glorydaz
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Moses couldn't be a sin offering....he was not sinless.
What does God's Holy Law Demand?
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Moses couldn't be a sin offering....he was not sinless.
genuineoriginal
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Then Moses was trying to do something greater.
That is besides the point.
Epoisses
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The antichrist is the beast who appears as a lamb (Jesus) but speaks as a dragon (Satan). Ergo the antichrist appearing as the false messiah. Also the rider on white horseback who conquers the world is the initial appearing of the antichrist and Jesus is also pictured as riding a white horse in Rev. 19. So once again we see the elements of deception with the antichrist assuming the persona of Christ.
genuineoriginal
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The two beasts in Revelation 13 are empires.
The first empire (beast) has seven heads and ten horns, the second beast has two horns.
The fulfillment of these two beasts are America (see Revelation 17) and Israel under the two state solution (Jews and Palestinians).
The four horsemen are not people, but represent the judgments that came on Jerusalem in 70 CE.
Ezekiel 14:21 21 For thus saith the Lord God; How much more when I send my four sore judgments upon Jerusalem, the sword, and the famine, and the noisome beast, and the pestilence, to cut off from it man and beast? |
Your problem is that you were taught by Dispensationalists to look for "The AntiChrist" in every prophecy, which has blinded you from seeing the true meaning of the prophecies.
beloved57
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What Gods law demanded,Christ fulfilled by His obedience unto death.
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Jesus and the Apostles were not priests of the temple yet they worked on Sabbath. Drove the Pharisees nuts. Were Jesus and the Apostles blameless for working on Sabbath?
beloved57
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The two beasts in Rev 13 are antichrist government and antichrist religion.
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genuineoriginal
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That kind of thinking only comes from people that refuse to apply the established prophetic symbols to the prophecies.
A beast in prophecy represents an empire, not a government or a religion.
genuineoriginal
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Thinking the beasts are a government and a religion are not close when thinking that makes you look away from the real empires.
Epoisses
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And you were taught by preterists/historicists that prophecy means to foretell the past. Also beasts do not represent ancient kingdoms but that would take forever to explain. The lamblike beast of Rev. 13 performs miracles, signs and lying wonders even calling fire down out of heaven. Not a kingdom.
genuineoriginal
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Beasts represent empires in prophecy.
An empire does not have to be an "ancient" kingdom.
In the prophecy of Daniel 7 the four beasts represented Babylon, Media-Persia, Greece, and Rome.
Two of those empires were current at the time of the prophecy.
And the woman of Revelation 17 gets drunk with kings and has sex with them. Yet the woman is really a city, just like Aholah and Aholibah.
A beast in prophecy is a symbol of an empire.
The first beast in Revelation 13 is the beast in Revelation 17 and is the USA.
The second beast in Revelation 13 is the two state solution of Israel/Palestine.
they need something in common
-the temple
-two destroyed the temple
-one desecrated it
-one is preventing the third
Epoisses
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Gabriel was in a battle with the prince of Persia for 21 days and this 'prince' actually prevented him from coming to Daniel in answer to his prayer. The prince of Persia or the ram is not a kingdom. Satan is called the king of Babylon is Isa. 14 and the prince of Tyre in Eze. 28. Once again not a kingdom.
Babylon the great harlot is Jerusalem so you're right she is a city. At the end Jerusalem will be the capital of the world and the USA, Russia, Rome and the Islamic nations will all bow down to her.
That's right (Mt 5:48). Gamble if you like but all will give an account (Phil 2:12). :juggle:
"Lev 15:31–33 In all these instructions, God was showing the Israelites that they must have a profound reverence for holy things; and nothing was more suited to that purpose than to bar from the tabernacle all who were polluted by any kind of uncleanness, ceremonial as well as natural, physical as well as spiritual. In order to mark out His people as dwelling before Him in holiness, He required of them complete purity and didn’t allow them to come before Him when defiled, even by involuntary or secret impurities. And when one considers that God was training a people to live in His presence, it becomes apparent that these rules for the maintenance of personal purity, pointing to the necessity of purity in the heart, were neither too stringent nor too minute." MacArthur, J., Jr. (Ed.). (1997). The MacArthur Study Bible (electronic ed., p. 176). Nashville, TN: Word Pub.
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genuineoriginal
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You don't seem to have any point in bringing these thing up, since we are talking about what a beast represents in prophecy, and a beast represents an empire.
You are mistaken about Babylon being Jerusalem, since Babylon is the city of the exile and Jerusalem is the city of return.
If you keep making that mistake, you will never come to the knowledge of the truth and recognize the great city sitting on the beast for what it is, New York City.
That only happens during the Millennial kingdom, which is after the beast (USA) leads the nations of the world into war against Jerusalem.
Epoisses
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Nowhere in scripture is a beast ever identified as a kingdom, nation or empire. They are always identified as a prince or a king. As in the prince of Persia or the prince of Greece. Now a prince or a king can be the leader of a kingdom or empire and I have no problem with that but the beast itself is an individual not a kingdom.