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Hello? Over here. See this?
Acts 5:32 We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him."
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Hello? Over here. See this?
Acts 5:32 We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him."
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Prove it.
Why are you allowed to harass?
You are not God.
You are not Jesus.
What I do is none of your business.
Why do you try to draw attention away form what Jesus says?
Listen to yourself boasting.
Do you know Jesus commands you to be humble, to be a godly witness to the world?
Your self righteous attitude is not Jesus teaching.
Jesus is Lord of all creation whether anyone repents or not.
But speaking of repenting ........ when are you going to repent of telling the same lie over and over again that we must obey EVERYTHING Jesus commanded?
When one is still sinning (as you have admitted you do), is that what working out your salvation looks like?
How can you work out your salvation by still sinning?
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Your self-righteous attitude is a grave sin.
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Paul the one you hate and falsely judge also boasts.
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You need to obey God.
Do you hate your sin?
God says to hate what is evil.
Do you fear God?
God says to fear Him.
If you fear God and learn to hate your sin, you can be an overcomer.
From gotquestions.org
The apostle Paul clearly taught that we receive the Holy Spirit the moment we receive Jesus Christ as our Savior. First Corinthians 12:13 declares, “For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.” Romans 8:9 tells us that if a person does not possess the Holy Spirit, he or she does not belong to Christ: “You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.” Ephesians 1:13-14 teaches us that the Holy Spirit is the seal of salvation for all those who believe: “Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession—to the praise of his glory.”
These three passages make it clear that the Holy Spirit is received at the moment of salvation. Paul could not say that we all were baptized by one Spirit and all given one Spirit to drink if not all of the Corinthian believers possessed the Holy Spirit. Romans 8:9 is even stronger, stating that if a person does not have the Spirit, he does not belong to Christ. Therefore, the possession of the Spirit is an identifying factor of the possession of salvation. Further, the Holy Spirit could not be the “seal of salvation” (Ephesians 1:13-14) if He is not received at the moment of salvation. Many scriptures make it abundantly clear that our salvation is secured the moment we receive Christ as Savior.
This discussion is controversial because the ministries of the Holy Spirit are often confused. The receiving/indwelling of the Spirit occurs at the moment of salvation. The filling of the Spirit is an ongoing process in the Christian life. While we hold that the baptism of the Spirit also occurs at the moment of salvation, some Christians do not. This sometimes results in the baptism of the Spirit being confused with “receiving the Spirit” as an act subsequent to salvation.
In conclusion, how do we receive the Holy Spirit? We receive the Holy Spirit by simply receiving the Lord Jesus Christ as our Savior (John 3:5-16). When do we receive the Holy Spirit? The Holy Spirit becomes our permanent possession the moment we believe.
You see, you do the same as your hypocrite opponents.
You exalt Paul.
Jesus is the Lord, not Paul.
You have been misrepresenting Jesus to the world with your hypocritical practice.
It's your own words, GT.
You have already said you still sin.
Is sinning being obedient?
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I don't want to read all that. It is not even your words.
Can you say it in your own words and shorten it?
You need to edit that, Meshak.
I think you just got in a hurry and meant to say not Paul.
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Prove it.
Why won't you prove it?
Jesus says repent or perish.
Jesus is Lord over all.
Why won't you believe him?
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Paul rebukes you with the words of the Lord, and so do I.
Since you have already said that you still sin, is sinning obeying God?
With that silly logic of yours, everyone is obeying God because everyone still sins.
Don't you care about what you say and how you say it?
how do we receive the Holy Spirit? We receive the Holy Spirit by simply receiving the Lord Jesus Christ as our Savior (John 3:5-16). When do we receive the Holy Spirit? The Holy Spirit becomes our permanent possession the moment we believe.
You think all those rebukes are made just for you to use it to attack your enemy.
You see, you are too blind to see the truth because of your me, me, me attitude.
You are only shouting "look at me, I am so holy like Jesus".
What's the matter, GT?
You can't remember all the stories you have told here?
You gonna try and deny you have told us here at TOL that you still sin?
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