What the McCain Eulogies Tell Us About the Media and the Regime

[Town Heretic]

Since Eugene Bull Conner was a liberal/democrat/leftist, you again prove my point.

He was a democrat when most people in Alabama were democrats. What particular political ideas can you document him espousing that would support the idea of him being a leftist/liberal?

The Democrats/left/liberals were racially unjust because they tended to believe that some races were superior to others.

What's actually true is that Southern democrats, during the time of the Civil Rights Movement were almost if not entirely conservative, a thing true in the South generationally. When the Democratic Party abandoned segregation as a political instrument they began to lose the South to the Republican Party, which became more and more an institution that entrenched on social issues.

You contend that the politics of republicans/rightist/conservatives became a more amicable group for people that believed in intersectionalty because of some reason.

Rather, what I've noted and what remains objectively, demonstrably, observably true remains, supra. Intersectionality is your wheelhouse. You should do a better job of breaking it into particulars and applying it. As a mantra it isn't much.

I tend to speak to race from a sociological perspective using the ethnocentric principle as an illustration of its roots. The ethnocentric principle, distilled, is a continuum of response to the other. The more like us and familiar a thing the more we tend to trust and like it. The more other/different and unfamiliar a thing the less we trust it and the more we will tend to dislike it.

A professor of mine teaching a course in social anthropology put it like this: "Say you're driving through a pleasant countryside in a place far from home. At some point, toward afternoon, your car breaks down, and you realize to your embarrassment that you've forgotten your phone. Fortunately, you see a sign indicating there's a community just ahead, Pleasant Acres. You walk toward the town, eventually entering into the outskirts. The houses along the street you approach are uniformly pleasing to the eye and well cared for. The two nearest you both have men working in their gardens. They are dressed about the same, their houses identical with both yards well kept. One of the men is white and one black. Who do you approach to use the phone?"

The likeliest answer is that you will approach the person most like you in the ways you can ascertain from that distinance. Some won't, but most will. It's not about being a racist, but about a natural tendency that at its best gives us the Boy Scouts and the Rotary and at its worst the Klan.

Understanding that principle people will naturally gravitate toward a thing that resembles them and their interests most. That's why the South moved to the Republican Party as the Democratic Party became more and more closely affiliated with minority interests. That exodus included both those simply finding a closer expression of political identity, and those who moved for less laudable reasons.

And so the South that turned hoses on blacks and legalized their political and social disenfranchisement became the backbone of the next resurgence of the Republican Party. Doesn't mean the party is the party of racism, where most people are concerned (most people still being white in this country) only that most of the racists will be found there.

Perhaps that reason is civil rights legislation (that generally republicans supported and generally democrats fought), perhaps it was dog whistles by Nixon (that no one can identify), or because you say so (which is what you've offered so far).

It's not about what I say but about what anyone with a PC can discover if they google Southern political affiliations before and after the Civil Rights Movement.

 

[Zeke]

The Keating Five refers to a corruption scandal of 1989. At the time, five important United States Senators were accused of corruption related to the Savings and Loan crisis in 1989. This political scandal came to represent all that Americans found (and still today find) wrong with their nationally elected congressional representatives. The five senators implicated as part of this Keating Five Scandal were California Democrat Alan Cranston, Arizona Democrat Dennis DeConcini, Ohio Democrat and former astronaut John Glenn, Arizona Republican John McCain, and Michigan Democrat Donald W. Riegle, Jr.

The five Senators endured serious accusations of having unethically involved themselves on the material behalf of banker Charles H. Keating, Jr. who was then Chairman of the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association in 1987. This bank became the subject of a more than routine regulatory investigation run by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board, the FHLBB. This government group later backed away from acting against the bank, apparently without sufficient reasoning.

Naturally the investigation revived two years later in 1989 as the Lincoln Savings and Loan institution spectacularly collapsed to the tune of a $3 billion loss to the federal government. An incredible 23,000 plus bondholders of the bank suffered wipeout losses along with countless investors who saw their entire life savings evaporate overnight. What caught the attention of journalists who investigated the mess were the major political donations Mr. Keating had directed to the campaigns of five senators. These questionably generous donations amounted to $1.3 million.

