toldailytopic: Obama is asking to spend another 1.2 trillion $$, where does all this

[Nathon Detroit]

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toldailytopic: Obama is asking to spend another 1.2 trillion $$, where does all this spending end?

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[some other dude]

I'd like to say "with him getting booted out of office in 2012", but I have no expectations that a Republican President will do any better.

 

[Nathon Detroit]

Does it end like this....

 

[Nathon Detroit]

I'm curious... are there any TOL'ers out there that think spending more money is a good idea? Anyone think Obama is making a good decision here?

 

[Newman]

The spending ends when the ideological landscape of the US changes from "government can and should" to "government can't and shouldn't".

 

[Nathon Detroit]

The spending ends when the ideological landscape of the US changes from "government can and should" to "government can't and shouldn't".

Well... that isn't going to happen. But there is another way that spending will end, and that's when we reach the tipping point when we collapse under our own debt.

That point is coming quickly. What will happen then?

 

[Newman]

Well... that isn't going to happen. But there is another way that spending will end, and that's when we reach the tipping point when we collapse under our own debt.

That point is coming quickly. What will happen then?

Hopefully people will understand the problem before that happens, but you're right. That very well might not happen.

If not, we're in for some bad, bad times. The dollar will become worthless. If some other country doesn't buy us out, (and maybe even then) we'll have riots in the street, violence, starvation, desperation, and all sorts of social unrest.

 

[ghost]

I believe Obama is intent on facilitating a crisis in order to create a position of dictatorship. There may very well be no election forthcoming.

 

[annabenedetti]

From 2008:

Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis

 

[Stripe]

One world government.

All it has to do is Say it opposes communism, call itself democratic and most everyone will go along with it - especially if it means a bailout.

 

[Stripe]

I believe Obama is intent on facilitating a crisis in order to create a position of dictatorship. There may very well be no election forthcoming.

Now that's just silly. No election? What would they do instead?

 

[Nathon Detroit]

I believe Obama is intent on facilitating a crisis in order to create a position of dictatorship. There may very well be no election forthcoming.

It certainly seems that way doesn't it?

Obama destroys our economy and brings it to the point of no return and ushers in a full-blown socialist dictatorship to "save" the day.

Does our country still have enough of a spirit of freedom and liberty to fight back? :idunno:

 

[ghost]

From 2008:

Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis

What is the focus of that article? I don't have time to read it today.

 

[ghost]

It certainly seems that way doesn't it?

Obama destroys our economy and brings it to the point of no return and ushers in a full-blown socialist dictatorship to "save" the day.

Does our country still have enough of a spirit of freedom and liberty to fight back? :idunno:

I'm counting on vegascowboy to save the day.

:AoO:

 

[some other dude]

Without a beard?

Unpossible.

 

[some other dude]

From anna's link:

Before the 1994 Republican takeover, Democrats had sixty years of virtually unbroken power in Congress - with substantial majorities most of the time. Can a group of smart people, studying issue after issue for years on end, with virtually unlimited resources at their command, not come up with a single policy that works? Why are they chronically incapable?


Why?


One of two things must be true. Either the Democrats are unfathomable idiots, who ignorantly pursue ever more destructive policies despite decades of contrary evidence, or they understand the consequences of their actions and relentlessly carry on anyway because they somehow benefit.

 

[PureX]

I'm curious... are there any TOL'ers out there that think spending more money is a good idea? Anyone think Obama is making a good decision here?

It's the only decision that can be made. It costs a lot of money to run a country. The money has to come from somewhere. Half the nation's wealth is being tied up by people who have bribed their way out of paying taxes on it, and that leaves the whole burden to fall on everyone else. But the rest of us can't afford to pay it. We don't have the money. So the government has to borrow it.

The solution is to stop the legalized bribery and make the wealthy pay their taxes again. Then stop borrowing money at interest to meet our budget needs. Instead, we can print the money we need interest free. Doing so would get us out of debt in just a few years. But the stranglehold that the wealthy have on government is now so complete that none of these things can happen. They don't WANT anything fixed. They're raking in record profits just as things are, and they don't really care who is suffering from it.

While you idiots are all busy blaming the "liberals" and some imaginary hoard of do-nothing welfare parasites, the rich are systematically robbing you blind. And you're helping them do it.

No president, Obama or anyone else, can do a thing about any of this when half of the nation's population are still supporting the very criminals that are destroying it.

 

[HisServant]

It's the only decision that can be made. It costs a lot of money to run a country. The money has to come from somewhere. Half the nation's wealth is being tied up by people who have bribed their way out of paying taxes on it, and that leaves the whole burden to fall on everyone else. But the rest of us can't afford to pay it. We don't have the money. So the government has to borrow it.

The solution is to stop the legalized bribery and make the wealthy pay their taxes again. Then stop borrowing money at interest to meet our budget needs. Instead, we can print the money we need interest free. Doing so would get us out of debt in just a few years. But the stranglehold that the wealthy have on government is now so complete that none of these things can happen. They don't WANT anything fixed. They're raking in record profits just as things are, and they don't really care who is suffering from it.

While you idiots are all busy blaming the "liberals" and some imaginary hoard of do-nothing welfare parasites, the rich are systematically robbing you blind. And you're helping them do it.

No president, Obama or anyone else, can do a thing about any of this when half of the nation's population are still supporting the very criminals that are destroying it.

Demonizing the rich is nothing more than scapegoat-ism.. and pretty immature.

Printing money leads to inflation, which makes the poor even poorer.

 

[some other dude]

More:

The vast expansion of welfare in New York City that came of the NWRO's Cloward-Piven tactics sent the city into bankruptcy in 1975. Rudy Giuliani cited Cloward and Piven by name as being responsible for "an effort at economic sabotage." He also credited Cloward-Piven with changing the cultural attitude toward welfare from that of a temporary expedient to a lifetime entitlement, an attitude which in-and-of-itself has caused perhaps the greatest damage of all.

 

[Lighthouse]

I wonder why they didn't occupy Pennsylvania Ave.