toldailytopic: Is it always wrong to kill another human?

[Nathon Detroit]

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toldailytopic: Is it always wrong to kill another human?

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[Rusha]

No, it is not. Under certain circumstances, such as *actual* self defense and capital punishment, it is preferred.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Kill no, murder yes.

 

[PureX]

toldailytopic: Is it always wrong to kill another human?

Yes, it is always wrong.

Sadly, however, it is sometimes necessary.

 

[Lighthouse]

toldailytopic: Is it always wrong to kill another human?

No.

There is what Rusha said, and also immediate defense of a helpless innocent.

But only if the dead person truly deserves to die.

Yes, it is always wrong.

Sadly, however, it is sometimes necessary.

I don't even know where to begin on the ignorance of this viewpoint.

 

[resurrected]

toldailytopic: Is it always wrong to kill another human?

Not according to God

 

[PureX]

I don't even know where to begin on the ignorance of this viewpoint.

"Thou shalt not kill". What's so confusing?

And I didn't read anything about Jesus killing anyone in "self defense", or the defense of others, either.

 

[Rusha]

"Thou shalt not kill". What's so confusing?

And I didn't read anything about Jesus killing anyone in "self defense", or the defense of others, either.

I always understood that to mean *murder*. There is a huge difference between killing VS. murdering.

 

[Silent Hunter]

I always understood that to mean *murder*. There is a huge difference between killing VS. murdering.

How so?

 

[bybee]

"Thou shalt not kill". What's so confusing?

And I didn't read anything about Jesus killing anyone in "self defense", or the defense of others, either.

As far as we know He didn't get married either.
And He did say "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's..."

 

[PureX]

I always understood that to mean *murder*. There is a huge difference between killing VS. murdering.

Perhaps you understood it incorrectly. It doesn't say, after all, "Thou shalt kill only those thou thinks deserve killing". And there are no examples given of Jesus committing violence against anyone in defense of himself or anyone else. Just the opposite. When people came to kill him, he stopped those who would have defended him.

 

[resurrected]

"Thou shalt not kill". What's so confusing?

All those parts in there that say the punishment for murder or adultery or rape or bestiality or sodomy , etc, etc, etc is.....

death

 

[Rusha]

How so?

Killing can be justified ... murder cannot. There is a huge difference in utilizing the DP to put down dogs such as Richard Allen Davis and Ted Bundy as compared to the actions which put them on death row. The MURDER of their victims.

The deaths of those men and those like them protects society and other innocents.

 

[bybee]

Perhaps you understood it incorrectly. It doesn't say, after all, "Thou shalt kill only those thou thinks deserve killing".

Well, we could just stand still and let people rob us, rape us, assault us, murder us and our loved one's?
My life is more precious to me than preserving the life of someone out to harm me.

 

[Rusha]

Perhaps you understood it incorrectly. It doesn't say, after all, "Thou shalt kill only those thou thinks deserve killing".

Nope ... no misunderstanding on my part. ANYONE who rapes, murders or molests a child is deserving of death.

Do you have a reason to why it would be better to keep such threats alive?

 

[PureX]

Nope ... no misunderstanding on my part. ANYONE who rapes, murders or molests a child is deserving of death.

I don't see how that becomes your decision to make.

 

[resurrected]

I don't see how that becomes your decision to make.

And yet you claim the right to make your decision not to apply capital punishment based on.....???

 

[Rusha]

I don't see how that becomes your decision to make.

Unless they are actually trying to harm ME or one of my loved ones while breaking into *my* home, it doesn't. Unless, of course, I am a juror on a DP case.

Why is it your decision to allow them to continue to live so they have an opportunity to harm or kill others?

 

[Uberpod1]

Kill no, murder yes.

What semantic fun. Helps with the circular reasoning.

 

[PureX]

Well, we could just stand still and let people rob us, rape us, assault us, murder us and our loved one's?
My life is more precious to me than preserving the life of someone out to harm me.

You can do whatever you want. That was never the issue. Even the criminals do whatever they want. But then how are you any different from a criminal?

The idea I disagree with is the idea that the sins of others somehow justify our own. When Jesus came upon the adulteress he didn't dispute her guilt. But he did point out to those who sought to punish her for her sins that they were guilty of plenty of sins of their own. And by this reasoning he stopped them from carrying out their intended punishment.

God has not appointed us to judge, condemn, or punish anyone else. In fact, He denied us this 'privilege' so long we are still guilty of our own sins. And who among us is not guilty of our own sins?