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Your claim was that China deliberately helped spread the virus internationally. That they did this by allowing international flights out of Wuhan, even after they stopped domestic flights. I have shown that this is false. One of the proofs that I brought was the fact that special evacuation flights had to be organized, which makes no sense if regular flights were still running.
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see: https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...nally-for-covid-19-but-pushed-foreign-travel/

and

https://www.hudson.org/features/coronavirus


note in the latter, Jan 05, Jan 27
 
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"Since the beginning of the pandemic, China has been accused of multiple coverups. It has shifted its timeline on what it knew and when it knew it and has gone after critics, doctors and whistleblowers trying to sound the alarm."

https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-...s-intelligence


The bulk of the passengers, who were of multiple nationalities, arrived in January, at airports in Los Angeles; San Francisco; New York; Chicago; Seattle; Newark, New Jersey; and Detroit. Thousands of them flew directly from Wuhan, the center of the coronavirus outbreak, as American public health officials were only beginning to assess the risks to the United States.

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...campaign=cppst
 
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"Since the beginning of the pandemic, China has been accused of multiple coverups. It has shifted its timeline on what it knew and when it knew it and has gone after critics, doctors and whistleblowers trying to sound the alarm."

https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-...s-intelligence


The bulk of the passengers, who were of multiple nationalities, arrived in January, at airports in Los Angeles; San Francisco; New York; Chicago; Seattle; Newark, New Jersey; and Detroit. Thousands of them flew directly from Wuhan, the center of the coronavirus outbreak, as American public health officials were only beginning to assess the risks to the United States.

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...campaign=cppst
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And once again, nothing relevant to the question of China allowing international flights out of Wuhan after they shut down domestic flights. Instead of posting more and more irrelevant stuff, you could just admit that there is no such evidence.
 
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And once again, nothing relevant to the question of China allowing international flights out of Wuhan after they shut down domestic flights.
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Since Chinese officials disclosed the outbreak of a mysterious pneumonialike illness to international health officials on New Year’s Eve, at least 430,000 people have arrived in the United States on direct flights from China, including nearly 40,000 in the two months after President Trump imposed restrictions on such travel, according to an analysis of data collected in both countries. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/u...trictions.html

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Instead of posting more and more irrelevant stuff, you could just admit that there is no such evidence.
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You go against Trump for stupid stuff like his jokes. Pay attention to his policies and stop with your hateful defamation over idiotic stuff. Anyone from Israel or anyone who calls themselves a Jew, people who have been in prison unjustly, people dying of diseases and can't try some medicine as a last resort, those who love people addicted to drugs, ALL SHOULD EXAMINE YOUR HATEFUL SOULS if you go against Trump.
 
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Since Chinese officials disclosed the outbreak of a mysterious pneumonialike illness to international health officials on New Year’s Eve, at least 430,000 people have arrived in the United States on direct flights from China, including nearly 40,000 in the two months after President Trump imposed restrictions on such travel, according to an analysis of data collected in both countries. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/u...trictions.html
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None of this has anything at all to do with the false claim that international flights continued out of Wuhan after domestic flight were stopped.

It does show that US policy on flights during the beginning of the epidemic was flawed.
 
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None of this has anything at all to do with the false claim that international flights continued out of Wuhan after domestic flight were stopped.

It does show that US policy on flights during the beginning of the epidemic was flawed.
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So it took Trump to have people screened arriving from Wuhan, China BEFORE China locked down Wuhan? That doesn't seem a little odd to you that China sees the horrible condition Wuhan is in but Trump does something about their travels here before China does something about it?
By the way, China is not inexperienced either when it comes to the spreading of viruses.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/17/h...screening.html Published Jan. 17, 2020Updated Jan. 21, 2020
Airports in New York, San Francisco and Los Angeles will begin screening passengers arriving from Wuhan, China, for infection with a mysterious respiratory virus that has killed two people and sickened at least 45 overseas, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced on Friday.[END]

There are others besides Trump who say people left Wuhan and traveled internationally while taking measures to ensure the virus didn't spread across China.

One would think that Trump has knowledge that others don't from the secret service.

However, even if Trump made a mistake about saying China deliberately sent people from Wuhan while protecting China's other cites, it doesn't make him out to be a deceitful liar as you make him out to be.

This article among others show that many people believe that China let people from Wuhan leave on international flights:


https://english.alarabiya.net/en/fea...uring-outbreak
China may have allowed the new coronavirus to spread across the world by allowing international flights to and from Hubei province, the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak, while taking stronger measures to ensure the virus didn’t spread within China, according to the latest criticism of the country’s handling of the outbreak.
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Maybe it is all an innocent mistake that Trump made when he said China let people from Wuhan come here while they protected their cities inside China, and maybe it is innocent mistakes that China made the way they handled the virus.

Even if China didn't deliberately send people from Wuhan on international flights, it still makes one wonder why the virus didn't spread more in China like it did all over America.

Another thing to consider is that people from Wuhan were visiting in other places in China when the lock down of Wuhan occurred. How many were there and where did they go, did they leave on international flights?

https://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/...0012800791.htm

The second question is, you mentioned there is a sizeable number of Hubei residents already still in Hong Kong. Could you give us an idea of how many are there? Are there thousands, tens of thousands of them?

As far as the number of Hubei residents who have entered Hong Kong prior to yesterday, when the ban took effect, unfortunately in our usual immigration system, we did not capture those statistics. But, if anything is to go by, we only allow them to come in for seven days and according to Immigration, yesterday we denied entry of about 300-plus, so if you make that assumption, and people who have left, either back to the Mainland or using Hong Kong as a transit to other places, then the number would not be in the range of the tens of thousands that you have mentioned - certainly not of that magnitude.[END]
 
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Even if China didn't deliberately send people from Wuhan on international flights, it still makes one wonder why the virus didn't spread more in China like it did all over America.
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Because the Chinese bloody well handled it better than the US. As did Taiwan, New Zealand, Greece, and even Israel, where I live.
 
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Because the Chinese bloody well handled it better than the US. As did Taiwan, New Zealand, Greece, and even Israel, where I live.
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My county still has only 74 confirmed cases, zero deaths. And I've been back at work for a month and a half.
 
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When 5 million people LEFT WUHAN CHINA shortly before the lock down of that city---they were NOT allowed back into the city. Where do you think they went? Many flew out of China.

China KNEW people from WUHAN went on international flights AFTER the lock down.

5 million people left Wuhan before China quarantined the city to contain the coronavirus outbreak
https://www.businessinsider.com/5-mi...rantine-2020-1

The announcement comes as millions of people in China are already traveling across the country and overseas for Lunar New Year, which officially starts Jan. 25. There are direct flights several times a week from Wuhan to San Francisco and JFK airports, including one scheduled to arrive Friday in New York at 10 p.m.


About 60% of travelers on direct flights from China in February were not U.S. citizens, according to the most recently available government data. Most of the flights were operated by Chinese airlines after American carriers halted theirs.

Read more at:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...rts-screening/
 
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The Important thing here is that Trump did a great job dealing with the non-existent pandemic, and we can all blame the Chinese, even if there is zero evidence to show that they did this deliberately.

I wonder if the Chinese economy was hurt at all by this?
 
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