SaulToPaul 2
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What does "the land that I gave to Jacob, wherein your fathers dwelt" mean?
Where did Ezekiel and Israel's fathers dwell?
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What does "the land that I gave to Jacob, wherein your fathers dwelt" mean?
Where did Ezekiel and Israel's fathers dwell?
Nang
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This literal promise has a two-fold application: first earthly, secondly spiritually.
Your literalist hermenuetics leaves you ignorant of more than half of the revelation of the Holy Scriptures.
The literal land of Israel points to the new heavens and new earth in which all the saints of God will abide with Christ, without end.
SaulToPaul 2
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Where did Ezekiel and Israel's fathers dwell?
Nang
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In the promised land that points to Christ's inheritance of a Kingdom.
Do you allow for any typology in your bible studies at all?
SaulToPaul 2
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How long does the passage say they will dwell in that land?
Nang
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Forever.
Which proves this promise will be fulfilled spiritually in Christ's Kingdom which has no end.
You seem to think that this promise must be fulfilled on this earth, which is going to be destroyed by fire. How could that be so?
musterion
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There you go, taking God at His Word again. If you legalists would quit straining so hard to see truth in what He said, your mind would be open to being shown the deeper truths in what He didn't say.
And in the cross of Christ that points to Christ's "steppin' it up," as "there is no tomorrow!!!!"
Do you allow for any typology in your bible studies at all?
So there. Nice rabbit trail, Naggy...Nice...
Wick Stick
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I'm not interested in taking up the preterist flag on this, or quibbling over a specific passage.
You were the one who zoomed out on this argument, asking "Why are only some prophecies fulfilled literally, but others are given the magic wand treatment?"
That's a question worth my time. Whether a random chapter in Ezekiel is spiritual, allegorical, literal, or typological - is not.
[insert random comment about lack of chin or arm-strength here]
There's no magic. It's not very difficult to understand all of biblical prophecy. I do.
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Interplanner
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It's not difficult because there are 2500 uses of the OT by the NT and D'ism is usually unfamiliar and/or in denial of what the NT says.
themuzicman
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Ezekiel is about return from exile.
SaulToPaul 2
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Yes, but not the one you think.
Ezekiel only spoke of one exile.
He slept on his sides for only one exile.
Ezekiel was part of THE exile.
It's mind boggling what you guys do to scripture sometimes.
SaulToPaul 2
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themuzicman
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It's about the one Ezekiel was aware of, and the one in which the people to whom he was writing were enduring.
No, the captives in Babylon returned to Judah after 70 years of exile.
That's who Ezekiel was referring to.
SaulToPaul 2
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You claim it was fulfilled in Christ Jesus.
The exiled Jews returned to Judah circa 539BC.
They remained there until 70AD.
There is no future return of exiles, as there are no exiles today.
SaulToPaul 2
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You claim Ezekiel 37 was fulfilled in Christ Jesus.