The Senate Ethics Committee began a long-running investigation into pressure which it was alleged the Keating 5 had brought to bear two years earlier on the FHLBB. Three of the five accused Senators, Cranston, DeConcini, and Riegle, were found guilty of unethically interfering with the government investigation of the bank that might have allowed them to wind down the bank before it imploded at a loss of billions of dollars. Of the three, only Senator Cranston received an official reprimand from the Senate. Both Senators John McCain and John Glenn were fully cleared of any charges of wrongdoing by the investigatory committee. Yet the two men still received a minor slap on the risk in being told that they had “exercised poor judgment” in being at all involved.

Each of the Keating Five senators was allowed to serve out their remaining Senate terms. When it was time for reelection, both McCain and Glenn ran again. The two men each held onto their seats. McCain emerged apparently unscathed, as he was able to run for the President of the United States twice, emerging as the official 2008 campaign Republic Party nominee.

The Keating and Lincoln Savings scandal became a symbol of all that was inherently crooked about the financial system and ethics in American society. In the spring of 1992, a playing cards deck had been created, marketed, and sold under the name of the “Savings and Loan Scandal.” On the card faces were Charles Keating, Jr. holding up his hand. For the faces of the puppets on each of his fingers were the portraits of the Keating Five Senators.

Polls were taken which demonstrated that the majority of American found the doings of these five Senators to be only typical of the actions of Congress in general. Even political historian Lewis Gould wrote about it that “the real problem for the Keating Three who were most involved was that they had been caught.”


The term 'Keating Five' is included in the Economics edition of the Financial Dictionary. You can get your copy on amazon in Kindle or Paperback version. See more details here.

 

[Zeke]

John McCain Praises Father’s Whitewashing of Israel’s Attack on the USS LIBERTY!

September 2nd, 2011 | Author: Patriot


John McCain Praises Father’s Whitewashing of Israel’s Attack on the USS LIBERTY!

Praise for The Liberty Incident

“After years of research for this book, Judge A. Jay Cristol (an Israel firster of Jewish descent) has reached a similar conclusion to one my father reached in his June 18, 1967, endorsement of the findings of the court of inquiry. I commend Judge Cristol for his thoroughness and fairness, and I commend this work.”
– SEN. JOHN McCAIN

Ralph Nader calls into question John McCain’s patriotism and loyalty to the United States:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q7yEnMjQ6U

USS Liberty survivors Stan White and Phil Tourney on John McCain and admiral Father’s role in USS Liberty cover-up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_VYNWAqn7o

Captain Ward Boston mentioned John McCain’s admiral Father and his association with ongoing USS Liberty cover-up in following youtube:

Captain Ward Boston’s Testimony Regarding USS Liberty Cover-Up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytHtFh_MPpU

Liberty Cover-Up and John McCain’s Conscience

http://dissidentvoice.org/July2004/Hughes0712.htm

Liberty Survivors Invoke Benghazi, Demand Hearings:

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/06/07/liberty-survivors-invoke-benghazi.html

Following comment shows in comments section at bottom of above article:

WHY McCain doesn’t want to talk: –

There are Two Main reasons why Senator John McCain wants to keep the attack on the USS Liberty buried.

1- McCain’s Father (Admiral John S McCain) was in charge of US Naval Forces in Europe at the time of the attack and Admiral McCain was involved in the COVER-UP, of the attack on the Liberty.

