UK gives "do not resuscitate" order or mentally retarded people

Gary K

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On top of the outrageous killing of the elderly is added the killing of anyone with a learning disability. This is nothing but flat out eugenics just like the Nazi's implemented it during WWII. You lefties ought to be really proud of yourself for supporting this nonsense.

 

Gary K

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why is this "leftists"?
I've already demonstrated the UK has been socialist for over 70 years. You're almost all leftists because your government and nation are run by socialist principles since 1945 when the Fabians in the Labour party nationalized most of the industries in Britain. None of the industries have ever escaped nationalization. So, it's leftists doing this. When it walks like a socialist, talks like a socialist, it's a socialist whether you like it or not.

Oh, I know you'll deny it's socialism. But that means very little to me when your nation is actually socialist in nature.
 

chair

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I've already demonstrated the UK has been socialist for over 70 years. You're almost all leftists because your government and nation are run by socialist principles since 1945 when the Fabians in the Labour party nationalized most of the industries in Britain. None of the industries have ever escaped nationalization. So, it's leftists doing this. When it walks like a socialist, talks like a socialist, it's a socialist whether you like it or not.

Oh, I know you'll deny it's socialism. But that means very little to me when your nation is actually socialist in nature.
1. I'm not British
2. You'll label anything bad "leftist". In this particular case- who exactly came up with this idea? And who is this 'watchdog' organization that blew the whistle?- another 'leftist' body, I believe.
 

Hilltrot

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On top of the outrageous killing of the elderly is added the killing of anyone with a learning disability. This is nothing but flat out eugenics just like the Nazi's implemented it during WWII. You lefties ought to be really proud of yourself for supporting this nonsense.

Welcome to England.
 

eider

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On top of the outrageous killing of the elderly is added the killing of anyone with a learning disability.
dnacpr notices are not weapons for killing, ffreeloader, they are the only way of getting the staff and equipment to folks with best chance of survival in hospitals that are overstretched to the limits.
When staff and equipment are available then they can be used.

This is nothing but flat out eugenics just like the Nazi's implemented it during WWII.
No, ffreeloader, the NHS does not take people to graves and shoot them, nor gas them, nor starve them.

You lefties ought to be really proud of yourself for supporting this nonsense.

The UK is at present run by a Right Wing Conservative Government, ffreeloader.
 

eider

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So typical of you, fffreeloader

Your thread title gives you away so well:-
UK gives "do not resuscitate" order or mentally retarded people

You can't help it, I guess.
Mencap stands for 'Mentally Handicap' and the charity's full title is:-

Royal Society for Mentally Handicapped Children and Adults

..... you and your retards, ffreeloader. Your ideas would not be welcome in the UK, no way.
 

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dnacpr notices . . . are the only way of getting the staff and equipment to folks with best chance of survival in hospitals that are overstretched to the limits.
When staff and equipment are available then they can be used.

Prioritizing certain patients over others is one thing.

Telling the medical professionals to not even attempt to save some people when they are fully capable of doing so is quite another.

This is the latter, not the former.

The UK is at present run by a Right Wing Conservative Government, ffreeloader.

The UK government is , for the most part, a democracy, yes?

Here's where that lies on the political spectrum.

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Your government is far from "right wing."
 

chair

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Prioritizing certain patients over others is one thing.

Telling the medical professionals to not even attempt to save some people when they are fully capable of doing so is quite another.

This is the latter, not the former.



The UK government is , for the most part, a democracy, yes?

Here's where that lies on the political spectrum.

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Your government is far from "right wing."
Sounds like....the thinking in Iran.
 

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Sounds like....the thinking in Iran.

Last I checked, Iran has a "democratically elected president, a parliament (or Majlis), an Assembly of Experts which elects the Supreme Leader, and local councils. ... In addition, there are representatives elected from appointed organizations (usually under the Supreme Leader's control) to "protect the state's Islamic character"."

According to the chart above, that puts it on the left.

So yes, it sounds like the thinking in iran is not dissimilar to the thinking in the UK.
 
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chair

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Last I checked, Iran has a "democratically elected president, a parliament (or Majlis), an Assembly of Experts which elects the Supreme Leader, and local councils. ... In addition, there are representatives elected from appointed organizations (usually under the Supreme Leader's control) to "protect the state's Islamic character"."

According to the chart above, that puts it on the left.

So yes, it sounds like the thinking in iran is not dissimilar to the thinking in the UK.
Iran is defacto run by the religious leaders- as you well know.
Making a nice graphic that says "I'm right, and god is on my side' is just that- a nice graphic with your bloated opinion of your own ideas.
 

eider

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Prioritizing certain patients over others is one thing.

Telling the medical professionals to not even attempt to save some people when they are fully capable of doing so is quite another.

This is the latter, not the former.



The UK government is , for the most part, a democracy, yes?

Here's where that lies on the political spectrum.

View attachment 459

Your government is far from "right wing."
That's what you think.
DNR is all about saving the most likely cases when staff have not got the gear or resources to save all.
 

Hilltrot

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That's what you think.
DNR is all about saving the most likely cases when staff have not got the gear or resources to save all.
Wait!? I though Socialized medicine was great and didn't turn away the poor . . . now you're saying that's not true. Why do you hate people with down's syndrome so much? What did they ever do to you?
Why do you want them dead? After all, socialized medicine works! Right?! That's why you're insisting the U.S. have it!? Right?
 

ok doser

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That's what you think.
DNR is all about saving the most likely cases when staff have not got the gear or resources to save all.
Once again, eider jumps in without opening the link and learning about the controversy. Educate your dumb self:



The Care Quality Commission said in December that inappropriate Do Not Attempt Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation (DNACPR) notices had caused potentially avoidable deaths last year.

DNACPRs are usually made for people who are too frail to benefit from CPR, but Mencap said some seem to have been issued for people simply because they had a learning disability. The CQC is due to publish a report on the practice within weeks.

 

chair

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Not sure why you'd call Mencap a leftist group. Seems kinda retarded. In fact it's difficult to view almost anything you post lately as anything other than retarded trolling.

odd that you - who are so concerned about those with disabilities- throws around the word 'retard' so much.
 

Gary K

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1. I'm not British
2. You'll label anything bad "leftist". In this particular case- who exactly came up with this idea? And who is this 'watchdog' organization that blew the whistle?- another 'leftist' body, I believe.
The UK is socialist. They have nationalized, put government in control, of most, if not all, of their industries. That's pure socialism. I read British media on a daily basis and not a one of their politicians speak to untangling business and government. They keep on making the ties stronger. That's socialism. And that's what their "conservative" politicians do. Boris? He's a really bad joke as a "conservative. So are the rest of his cabinet. I haven't seen anything that any of them have done that could actually be considered "conservative.

So the UK government is radical left wing. They gave the order so, yes, it leftists who gave the orders to push eugenics. It's always been that way. Fabians have been big fans of eugenics for many decades. So it's the Fabian influence pushing for eugenics.
 

Gary K

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And in this case it's about devaluing the lives of the mentally retarded.
Yeah, the socialists are all about helping the poor and helpless. They like to "help" them by getting rid of them. Same thing the Nazis did during WWII. They put the disabled in camps. They kept the parents/family away from them. No visitation. Then they just slowly killed of the disabled. Some they experimented on. They just quit feeding them so they ended up starving them to death.

To disguise all this the Nazis used remote camps in the mountains set in the most beautiful parts of Germany. That remoteness was their way of keeping families away from their disabled relatives. They put up sentry boxes and armed choke points on access roads. And they patrolled the land to keep out anyone attempting to see what was going on.
 
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