truthman said:I don't think attacking them for a coffee shop and exercise classes really addresses the issue h20
It's not an attack.
I find that churches with coffee shops and mini-YMCAs (which i don't think they have one...) tend to have the kind of luke-warm Christianity that enables mis-guided preachers to counsel and comfort folks who starve helpless children.
My comment stands...though I'm sorry it puts you in the awkward position of defending Victory Church...it should make you feel a little queasy.