Was Gen 1 and 2 one event blended or two separate events?

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Ps82

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Clete said:
This is NOT Christian doctrine. It is neither biblical nor is it rational.

If you want to make up your own religion go ahead, just don't pretend like you're a Christian. I can't comprehend what your motives could possible be for even wanting to put on such a pretense, but I don't really care either. Just don't take our side, okay? You make us look like lunatics.
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Question: Did God create an image for Himself before he gave that same likeness to mankind? What is your version of "his image"? Do you know God has a soul? Leviticus 26:11 and Exodus 20:19-21? Do you know what a soul is? Scripture tells us that when there was a body for mankind and God breathed spiritual life into it ... it was then that man became a living soul. It seems to be a living soul there needs to be a body and the living essence from God shared with it ... Wallah, a complete living soul.

Old Testament:
Leviticus 26:11 ... LJV says: And I (the LORD God) will set my tabernacle (dwelling place) among you (Israel): and my soul will not abhor you.
12 And I will walk among you, and will be your God, and ye shall be my people. 13 I am the LORD your God, which brought you forth out of the land of Egypt ...

There you go. The invisible SPIRIT, Elohim, has a body for walking around and dwelling in an abode among Israel. Sounds like the Spirit of God found a way to have a walking talking presence ... which he also shared its likeness with Adam.

Exodus 20:19-21 And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and God answered him by a voice.
20 And the LORD came down upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: and the LORD called Moses up to the top of the mount; and Moses went up.
21 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go down charge the people, lest they break through unto the Lord to gaze (look upon me), and many of them perish.

It seems Moses did know the LORD God face to face! He heard and knew his voice. The people were not invited to see his visage and were in danger if they tried to see (gaze at) him. Because the SPIRT knew how to become a walking talking soul within his own creation.

New Testament:

John 5:37-38 Jesus said: 37,38 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye (clueless leaders of Israel) have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. 38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.

You see - There was a shape (bodily form to be seen) and their was and audible voice to be heard. You'd have to go back to the days of Samuel to find out why these men were not allowed to see and hear the Lord as the little boy Samuel ... but Jesus made it clear they had not been given the privilege of seeing the presence (the soul of God named The LORD God/YHWH).

This image God created plus a living spiritual essence from God was what God used to make both himself and Ada, walking talking living visible souls (individuals seen) within creation!

Now you guys - prove me wrong ... just saying. I'd love the conversation.
 
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Quibbling. Words I use - versus type of language I speak. You really mean you don't like the concepts I share which are different from most of the things you heard. I accept that ... but that does not automatically make them wrong. Sure, I don't get all ideas correct ... some times I speculated ... some times I ramble as I wonder about things ... sometimes I make a suggestion, but I usually say things similar to these ... This is my opinion. What I think. I have wondered. I'm no expert. Now, there are certainly topics where I speculate, but others where I have done a huge amount of studying. I do have the ability to thoroughly discuss my favorite topics, where I am more informed and adamant ... while listening to the views of others on other topics.

Let's be friends or at least polite. I'm not a cultist or am I trying to make anyone look like a lunatic. Nor do I come as a committed heretic ... trying to take over the TOL board as one or both (?) of you suggested (as: post blatant heresies as if this was their own personal 'Heresy Central' blog posting website?)

I plan to re-friend you. I had thought ignoring you might make TOL more pleasurable for all of us. Yes, I do want to get my thoughts across ... and will probably leave TOL if not much interest becomes the norm.
 
Clete

Clete

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Right Divider said:
She always uses very cultist language, but I'm not sure which cult.
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If by “cult” you mean a theological system that redefines God, Christ, and creation outside historic Christianity while claiming biblical authority then there is no question this is cultist.

It's weird mix of modalism (i.e. Oneness Pentecotalism) and Gnostgicism.

When I fed it into Chat GPT, it's unprompted response (i.e. all I did was feed the posts into GPT and hit enter) started with....

"The TOL poster’s position is internally incoherent, biblically unsustainable, and conceptually confused. It invents a two-stage creation, a “created image of God” that God supposedly inhabits, and a seventh-day work period that Scripture explicitly denies. It also collapses into a form of modalism mixed with quasi-Gnostic pre-existence of humanity. The argument relies on category errors, misread Hebrew, and repeated contradictions of the biblical text it claims to explain."​
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Seems pretty dead on to me!
 
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