2- In America, huge sums of Money are needed to Win Elections at the National Level. (Congress, President) Wealthy American Jews give huge sums of Cash to Pro-Israeli Congressmen and Congresswomen. Anyone deemed to be “anti-Israel” is cut off from Funding. As a result, it’s very hard to Win an Election at the National Level, unless the candidate is a full time stooge to the powerful US Israeli Lobby. (AIPAC)

John McCain confronted about USS Liberty cover-up & Media Accomplices:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2d0CKXy8HQ&list=PL32A3140D59BF5772&feature=plpp_play_all

John McCain Confronted About USS Liberty Cover-up Memorial Day 2012:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWyjykrLbvU

McCain and Israel’s Bombing of the U.S.S. Liberty:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q7yEnMjQ6U

Liberty Survivors Invoke Benghazi, Demand Hearings (that Israeli first traitor McCain ignores):


http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/06/07/liberty-survivors-invoke-benghazi.html

http://tinyurl.com/mccainconfronted

Additional at following URL:

http://tinyurl.com/mccainussliberty

Romney smiles as John McCain calls patriot a ‘jerk’ for asking him about USS Liberty cover-up!:

http://tinyurl.com/romneypushingworldwar

New USS Liberty documentary (‘The Day Israel Attacked America’):

http://tinyurl.com/DayIsraelAttackedAmerica

http://america-hijacked.com/2014/10/30/the-day-israel-attacked-america/

Six Days of War, 40 Years of Secrecy:

http://www.theage.com.au/news/opini...ears-of-secrecy/2007/05/26/1179601730257.html

Former US Navy JAGC Merlin Staring said USS Liberty attack deliberate


http://www.uss-liberty.com/2010/05/01/statement-of-rear-admiral-merlin-h-staring-jagc-usn-ret/



‘USS Liberty’ veterans demand investigation



http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/viewpoints/articles/0603liberty0603.html



BBC Documentary on the USS Liberty:
“Dead in the Water”

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3319663041501647311

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujoc1DYjuPE

USS Liberty Cover Up – Full Documentary – “The Loss Of Liberty”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZluFfyQ7sAI

Israel’s deadly attack on USS Liberty emerges from the past

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f98jxoUUrzg

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: SURVIVOR OF ISRAELI ATTACK REVEALS SECRETS OF 1967 HIGH SEAS MASSACRE and MCCAIN, BACHMANN CONFRONTED OVER “INCIDENT”

[[Big, big articles by AFP re interviews with Phil Tourney and James Morris]]

http://americanfreepress.net/?p=2309

http://www.uss-liberty.com/2012/01/...k-reveals-secrets-of-1967-high-seas-massacre/

Look what Admiral Thomas Moorer (former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) had to say during an interview!:


“I’ve never seen a President — I don’t care who he is — stand up to them. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. I got to the point where I wasn’t writing anything down. If the American people understood what a grip these people have got on our government, they would RISE UP IN ARMS. Our citizens certainly don’t have any idea what goes on.” – Admiral Thomas H. Moorer, US Navy & Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff during interview on 24 August 1983


Admiral Thomas Moorer Rejects Israel’s Excuse

http://www.ussliberty.org/moorer3.htm


Israeli Attack on U.S. Navy Ship Led to Cover-Up (By Admiral Thomas Moorer)


http://www.wrmea.com/component/cont...i-attack-on-us-navy-ship-led-to-cover-up.html


Admiral Moorer mentioned at following URL as well:


“No American President can stand up to Israel.”


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18192.htm



Scroll down to link for George Washington’s ‘Farewell Address’ (warning US to avoid passionate attachments and entangling alliances for foreign nations like we have with Israel which is taking US down as conveyed via http://tinyurl.com/motivation911 as well) to read at bottom of http://astandforjustice.org

Read via following article by former Republican Congressman Paul Findley why the USS Liberty attack/cover-up still matters even to this day:

The High Cost of Subservience to Israel (by Paul Findley):

http://america-hijacked.com/2011/05/30/the-high-cost-of-subservience-to-israel-by-paul-findley/

Additional at http://tinyurl.com/scottsonfox




McCain, Bachmann Confronted Over USS Liberty ‘Incident’

http://salem-news.com/articles/january192012/politicians-liberty-vt.php

http://www.shoah.org.uk/2012/01/16/mccain-bachmann-confronted-over-incident/



Michele Bachmann Called Out (following referenced in above AFP article):

http://Tinyurl.com/BachmannCalledOut

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PacfTAw1NBU&list=PL912DBB739371FB9E&feature=plpp_play_all

Sailing to the Scene of the Crime: ATTACK ON THE USS LIBERTY (John McCain and admiral Father shown and mentioned in following youtube):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyrJVNcAXxI


Attack on the Liberty:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kymqQJDzmc4

Cindy McCain on the USS LIBERTY COVERUP: “I don’t care about this issue.”

http://tinyurl.com/CindyMcCainUSSLiberty


Listen to the comment by USS Liberty survivor Phil Tourney for Toronto Sun journalist Eric Margolis (via clicking on his picture at http://tinyurl.com/philoncspan) on C-SPAN’s ‘Washington Journal’.

