Victim Blaming

[ok doser]

If someone baits a car in a bad neighborhood with a purse and waits to catch a habitual thief, are they wrong? Is that bad, or does that clean things up a bit?

they'd be tempting someone to sin

but it would be someone who was already actively sinning


what if you caught someone who had never sinned before and who might not have if you hadn't tempted him?

 

[1PeaceMaker]

what if you caught someone who had never sinned before and who might not have if you hadn't tempted him?

A man is drawn away and tempted by his own lusts when he sins.

 

[Tambora]

If someone baits a car in a bad neighborhood with a purse and waits to catch a habitual thief, are they wrong? Is that bad, or does that clean things up a bit?

Law enforcement does that sort of thing all the time.
Baiting prostitution seekers by dressing like a hooker.
Or baiting child molesters by creating a child's account and asking grown men to come over.

 

[ok doser]

A man is drawn away by his own lusts and tempted when he sins.

baiting a car isn't tempting someone to sin?

 

[1PeaceMaker]

baiting a car isn't tempting someone to sin?

No person is in mind when the trap is set.

 

[ok doser]

No person is in mind when the trap is set.

no specific person

but you're expecting to catch someone, right?

 

[1PeaceMaker]

no specific person

but you're expecting to catch someone, right?

Someone with a covetous mind, already bent on picking an easy target.

It sends a message to criminals. Don't think easy is easy.

 

[ok doser]

ok, so you're hoping to catch someone with a covetous mind

what if you catch someone who never had a covetous mind before you put the opportunity before them?

 

[glorydaz]

Yep.
In her scenarios the perp and the victim are the same person.
Not so with rape cases.
They were poor scenarios to make her case that rape victims deserve to be blamed for the perp's action.

Oh, excuse me for not realizing this thread was about rape victims. :chuckle:

 

[1PeaceMaker]

If the only cars that weren't closely surveilled and protected were the locked cars, pretty soon, they would be the easy targets.

 

[Tambora]

Oh, excuse me for not realizing this thread was about rape victims. :chuckle:

You're excused.

opcorn:

 

[ok doser]

Oh, excuse me for not realizing this thread was about rape victims. :chuckle:

all threads are about rape victims

dint you get the memo?

 

[Tambora]

all threads are about rape victims

 

[1PeaceMaker]

ok, so you're hoping to catch someone with a covetous mind

what if you catch someone who never had a covetous mind before you put the opportunity before them?

To the pure, all things are pure. An opportunity does not make a criminal. The heart does.

Some people are, by their very nature, vulnerable bait. They need protectors. The more enticing, the more protecting needed, especially in an unruly society.

Our problem is a lack of protection and a tolerant attitude toward crime trends. We need more of resistance and less encouragement of bad behavior towards those who are vulnerable and enticing.

 

[1PeaceMaker]

Are you enticing someone to sin by being beautiful, accomplished, famous or wealthy?

 

[ok doser]

To the pure, all things are pure. An opportunity does not make a criminal. The heart does.

an unguided heart is an easily swayed thing

 

[glorydaz]

No one is to blame for theft except the thief.

That's what I tried to tell my grandpa when I left the door open on the chicken coop, and a fox managed to make off with one of our best laying hens. :chuckle:

Thieves are like foxes....you aren't going to change them, so when I leave my purse on the seat of an unlocked car, it's MY fault. I am to blame.

The problem with people today is they flat out refuse to accept responsibility for their OWN behavior. They act like they are innocent victims. I'm betting that isn't the way most of us were raised, so what happened? :think:

 

[1PeaceMaker]

an unguided heart is an easily swayed thing

It's not swayed away from doing right by innocence.

 

[ok doser]

who is innocent?

 

[ok doser]

That's what I tried to tell my grandpa when I left the door open on the chicken coop, and a fox managed to make off with one of our best laying hens. :chuckle:

guess you shoulda had tam for a grampa