There was war in heaven and Satan and his angels were cast out - Revelation 12

[beameup]

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceives the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. - Revelation 12:7-9

fulfilled?
unfulfilled?
somewhere in between?

 

[Tambora]

OK.

 

[TrevorL]

Greetings beameup,

fulfilled?
unfulfilled?
somewhere in between?

One suggestion is that this is symbolic language representing the overthrow of the Pagan Roman System and replacing it with the Apostate Christian System by Constantine in AD 312. If this is the case then the answer is: Fulfilled.

Kind regards
Trevor

 

[Lazy afternoon]

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceives the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. - Revelation 12:7-9

fulfilled?
unfulfilled?
somewhere in between?

The verses teach the throwing out of satans servants from among the saints on earth.

and this begins the last 3.5 years before Christ returns.

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Which of course means the one world church will return to its former killing of any who would dare speak against it,

(Using the governments)

LA

 

[ThreeAngels]

The verses teach the throwing out of satans servants from among the saints on earth.

and this begins the last 3.5 years before Christ returns.

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Which of course means the one world church will return to its former killing of any who would dare speak against it,

(Using the governments)

LA

No the verses teach the literal casting out of Satan by Jesus ie Michael from heaven. The three and a half years are prophetic not literal. In a prophetic year each day stands for a year see Num 14:34 and Ezek 4:5. So 3.5 years stands for 1260 years because 1 solar year has 360 days. This time period is in the past. Satan, through the Catholic church, persecuted the saints starting in 538 AD. This time period ended in 1798. Satan will yet 'make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.' There is one church only brought to view here and that is the Seventh Day Adventist church. It is the only one which has the faith of Jesus and keeps the commandments of God. This time Satan's agents in persecuting God's people will not only be the Catholics but also the Protestants.

 

[jamie]

There is one church only brought to view here and that is the Seventh Day Adventist church.

Presumptuous, I reject that. Elijah also thought he was the only one left of God's people.

God corrected him. Are you open to correction?

 

[ThreeAngels]

Presumptuous, I reject that. Elijah also thought he was the only one left of God's people.

God corrected him. Are you open to correction?

I am but the position is sure. I'm not saying that all Adventists will be saved- only a few will. The great body of God's honest children is still in the nominal churches including the Catholic church. Before the 7 last plagues are poured, there will be a call from God for them to come out of Babylon. This is revealed in the words, "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." Rev 18:4

 

[Caino]

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceives the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. - Revelation 12:7-9

fulfilled?
unfulfilled?
somewhere in between?

Michael, aka Jesus of Nazareth, terminated the Lucifer rebellion while on earth just prior to the beginning of his public preaching. Lucifer, Satan and the rebels were taken into custody. Prince Caligastia, the fallen "prince of this world" aka "The Crafty Beast" was neutered but left here until his fate was determined. Lucifer and Satan were detained on a detention sphere, they will be destroyed, gone, erased as that is the fate they chose.

The surviving fragments of the Book of Revelation are part retrospective concerning the ideological rebellion initiated by Lucifer against the rule of the unseen heavenly Father in the Son.

And what does this war in heaven reveal? Sin isn't confined to earth. The evil one fell in heaven.

 

[ricardo574]

Isn't or wasn't?

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[patrick jane]

Michael, aka Jesus of Nazareth, terminated the Lucifer rebellion while on earth just prior to the beginning of his public preaching. Lucifer, Satan and the rebels were taken into custody. Prince Caligastia, the fallen "prince of this world" aka "The Crafty Beast" was neutered but left here until his fate was determined. Lucifer and Satan were detained on a detention sphere, they will be destroyed, gone, erased as that is the fate they chose.

The surviving fragments of the Book of Revelation are part retrospective concerning the ideological rebellion initiated by Lucifer against the rule of the unseen heavenly Father in the Son.

And what does this war in heaven reveal? Sin isn't confined to earth. The evil one fell in heaven.

You are really messed up -

 

[beameup]

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer ["shining one"], son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! - Isaiah 14:12

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. - Revelation 12:9

Clearly, this hasn't FULLY materialized yet.
Just how many "fallen angels" does Satan have? (think "stars")

 

[ThreeAngels]

Michael ie Jesus cast Satan out of heaven. This event occurred before the foundation of the earth.

 

[jamie]

Michael ie Jesus cast Satan out of heaven.

Jesus is the Christ and the Christ created Michael.

 

[ThreeAngels]

Jesus is the Christ and the Christ created Michael.

Michael is another name for Jesus. Jesus has several names and titles in the Bible.

 

[jamie]

Michael is another name for Jesus. Jesus has several names and titles in the Bible.

Jude 9 Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”​

Michael is an angel and Jesus is the Christ referred to as the Lord.

 

[ThreeAngels]

Jude 9 Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”​

Michael is an angel and Jesus is the Christ referred to as the Lord.

Michael, ie Jesus, raised Moses from the dead. Only God has power to resurrect the dead. He then refers the devil to His Father. During His crucifixion Jesus referred to His Father as, "My God." There is no inconsistency there.

 

[jamie]

Do you believe Jesus is the Christ, the King of Israel?

 

[Ktoyou]

Jesus is the Christ and the Christ created Michael.

You seem to have changed your position. Here you are saying, correctly, Jesus is Christ and He was divine. Before you said Jesus was not the Christ and was only human. Which position do you hold?

You are either Christian. Therefore believe Jesus is divine, or
You are Jewish, believing Jesus was not Christ, or divine, just a prophet, or
You are confused, thinking it better to identify as Christian, yet hold Jewish belief?

 

[beameup]

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. - Revelation 12:7-8

When the Rapture occurs, there will be no "place found any more in heaven" for Satan and his angels. They will "materialize" upon the earth to deceive mankind.

 

[ThreeAngels]

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceives the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. - Revelation 12:7-9

fulfilled?
unfulfilled?
somewhere in between?

Fulfilled. Satan has already been cast out of heaven, see Revelation 12:12, "...Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time." Satan has no more a place in heaven. He has been in the earth for the past six thousand years, continuing his work of rebellion.