drbrumley
Well-known member
I did a search under DRBrumley and it had me listed under the old BEL forum. I also noted a truthseeker on there as well. Truthseeker, is this you and if it is, is this offer still standing?
From the forum.
$500 Debate offer: Vengeance
« on: Jan 10th, 2003, 3:01pm » Quote Modify
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RE: Vengeance, Bob Enyart live 12/30/02.
Debate for truth offer: $500
CC : BobEnyartLive YahooGroup
Bob,
I listened to your show twice which aired 12/30/02. I was very sad to
hear you teaching a false doctrine while at the same time Misquoting
scripture(2:45min). As far as Christians going right to heaven when they
die, you repeat the same old Christian cliché's. I.E.: Absent from the
body, present with the lord. Only you reinforced the error on your
program by quoting the scripture this way, "...when your absent from the
body your present with the lord..." The proper quote is, "We are
confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to
be present with the Lord".
2Cor5:8(KJV). Most Christians conveniently leave out those two words,
Willing and Rather. I highly disagree with your interpretation and can
prove it by us walking through 2Cor5:1-10.
You then move over to Rev6:9 and imply these are literal Christians
crying out to God for revenge. Again Bob, I highly disagree with your
interpretation. I believe all the verses in Rev ch.6 are symbolic and it
should be no problem proving it. There are many problems with taking Rev
Ch.6 literal. One problem is, where are the rest of the Christians? These
Christians were killed for the Word. What about the millions who have
died of other causes. Another question that comes up is, why are these
Christians resting? Also, Why did John Identify these Christians as, "the
souls of them"?Why not identify them as, believers, the redeemed, the
resurrected, etc.? I have many more of these questions as I walk through
Rev ch.6 with its 6 seals. Gen 4:10 parallels Rev 6:9, yet no one takes
that verse literally.
By the way Bob, I do believe in God’s justice and I believe vengeance
belongs to God. I’m not one of those nicer than God persons.
Bob, I will donate $500 to Kgov.com if after re-reading these scriptures
your interpretation remains the same and you debate(discuss) this issue
on your program with me. If you accept my offer, E-mail me before any
Wednesday. I will mail M.O. that day or the next. I’m usually available
Weds to call or listen to your show. This will be my 2nd offer. The first
$500 offer was last march 29, 02 , topic: Hell, eternal punishment or
eternal punishing.
From the forum.
$500 Debate offer: Vengeance
« on: Jan 10th, 2003, 3:01pm » Quote Modify
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RE: Vengeance, Bob Enyart live 12/30/02.
Debate for truth offer: $500
CC : BobEnyartLive YahooGroup
Bob,
I listened to your show twice which aired 12/30/02. I was very sad to
hear you teaching a false doctrine while at the same time Misquoting
scripture(2:45min). As far as Christians going right to heaven when they
die, you repeat the same old Christian cliché's. I.E.: Absent from the
body, present with the lord. Only you reinforced the error on your
program by quoting the scripture this way, "...when your absent from the
body your present with the lord..." The proper quote is, "We are
confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to
be present with the Lord".
2Cor5:8(KJV). Most Christians conveniently leave out those two words,
Willing and Rather. I highly disagree with your interpretation and can
prove it by us walking through 2Cor5:1-10.
You then move over to Rev6:9 and imply these are literal Christians
crying out to God for revenge. Again Bob, I highly disagree with your
interpretation. I believe all the verses in Rev ch.6 are symbolic and it
should be no problem proving it. There are many problems with taking Rev
Ch.6 literal. One problem is, where are the rest of the Christians? These
Christians were killed for the Word. What about the millions who have
died of other causes. Another question that comes up is, why are these
Christians resting? Also, Why did John Identify these Christians as, "the
souls of them"?Why not identify them as, believers, the redeemed, the
resurrected, etc.? I have many more of these questions as I walk through
Rev ch.6 with its 6 seals. Gen 4:10 parallels Rev 6:9, yet no one takes
that verse literally.
By the way Bob, I do believe in God’s justice and I believe vengeance
belongs to God. I’m not one of those nicer than God persons.
Bob, I will donate $500 to Kgov.com if after re-reading these scriptures
your interpretation remains the same and you debate(discuss) this issue
on your program with me. If you accept my offer, E-mail me before any
Wednesday. I will mail M.O. that day or the next. I’m usually available
Weds to call or listen to your show. This will be my 2nd offer. The first
$500 offer was last march 29, 02 , topic: Hell, eternal punishment or
eternal punishing.
