When did the gospel go to the Gentiles?

Clete

Truth Smacker
Silver Subscriber
I only learned this in the last 10 years. One acceptable alternative is he said he would fulfill the law. And at the cross he did. Some say that is what he declared. He finished it. I think the "Paid in full" and "debt is forgiven" is correct. But only because of what Paul taught us with his gospel.
It's all correct!

I'm not sure why there is any need to interpret something Jesus said through Paul’s gospel. The word tetelestai wasn’t invented by Jesus nor was His use of the word ever discussed by Paul. It was a common Greek word used across several domains of life. Those who heard him say it and early readers of the gospels already knew what it meant. They didn't have to wait until Paul showed up to explain it. The deeply complex cultural meaning of the word (e.g. the merchant’s ledger, the judge’s ruling, the priest’s ritual, the soldier’s mission, etc) all help show that the work He was sent to do had reached its goal and that is what Jesus was declaring. Paul later explains that there are applications for Gentiles under grace, but he doesn’t redefine the word.
 

Nick M

Reconciled by the Cross
LIFETIME MEMBER
Hall of Fame
any need to interpret something Jesus said through Paul’s gospel
Only because it is not in the other New Testament letters. It is the main theme of his, and barely gets a mention elsewhere. That is all I mean.
 

Insight me

Member
Temp Banned
.✝ ✝ ✝
`•.¸¸.•´´¯`••._.•._.••`¯´´•.¸¸.•` dearest " Clete


i sincerely though✝ that there was some genuine desire within you to take just a single hones step and move outward beyond a One Step theology that truly is deepening even as you stand and refuse to move even just a little to complete a next step.

In a previous conversation, here,
you have stric✞ly denounced the idea that God would have provided salvation and blessing and forgiveness and honor and respect and even a COVENANT to anyone outside of the great Moses encampment zone

i fear that you` dearest " Clete "
have truly buried yourself into a deep world of sensationalism and puffery that simply can no longer avoid the facts ... Could you be tunnel visioning and focusing in upon the " " Pentecostal " sensational type miracles, signs, wonders and sensations of the times of Moses and ...............

.......- you forget - that the law of Moses did not exist for nearly 2,500 years and yet we see in the Scriptures men calling on the name of the Lord, as gentiles


Gen 4:5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
Gen 4:6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
Gen 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted

we see
Gen 4:4 Abel, brought a sacrifice And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:
Gen 4:26 To Seth,.... born a son;..... Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.
Gen 9:8 And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying, :9 And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;

Gen 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons,

Abraham, Issaac and Jacob and their generations up until Moses are seen as continuing to walk in the path of salvation, redemption, acceptance, blessing and approval that God had provided unto Cain and Abel from thousands of years ago..... . . . . . ➣➣➣➣➣-

we all notice a half eaten pentecostal - ism fruit that you have cast down upon the ground only to move on to swallow a whole loaf of bread before even chewing

" Lethargic Lurch " One Step Theology - is a system of recoil that causes ones
Countenance to fall - as you deeply forge✞ -

you forge¸.•` dearest " Clete
-that just because your personal favored or choicest pentecostal signs, miracles and wonders and Pentecostalism twerks were not always with Gentiles and people before Moses, this does not mean that God had not established a complete system of Sacrifice, of Covenant and of respect, of forgiveness, and of acceptance


we see that even unto Cain - Cain who failed to offer his sacrifice as God had commanded and desired as a sacrifice ..


Gen 4:5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
:6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted.

God has always provided a way for all man to be accepted - even Cain... As Abel lay dead and his blood sank into the ground THE BLOOD OF ABEL CRIED OUT TO GOD AND GOD HEARD EVEN WITHOUT MOSES THERE TO SHAKE AND RATTLE YOUR FAVORITE GOURD

i ask you ¸.•` dearest " Clete - when God swore to Noah to establish a Covenant unto his seed which pentecostal works would work for you to allow you to comprehend that this means exactly what it says ?
 
Last edited:

Clete

Truth Smacker
Silver Subscriber
.✝ ✝ ✝
`•.¸¸.•´´¯`••._.•._.••`¯´´•.¸¸.•` dearest " Clete


i sincerely though✝ that there was some genuine desire within you to take just a single hones step and move outward beyond a One Step theology that truly is deepening even as you stand and refuse to move even just a little to complete a next step.

In a previous conversation, here,
you have stric✞ly denounced the idea that God would have provided salvation and blessing and forgiveness and honor and respect and even a COVENANT to anyone outside of the great Moses encampment zone

i fear that you` dearest " Clete "
have truly buried yourself into a deep world of sensationalism and puffery that simply can no longer avoid the facts ... Could you be tunnel visioning and focusing in upon the " " Pentecostal " sensational type miracles, signs, wonders and sensations of the times of Moses and ...............

.......- you forget - that the law of Moses did not exist for nearly 2,500 years and yet we see in the Scriptures men calling on the name of the Lord, as gentiles


Gen 4:5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
Gen 4:6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
Gen 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted

we see
Gen 4:4 Abel, brought a sacrifice And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:
Gen 4:26 To Seth,.... born a son;..... Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.
Gen 9:8 And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying, :9 And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;

Gen 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons,

Abraham, Issaac and Jacob and their generations up until Moses are seen as continuing to walk in the path of salvation, redemption, acceptance, blessing and approval that God had provided unto Cain and Abel from thousands of years ago..... . . . . . ➣➣➣➣➣-

we all notice a half eaten pentecostal - ism fruit that you have cast down upon the ground only to move on to swallow a whole loaf of bread before even chewing

" Lethargic Lurch " One Step Theology - is a system of recoil that causes ones
Countenance to fall - as you deeply forge✞ -

you forge¸.•` dearest " Clete
-that just because your personal favored or choicest pentecostal signs, miracles and wonders and Pentecostalism twerks were not always with Gentiles and people before Moses, this does not mean that God had not established a complete system of Sacrifice, of Covenant and of respect, of forgiveness, and of acceptance


we see that even unto Cain - Cain who failed to offer his sacrifice as God had commanded and desired as a sacrifice ..


Gen 4:5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
:6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted.

God has always provided a way for all man to be accepted - even Cain... As Abel lay dead and his blood sank into the ground THE BLOOD OF ABEL CRIED OUT TO GOD AND GOD HEARD EVEN WITHOUT MOSES THERE TO SHAKE AND RATTLE YOUR FAVORITE GOURD


i ask you ¸.•` dearest " Clete - when God swore to Noah to establish a Covenant unto his seed which pentecostal works would work for you to allow you to comprehend that this means exactly what it says ?
Didn't read it.

When you post like a regular human being, we can discuss nearly anything you want. Not before then.
 
Top