God and Christ are different.
Jesus is the Son of God so Jesus the Christ is God (meaning He has Deity).
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Jesus is the Son of God so Jesus the Christ is God (meaning He has Deity).
yeah, i remember now. you don't agree with keypur, but you also don't think Jesus is God. just like kyperr. i know what The Bible tells us and we disagree on certain details. no biggy -
I believe Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.yeah, i remember now. you don't agree with keypur, but you also don't think Jesus is God. just like kyperr. i know what The Bible tells us and we disagree on certain details. no biggy -
but yes, Christ is Spirit, with God. The Messiah. i get it. semantics and definitions don't do anything for me. what we try to define is beyond definition. even with HD
No, Christ is not Spirit, and there is a spirit of Christ which is not the same as the person Jesus Christ.
ok:king:
You say Jesus is God and Jesus says his God is God.
I've got to figure out who to believe.
PureX
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Of course it is. The text doesn't even make any sense any other way. And it creates the foundation for the Christian message. What's confusing is that god's wisdom is often referred to as a being in sacred texts (as "he" or "she"). In this case both the term "word" and the "he" reference are referring to this 'logos". To God's divine wisdom/plan, from which all creation becomes manifested, and through which all things find their purpose.
I find it hard to think of God having to have his dirty diapers changed. It's much easier for me to think of Jesus as the Son of God initially dependent on his parents for his survival.
that's hilarious. very logical thinking. you'll never get it :king:
John 1:1,2 - John 1:14 - read that and believe it. don't take anyone elses word for it:chew:
Are you claiming that Jesus was God's word from the beginning of creation?
When the prophets said that the word of YHVH came to them do you believe that was Jesus traveling back in time?
Sheila B
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You sound like you are trying to deal with the 2 natures in Christ: human (flesh son) and divine (spirit son). There are two natures in Christ. The Second Person of the Holy Trinity took on human flesh. As you say, the express image of the Father "became flesh".
No, the express image, or rather the exact representation of the Father, is Jesus.
Sheila B
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Right, that is what I meant: The Second Person of the Trinity is the exact representation of the Father (same essence) and became flesh and "And you shall call his name Jesus". "And she shall bear a son and you shall call his name Jesus, for he shall save his people from their sins."
Jesus is the Christ and He was born the Son of God.
keypurr
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No, Jesus (a man) is the express image of God (who is Spirit). One translation says He is the exact representation of His (God's) Being.
Remember that Jesus said if you have seen me you have seen the Father? Was that to say that Jesus never violated God's commands and that everything He did was completely consistent with God's character?
keypurr
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God is NOT a man, God is a spirit.
Joh_4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth
keypurr
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Then he is NOT the EXPRESS IMAGE.
The EXPRESS IMAGE was IN Jesus. It became flesh by being IN Jesus.