What is God's first creation?

glorydaz

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marhig said:
Jesus came in the express image of God, that doesn't mean he is God. That means we saw the fullness of God through him all of God's love, mercy, forgiveness and he spoke every word that was from the father who is his God, Jesus was in the fullness of God in word and deed.

The head of Christ is God, so God is the Godhead, he's the head of us all, including Christ, Christ has one above him, and he's the father who is also his God and he sent him to bare witness to the truth and Christ Jesus lived by the will of his God denying his own will to bring us the truth and a perfect example for us to follow and he is now exalted by his God and set at his right hand, there's no need to be exalted if he was God already! And there's no need for him to be given authority if he is already God either, but he was, he was given authority and set above all in heaven and earth by his God! And Christ Jesus had the fullness of God bodily, he had the fullness of the Holy Spirit because he was sinless. So we saw the fullness of God bodily through Christ. It says in the Bible that God was IN Christ reconciling the world unto himself.

There is one God, and he's the father, and that is exactly what Christ Jesus says and he says that he is his God, and the apostles say that the father is the God and father of our Lord Jesus Christ, I am believing the truth, it's in the Bible clearly written!
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You don't know God.....save your preaching for your cult friends.

If you knew God, you'd know He speaks of Himself as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

You just don't believe Him. :nono:
 
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glorydaz said:
Before the world was......This is who Christ really is....GOD

John 17:5KJV And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

John 1:1-3KJV 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
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I've show him these obvious scriptures many times. He prefers his false interpretation of a couple of others instead. He's a useless illiterate heretic through and through.
 
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keypurr said:
Excellent post, but they don't care for truth.
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Ok, so, if you're so "enlightened" :)vomit:), answer this question about your unitarian God. I mean, you should be able to answer it, right, since you know better than we do?

1) Is something (like humility) good because God recognizes it as good? Or,
2) Is something good because God commands that it is good (as Socrates put it, because God loves it)?
 
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glorydaz said:
Before the world was......This is who Christ really is....GOD

John 17:5KJV And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

John 1:1-3KJV 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
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Christ (logos), is God's first creation FOR ALL THINGS WERE CREATED THROUGH CHRIST.

Logos is firstborn, the express image of God, but he is am IMAGE, not God himself.

John 1:1 is the most misunderstood verse in the Bible thanks to the Greek.
 
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glorydaz said:
It's just over your head, isn't it? God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Let that sink in. :wave:
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Silly thoughts friend.

The Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Father and the holy Spirit is neither Father or Son.

Our forefathers did a great job of deceiving the early church. A pagan priest who was also the Emperor set the rules for the church.
 
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I've show him these obvious scriptures many times. He prefers his false interpretation of a couple of others instead. He's a useless illiterate heretic through and through.
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Your blind RD, your also dumb. You have no idea what is in the Bible.

I bring you light and you spit out darkness.
 
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Ok, so, if you're so "enlightened" :)vomit:), answer this question about your unitarian God. I mean, you should be able to answer it, right, since you know better than we do?

1) Is something (like humility) good because God recognizes it as good? Or,
2) Is something good because God commands that it is good (as Socrates put it, because God loves it)?
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why would you care?

Why do you shun John 17:3 and replace it with the doctrines of fools?
 
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keypurr said:
why would you care?

Why do you shun John 17:3 and replace it with the doctrines of fools?
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Oh, no. You're not getting out of it that easily. You claim to be sooooooo enlightened, so you should be able to readily and quickly answer this:

Keypurr:

1) Is something (like humility) good because God recognizes it as good? Or,

2) Is something good because God commands that it is good (as Socrates put it, because God loves it)?
 
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JudgeRightly said:
Let's just sit here and admire the hypocrisy for a moment...

:mock:
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The blind should not be led by the blind. You JR are blind to the words of the master or to weak to do what the master preaches. Your just a "yes" person to the establishment.
 
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keypurr said:
Christ (logos), is God's first creation FOR ALL THINGS WERE CREATED THROUGH CHRIST.
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By quoting parts of verses, you miss the whole truth, Keypurr.

By, through, and for Him......spend more time reading and less time twisting what you've read.



Col. 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.​
 
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glorydaz said:
By quoting parts of verses, you miss the whole truth, Keypurr.

By, through, and for Him......spend more time reading and less time twisting what you've read.



Col. 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.​
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Your problem is that you do not understand who "him" is, go back to verse 15.

Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;


The Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Father
 
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keypurr said:
Your problem is that you do not understand who "him" is, go back to verse 15.

Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;


The Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Father
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Keypurr, does this question scare you? Or are you really not so enlightened about God's true nature?

1) Is something (like humility) good because God recognizes it as good? Or,

2) Is something good because God commands that it is good (as Socrates put it, because God loves it)?
 
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