yes, i was trying to answer what Peter's mission was. was it just to build the church ? not yet the BOC ?
What indeed was Peter's 'Jesus given' mission?
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yes, i was trying to answer what Peter's mission was. was it just to build the church ? not yet the BOC ?
Indeed one does not need a church or any kind of human vicar or go between pope or priest etc., to connect with God.
Fact is the Lord Jesus rule over and manages Christians Himself through His Own Spirit, by communing with and through the hearts or spirits of each Christian. It is totally 'not seen. Although all Christians live a full and heavenly material life on earth, there are absolutely no physical church, physical humans or physical other things involved or present.
In fact one cannot connect with God through any church or human (i.e. anointed, appointed or other) on earth. The very existence of current churches, popes and priests, deny and undermine one's spiritual actualization. This denies, undermines and relegates one's spiritual capacity to commune with God (the Holy Spirit) through the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. And since this is the only way possible. Current churches, popes, priests etc. 'killeth'.
God is a Spirit. One must know God in Spirit. God is the Holy Spirit.
However there is more. A Christian cannot go directly to or commune directly with, the Holy Spirit. A Christian has to go through the Lord Jesus in order to connect and commune with the Holy Spirit.
This can done only through a connection between one's own spirit and the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. For Christians only the Spirit of the Lord Jesus is in communion with the Holy Spirit. An individual Christian person cannot be in direct communion with the Holy Spirit.
Aspiring Christians and Christians can come onto God (the Holy Spirit) only through the Lord Jesus. Only the Lord Jesus can and do make intercession for each Christian with the Holy Spirit. Therefore Christians cannot and do not connect directly with or commune directly with the Holy Spirit. Christians commune with the Lord Jesus who is in communion with the Holy Spirit, on behalf of each Christian.
In order to do this service, the Spirit of the Lord Jesus was regenerated after his crucifixion. Then he rose to spirit heaven, clad only in this Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God body, to sit on the right side of the Holy Spirit. In this Spirit-only format the Lord Jesus is ready willing and able to make intercession on behalf of each Christian with the Holy Spirit. This communion happens through one's own spirit and the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.
This is achieved by each Christian individually, not in groups. This is achieved when each of them discern and commune with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus through each of their own individual hearts or spirit, in real time, all the time. The Spirit of the Lord Jesus makes intercession with the Holy Ghost, on behalf of each of them, according to the thins in each of their individual hearts or spirit.
There is absolutely no need for any physical church or physical or other pope or priest. Any projection that this is need is Satanic and a denial and blasphemy of the Holy Ghost. And this blasphemy is not forgivable at any place or time.
Clearly this fact is not know to the very great majority of the billion strong traditional Christians. This is their sad state. They have been totally misled by false prophets. This is why, a billion are called and only a few chosen. Where do you want to be?
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One cannot be part of the body of Christ, if one is in or associated to any church which is informed and guided by the ideas of Peter & Co.
Such churches are under law (i.e. the law, canons, etc.).
All law including the law and canons etc, are simply schoolmaster to bring one onto faith and Christ. One who is under ideals and laws are not under grace. They are also not under faith and Christ. They are not in Christ.
One who is not 'in Christ' cannot be in the body of Christ.
Being under the law and canons etc. is not the same as being under grace and in Christ.
Clearly there are two very distinct churches. In one church, sin has dominion over one. In the other church, sin has no dominion over one.
One church is physical, 'seen' and temporal. This was established by the physical, 'seen' and eternal, son of man, Lord Jesus. This is anchored on righteousness of God that is with laws. This church is no way connected to the body of Christ. This one was rendered onto Peter primarily but also on to Paul. When one dies under the ideas of this church one is buried in the earth together with their dead physical bodies. Here the dead bury their dead. This is Jesus church of law.
The other church is Spiritual, 'not seen' and eternal. This one was established by the Spiritual, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus. This 'not seen' church is anchored on righteousness of God that is without laws. This one was rendered onto only Paul. Only this church is the body of Christ. In this church, when people die, they rise (in their individual spirit bodies) in three days to be like angels in heaven. They are not buried with their dead physical bodies. Here one follows the Lord Jesus in the regeneration. Only this church is Jesus' church of Truth and Grace.
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