James and John Scott on FOX NEWS on USS Liberty attack (and cover-up) – scroll down to links/articles about Captain Ward Boston and Admiral Thomas Moorer at following URL as both conveyed that USS Liberty attack was indeed deliberate!:

http://america-hijacked.com/2011/08/01/james-and-john-scott-on-fox-news-on-uss-liberty-attack/

http://tinyurl.com/scottsonfox

Captain Ward Boston’s daughter on USS Liberty cover-up by Senator John McCain and his admiral Father:

http://216.240.133.177/archives32/Tourney/2012/03/Tourney_1_033112_180000.mp3

http://tinyurl.com/AnneParish

Following is a youtube of the above:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqSE2sNGzT0


Israeli communications said to prove IAF knew Liberty was U.S. ship


http://america-hijacked.com/2011/05...-said-to-prove-iaf-knew-liberty-was-u-s-ship/

John McCain and his Admiral Father sold out the USS Liberty crew for Israel as John McCain even told a gathering of young Israel firsters that it was okay for the US to fight wars for Israel (like the US did in Iraq with over 5000 Americans dead and thousands more wounded) as one can read on page 112 of Dr. Stephen Sniegoski’s ‘The Transparent Cabal’ book (http://tinyurl.com/thetransparentcabal) – John McCain supported the JINSA/PNAC/AEI Neocon war for Israel agenda in Iraq based on the ‘A Clean Break’ agenda: http://tinyurl.com/cleanbreak as James Morris mentioned McCain and his Father during his Russia Today ‘Crosstalk’ appearance on Syria linked via youtube near beginning of http://tinyurl.com/jamesmorrisoncrosstalk as well!:

McCain, NeoCons, the Israel Lobby Ron Paul Weekly Standard –

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfLeZXrluZw

7000 Miles for the USS Liberty: http://tinyurl.com/7000milesfortheUSSLiberty



What Israel does to brutally oppress the Palestinians got US tragically attacked at the World Trade Center on 9/11 and earlier in 1993 as well (simply look up ‘Israel as a terrorist’s motivation in the index of James Bamford’s ‘A Pretext for War’ book and take a look at the following URL as well):

What Motivated the 9/11 Hijackers? See testimony most didn’t!

http://tinyurl.com/911motivation

See Los Angeles Times article near top of http://tinyurl.com/motivation911

Even General Petraeus (now head of the CIA) warned Congress (but McCain didn’t listen!) that US support for Israel was/is a threat to US troops in theater:

General Petraeus Leaked Emails about Israel (scroll to comments):

http://tinyurl.com/petraeusinnewstatesman

Israel and 9/11 (Petraeus mentioned): http://tinyurl.com/israeland911

Turns out Congressman Garamendi was one of the 81 Congressional Reps AIPAC sent to Israel this past August (scroll down to the comments section at following URL to see Garamendi’s name in the credits)

AIPAC Sends Congress to Israel:

http://tinyurl.com/AIPACSendsCongresstoIsrael

Press TV – ‘Pro-Israel lobby has stranglehold on US political system’

http://america-hijacked.com/2011/05...obby-has-stranglehold-on-us-political-system/

Will Israel Kill Americans Again (by Ray McGovern as General Petraeus mentioned as well)?:

http://tinyurl.com/WillIsraelKillAmericansAgain

US support for Israel against Palestinians motive for worst attack on CIA


http://america-hijacked.com/2011/08...-palestinians-motive-for-worst-attack-on-cia/


http://tinyurl.com/IsraelCIAattackmotive



Why They Attacked US on 911: http://tinyurl.com/whytheyattackedUSon911


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26 Responses to “John McCain Praises Father’s Whitewashing of Israel’s Attack on the USS LIBERTY!”







