paul instructed the Body of Christ to become entangled in the affairs of this life, focus on the things of this earth and become a political machine. And how much time should I dedicate to it?
Besides, if adultery was illegal do you have any idea how many fewer murders would happen in this country? How many fewer suicides? How many fewer assaults? How many fewer children growing up with only 1 parent? Do you even care? Or are you like the priest and the Levite in Luke 10 who walked by the assaulted man because it wasn't "ministry" work? (BTW, that's question #8. Please answer all 8)
The implication that I don’t care is yet another attempt by you (and it’s not working) to distract from the fact that you have NOTHING from Paul that INSTRUCTS US to be political activists which you all spend what appears to be the greatest amount of your time and effort on (going by the list of shows and content on BEL), which is putting your cause over that of the vocation by which you’re called. Is it not?
Ephesians 4:1-6 KJV I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye
walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, 2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; 3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body, and one Spirit,
even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
I try to lead into the gospel by saying something like, "Sir, you're actually very lucky. Most people don't get an opportunity to see how sinful they are so clearly. Here you are publicly defending the murder of innocent babies. Can you name even one thing more vile? This is why God cannot allow someone like you into Heaven because the wages of sin is death, BUT..."
And then I go into the gospel.
I’m having a hard time believing this. Sorry, just being honest. Is this where I’m supposed to ignore that you yell and call names to these people, many times through a megaphone? It took me asking you how one is saved more than once for you to answer how one is saved and when you did; you cut and pasted a response I gave to you. So pardon me if I don’t believe that you present “the gospel”. If this is something you share with the lost nearly everyday, surely you have it down, right on the tip of your tongue? What do you tell people when you are yelling in front of Planned Parenthood? What do you tell them when you are yelling in front of their homes? What is your focus on? Do you share the gospel of the grace of God to the people standing next to you who are lost in the religious denominational system, that are not trusting in the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ? Do you discuss rightly dividing the word of truth at all out on the protests or is that put on the back burner because you fight the same cause?
Be honest, Jefferson. I have been honest with you.
Your response of… “The wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23 KJV) and Christ took the payoff! He died in our stead! (Romans 4:25 KJV , 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV , 2 Corinthians 5:21 KJV ). I deserved death and I received life by believing on the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ. While we were enemies: Romans 5:10 KJV For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. Christ died for the ungodly. Romans 5:6 KJV For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly, while we were yet sinners: Romans 5:8 KJV But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”…was accurate.
Again: I asked you how is one saved, what is the knowledge of the truth and how do I get it. You gave me a link to an SOF, but since you brought it in here: A revised Nicene Creed with no scripture references, no gospel of Christ, no distinction between that of Israel and the Body of Christ; with different gospels, marching orders, destinations. Nothing. Just what was that supposed to show me?
To quote your guest host (one of many quotes from the show that went unaddressed by you): GJ
“What could be more important than the sanctity of human life? I don’t think there’s anything more important that they should be talking about on any given Sunday!”
How about, that unbelievers are dying everyday and will suffer eternal judgment without believing in what Christ has already accomplished on the cross in their stead. They’ll die an eternal death/separation from God even though His blood has been shed/atonement has already been provided for ALL, dying with their sins already forgiven by the faith of Christ and His work on the cross yet they did not believe on Him for salvation.
2 Corinthians 4:3-4 KJV But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Romans 10:14 KJV How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
2 Timothy 4:2 KJV Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
And this I pray: Philippians 1:9-10 KJV And this I pray,
that your love may abound yet more and more
in knowledge and in all judgment; 10 That
ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ.
