Trump: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

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Rusha

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Gowdy is a wing-nut, but given his background, I suspect he understands it perfectly well. His loud indignancy is for the cameras. The Justice Department exists to enforce the law. It doesn't exist to pursue the kind of politicized witch hunts DT and his enablers in Congress may demand. The only reason a special council would be appointed is if there is a good reason that a normal prosecutor couldn't. It's far better for an ordinary prosecutor to handle cases if at all possible. In this case, no actual crime has been articulated, and even if it were, there would be no reason that a regular career prosecutor couldn't handle the case.

It bears remembering that as long as it doesn't impact their work, a prosecutor's personal political opinions do not constitute a conflict of interest, as long as they do their job according to the law. I wonder if you think there's anyone who could possibly be neutral on the election.

You would think so ... however, we all know what this is really about. Trump and his band of misfits KNOW he is guilty and need to manufacture a reason to shut down the investigation.
 

SabathMoon

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You would think so ... however, we all know what this is really about. Trump and his band of misfits KNOW he is guilty and need to manufacture a reason to shut down the investigation.

When the republicans get over the shock, they will realize it isn't about them, but Trump's associates. Most have had their tax returns vetted.
 

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A majority of the people (from both parties) just had their wishes ignored by Republicans apparently indifferent to even the appearance of representation. So now we have an increasingly clear picture of who they're taking America back for. :plain: I use "who" because thanks to the Court corporations are people now.
 

patrick jane

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A majority of the people (from both parties) just had their wishes ignored by Republicans apparently indifferent to even the appearance of representation. So now we have an increasingly clear picture of who they're taking America back for. :plain: I use "who" because thanks to the Court corporations are people now.
Maybe corporations "identify" as people. :idunno:
 

SabathMoon

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A majority of the people (from both parties) just had their wishes ignored by Republicans apparently indifferent to even the appearance of representation. So now we have an increasingly clear picture of who they're taking America back for. :plain: I use "who" because thanks to the Court corporations are people now.
There are consequences for corporations supporting things that they shouldn't. It is called smaller profits.
 

Danoh

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You would think so ... however, we all know what this is really about. Trump and his band of misfits KNOW he is guilty and need to manufacture a reason to shut down the investigation.

What happened when that version of Trump's ever growing worse narcissism within New York's Organized Crime: Mob boss, John Gotti, was basically allowed by their kind to continue on his own path?

It continued to go to his head and in the end he brought himself down.

Has that not been the pattern throughout the eventual end history of many such an individual?

Look at all the people in all sorts of power presently falling like some huge line of dominoes it turns out they themselves had ever had a hand in its eventual blowing over.

And that is Trump's exact pattern throughout his long, corrupt, incompetent, ever eventually self-destructive business life.

In the end he himself will do once more what his blind supporters and corrupt swamp pals have refused to: expose himself for the fraud he is, in one more great, sinking Titanic of a show.

Move over Richard Nixon.

Even here on TOL, it is ever obvious that the worse that can happen to an individual allowed his or her continued dishonesty, is exactly the worse that can happen to him or her.

Power corrupting, and so on.

Personally, I find the whole thing fascinating.

One has to be both subjective and yet objective.

Something that neither blindly loving, nor just as blindly hating such an individual, ever allows a good balance of.

In contrast to the obviously ever in the moment subjectivity of the typical Trump supporter; which is why there is no reasoning with them.

Ask those who no longer support him; the man's continued deepening, drowning in his ever in the moment subjective invention of reality has literally shaken them to their core; has literally slapped them in the face with a good dose of objectivity.

And that is actually a good thing.

As is par for the course for his continuing fool base. Those I also know among them who have remained blind to their own their blind loyalty to him, had always been that kind of blind long before Trump came along, to begin with.
 

Danoh

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Every wreel of that show should be destroyed. Any video tapes and dvds of it should be also incinerated.

Are you kidding - Trump IS Gilligan.

Thank God for me, the Professor to straighten everyone out on that :chuckle:

Tell ya what; you can guess star more often - as that bad Italian actor who used to guest star on that island as a long lost Japanese soldier left over from World War II. :D
 

SabathMoon

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Are you kidding - Trump IS Gilligan.

Thank God for me, the Professor to straighten everyone out on that :chuckle:

Tell ya what; you can guess star more often - as that bad Italian actor who used to guest star on that island as a long lost Japanese soldier left over from World War II. :D
Every wreel of that show should be destroyed. Any video tapes and dvds of it should be also incinerated.
 

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A majority of the people (from both parties) just had their wishes ignored by Republicans apparently indifferent to even the appearance of representation. So now we have an increasingly clear picture of who they're taking America back for. :plain: I use "who" because thanks to the Court corporations are people now.

Gee that's old news since about 1933, that closet just got to full as of late so even the District of Columbia Citizen is starting to wake up to the bread and circus their born into.
 

WizardofOz

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Good: Tax cuts for nearly everyone in the country

Bad: Increased spending combined with tax cuts

Ugly: Three provisions in the bill violated the Byrd Rule forcing the revote today
 

The Barbarian

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Ugly: Three provisions in the bill violated the Byrd Rule forcing the revote today

That's the consequence of keeping everyone but a few extremists from taking part in drafting the bill. They know what they want, but they don't understand the law or the rules by which Congress works.

So they keep walking into walls.

That mass of writing dumped on our congressmen at the last moment probably has a huge number of problems, but there were no republicans or democrats with any competence in the process of drafting it.

However, Trump did get the massive tax break for himself that he was demanding. Fortune magazine reports:

Trump’s Reform Plan Is All About Cutting Taxes—For Trump
President Donald Trump seeks to sell his tax plan to a skeptical public by presenting it as an effort to “unrig” the tax code. He has said that his plan would “get rid of the loopholes and complexity that primarily benefit the wealthiest Americans and special interests.” He has even hinted that his own taxes would go up under his plan.

Behind Trump’s rhetoric, however, is his actual agenda. A look at that agenda shows that Trump is not unrigging the tax code for you. He is trying to rig the tax code for Donald Trump and give himself a huge tax cut.

One of the biggest and most costly proposals in the Trump-GOP tax plan is a giant new loophole for wealthy business owners like Trump himself.

It would create a special, preferential tax rate for income from so-called “pass through” businesses, such as partnerships, S-corporations (privately held corporations that elect to be taxed as partnerships), and limited liability companies (LLCs). These entities don’t pay the corporate tax; instead, their owners pay taxes on their share of the business’s profits at their personal tax rates, which currently top out at 39.6% for the highest-income individuals. The Trump-GOP plan carves out a special new provision that would reportedly cap the rate on income from pass through businesses at 25%. (Trump’s original plan capped it at just 15%.)

http://fortune.com/2017/09/26/donald-trump-gop-tax-reform-plan/
 
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