Rachael Catran says:

September 3, 2011 at 1:02 pm

John McZionist is a traitor and should be in prison..










Cat says:

April 3, 2012 at 4:05 pm

COMMENTS IN A LIBERTY FORUM: Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role. According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack. He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested.

Later, a dual-citizen Israeli major told survivors that he was in an Israeli war room where he heard that pilot’s radio report. The attacking pilots and everyone in the Israeli war room knew that they were attacking an American ship, the major said. He recanted the statement only after he received threatening phone calls from Israel.

The pilot’s protests also were heard by radio monitors in the U.S. Embassy in Lebanon. Then-U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon Dwight Porter has confirmed this. Porter told his story to syndicated columnists Rowland Evans and Robert Novak and offered to submit to further questioning by authorities. Unfortunately, no one in the U.S. government has any interest in hearing these first-person accounts.










David Evans says:

April 16, 2012 at 7:33 pm

McCain’s father and McCain have consistently put Israel ‘s wants above the needs of the United States . Both covered up Israel ‘s heinous attack on the USS Liberty:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRZSzdQuOqM

Now McCain is leading the AIPAC-cowed and corrupted Congress in pushing US involvement in yet another costly war for Israel . Wars and other actions for Israel have cost US taxpayers $3 Trillion to date:

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/stauffer.html

Syria and Iran are being simultaneously undermined by Israeli and US covert forces in order to sever the conduit of defensive rockets flowing to Israel ‘s victims in Gaza and Lebanon . These vital weapons give Israel pause before it launches other wars of aggression like those it launched in 2006 and 2008 on innocent unarmed people as it continues illegally expanding its yet-undeclared borders.

The US can no longer afford legislators like McCain, who support the crimes of Israel, crimes that are making ever-more enemies of former US allies.

David Evans
Former Sergeant, USMC
Member of Veterans For Peace
Israel/Palestine Working Group










Rob says:

June 3, 2012 at 7:17 pm

Right, and we should accept what the doddering old diaper boy has to say about anything? Some have claimed that he has a mind, and is something other than a puppet, but they’re mostly doddering old diaper boys (or girls). Then there’s the younger idiots, who will require diapers before they are 40.










WTH says:

June 3, 2012 at 10:15 pm

You know what they say… “The Apple Doesn’t Fall Far From The Tree.”










James David says:

July 22, 2012 at 2:39 pm

Opening Ceremony: Bob Costas To Pay Respects To Victims Of 1972 Munich Massacre On NBC

This was my comment:

There are also many tragedies that the American media refuses to mention or our spineless politicians try to cover up, all because of “political correctness.” One of these tragedies is the 1967 attack by the Israelis against a U.S. unarmned intelligence ship, the USS Liberty. This helpless ship indured a 45 minute air and torpedo attack by the Israelis resulting in the deaths of 34 American servicemen and 171 more injured. You can get info on this attack by googling “Israel’s attack on the USS Liberty”. This year marks the 45th anniversary yet this tragedy remains untold and kept a secret to the American public. When you say that “we must make sure we never forget these tragedies,” shouldn’t we also include the ones committed by the state of Israel, or would that be an ‘anti-Semitic request?’










Alex Seredin says:

June 8, 2014 at 3:52 pm

I am sure that McCain,his father, and his broad would enjoy kissing the butt
of every Jew on planet Earth and thanking them for murdering Americans










John Watson says:

June 8, 2014 at 6:39 pm

Like father, like son.
His father was a load of ****, so is the son.










Dean says:

June 9, 2014 at 7:13 am

A p.o.s praising the p.o.s. he was spawned from how surprising. Crap like this will continue as long as Democrats and Republicans run the show. We live in a plutocracy not a democracy. Israel is probably providing McCain little boys to fucck or whatever his perversion may be. With any luck next time he goes on a hate filled rant, he will have an aneurism and die.










Stan Benton says:

November 22, 2014 at 11:51 am

Here Mr. McCain shows himself to be unfit to serve in a public position, just as his military “career” showed him to be unfit to serve in the military.

 

[Town Heretic]

John McCain...

Now imagine summarizing a key point or two in a way that isn't so long as to be a rules violation and unlikely to be read by anyone. Also:

Praises Father’s Whitewashing of Israel’s Attack on the USS LIBERTY!

Nothing screams "What comes next is obviously a considered and objective approach to the subject," quite like using the word whitewashing and shouting a bit.

September 2nd, 2011 | Author: Patriot

If that even is his real name... lain

“After years of research for this book, Judge A. Jay Cristol (an Israel firster of Jewish descent) has reached a similar conclusion to one my father reached in his June 18, 1967, endorsement of the findings of the court of inquiry. I commend Judge Cristol for his thoroughness and fairness, and I commend this work.”
– SEN. JOHN McCAIN

And the interjection of "He's a Jew!" icing on the cake does help anyone already put off by the length of the thing feel better about deciding not to bother with it.

Ralph Nader calls into question John McCain’s patriotism and loyalty to the United States:

The Ralph Nader is almost as classy as the anonymous author of the slam piece.

That was the sound of the statute of limitations tolling on respecting Nader for his early work.

And attacking the dead is rarely a decent move (either).

 

[Yorzhik]

Please don't take these posts as an endorsement of republicans. I only list them with conservatives and people on the right because as far as parties go, they are more right then the democrats. "Republicans are the stupid party and democrats the evil party" was portrayed so well in John McCain.

He was a democrat when most people in Alabama were democrats. What particular political ideas can you document him espousing that would support the idea of him being a leftist/liberal?

Unions, poll taxes, and intersectionality. Unions and poll taxes represent a person is willing to use the government to impose tyranny. Intersectionaity is why they see the need for government to be that way.

There is nothing wrong with unions, but the problem was that they got government support. Taxes aren't wrong, but taxes that exist to control people are.

Democrats/leftist/liberals will use the government as a tool to control their neighbors - just like what we see from Bull Conner.

Doesn't mean the party is the party of racism, where most people are concerned (most people still being white in this country) only that most of the racists will be found there.

That may have been true when racists realized they had to stay in the closet, but now that they can take the black vote for granted and foster riots in black neighborhoods for political gains, the racists are starting to show up on the left/liberal/democrat side more openly, again.

 

[Town Heretic]

Unions,

What position did he take on unions that you consider liberal?

poll taxes,

That was about limiting the voting impact of minorities in the South, mostly blacks.

Unions and poll taxes represent a person is willing to use the government to impose tyranny.

The latter, certainly. It's a willful attempt to bar the poor, which in the case of the South meant most blacks, from voting. The union part you're going to have to put some meat on as it isn't by any stretch a prima facie case.

I've left out the intersectionality parts until you manage to do with it what I did with the ethnocentric principle.

There is nothing wrong with unions, but the problem was that they got government support.

Support in what particular and why is that problematic?

Taxes aren't wrong, but taxes that exist to control people are.

I'm not sure what you mean by that. What I mean is that any tax impacts the people who pay it. Gas taxes raise revenue but also impact how often and far many drive, which can impact a number of other economic decisions. Some are intended to impact conduct, like taxes on tobacco.

Democrats/leftist/liberals will use the government as a tool to control their neighbors -

Every party uses government as a tool to control their neighbors, if you want to look at it that way. Laws do that.

just like what we see from Bull Conner.

How, particularly? At present it seems more like circular reasoning to me. You believe this is true of all democrats and Bull Conner is a democrat therefore it must be true of him, absent particulars, again. I'm still waiting on the laws sponsored by Bull or actions that can be tied to a liberal agenda.

Good luck producing that.

That may have been true when racists realized they had to stay in the closet, but now that they can take the black vote for granted and foster riots in black neighborhoods for political gains, the racists are starting to show up on the left/liberal/democrat side more openly, again.

There's so much wrong with that...It's literally counterintuitive to suggest racists would move back into a party they abandoned for the most part over race, when that party remains disproportionately tied to minority interests.

And then there's the idea that blacks are puppets to racist interests. That's pretty offensive and presumptive. You have a lot of work to do that declarations won't manage for you.

But if you can do it, by all means make the particular case.

 

[Yorzhik]

The latter, certainly.

The latter was the point.

Every party uses government as a tool to control their neighbors, if you want to look at it that way. Laws do that.

But one wants a small government, and the other a big government. That's another reason so many Republicans didn't like McCain.

There's so much wrong with that...It's literally counterintuitive to suggest racists would move back into a party they abandoned for the most part over race, when that party remains disproportionately tied to minority interests.

The open racists never left the left like Jeong and Wright. It can only happen on the side that believes in intersectionality, not people that believe in the individual regardless of what group they belong to.

 

[Town Heretic]

The latter was the point.

It was one of two equally yoked by you. I agree with it, but not the other.

But one wants a small government, and the other a big government. That's another reason so many Republicans didn't like McCain.

I don't understand that given that Republicans in power grow government every time. What, they wanted to be less obvious about it? In any event that's different from the point we were contending on, where you claimed that democrats/etc. use law to control people and I observed that laws do that and that legislatures pass laws.

The open racists never left the left

Sure they did. The white South of Wallace was largely racist and most of those folks turned republican. I omit your intersectionality use, again, since you wave the word like a sword but you've yet to do with it what I did easily enough in illustrating the relevance and relation of the ethnocentric principle to groupings and response to the other. And because you're about to neuter it in the next bit at any rate.

It can only happen on the side that believes in intersectionality, not people that believe in the individual regardless of what group they belong to.

Given the alt right and any number of racist groups and figures, like David Duke, who have openly supported the conservative movement and the Republican Party you just invalidated whatever you were trying to establish with your mantra.

 

[Yorzhik]

I don't understand that given that Republicans in power grow government every time.

That's the point. It's why "Republican" in the list of Republican/right/conservative is the most different from the other two. It's why I'm not a Republican. It's why the Republicans are known as the stupid party. People, even Republicans, that do leftist/liberal/democratic things, like McCain, should be shunned, branded for being evil, and not supported. That's why I spend my time on people like you to understand why leftist/liberal/democrats do what they do from the perspective of the other side.

Sure they did.

Not the open racists. The open racists, like Jeong, are on the left/liberal/democrat side. The alt right and David Duke types are openly reviled by most Republicans and everyone on the right. That's why David Duke and Richard Spencer moderate their speech - because they have to stay in the closet somewhat.

The white South of Wallace was largely racist and most of those folks turned republican.

But they couldn't be open about it, and almost all the open racists, like Wallace and Conner, stayed Democrats until they died.

I omit your intersectionality use

Intersectionality defines an individual's character by the group they belong to. I'm sure you can see that's not right. In fact you say "That's as unfair as suggesting the Republican Party is mostly about white people, because most of its membership is white."

Well said. But then you show your cognitive dissonance by stating:
"Spoken like someone who has never had to think of being addressed, judged, restricted, and unfairly treated because of a trait you'd call superficial. And it's that association and treatment, for generations established in law and social restrictions that governed everything from property rights to essential human dignity, that makes what you call superficial something with a much more profound meaning than you appear to realize."

"People who would call being part of a minority a superficial demarcation are almost guaranteed to be white"

Somehow now people are defined by their skin color. And:

"Gender isn't a superficial trait."

It is when deciding if a person, in general, is trustworthy and hard working.

That's why Democrats try and fix the black problem, the homo problem, the female problem, and other minority group problems with laws that apply to that group. It's the same reason they thought chattel slavery was a good idea and Jim Crow laws were enacted. They saw blacks as a group and not as individuals. It's why, despite your good intentions and hatred of chattel slavery and Jim Crow laws, you seeing blacks as a group will not end well.

 

[ok doser]

Please define "intersectionality"

this guy does a pretty good job: