The US Murder Rate Is on Track to Be Lowest in a Century
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Here's a link to an article on the topic of lead toxicity: http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/01/lead-crime-link-gasoline
We humans like to think that we have free will and full self-determinism. We tend to be quick to condemn other people and label them as "evil" when they do something wrong. Some of them may in fact be "evil," but it is also true that there are many things in our environment that can influence and even control our behavior, often without our slightest awareness of it. In this case you bring up, lead toxicity may have been the driving factor in causing some otherwise sane and decent people to commit heinous crimes such as murder.
Clair Patterson, the geochemist who discovered the age of the earth to be approximately 4.55 billion years old by using lead isotopic data from the Canyon Diablo meteorite, also discovered that lead from gasoline was building up in the environment--and in our bodies. It is thanks in large part to his efforts that lead has been removed from gasoline, paint, and other sources. Lead toxicity is unquestionably a direct cause of aberrant behavior in people who have been infected by it.
We humans like to think that we have free will and full self-determinism. We tend to be quick to condemn other people and label them as "evil" when they do something wrong. Some of them may in fact be "evil," but it is also true that there are many things in our environment that can influence and even control our behavior, often without our slightest awareness of it. In this case you bring up, lead toxicity may have been the driving factor in causing some otherwise sane and decent people to commit heinous crimes such as murder.
Clair Patterson, the geochemist who discovered the age of the earth to be approximately 4.55 billion years old by using lead isotopic data from the Canyon Diablo meteorite, also discovered that lead from gasoline was building up in the environment--and in our bodies. It is thanks in large part to his efforts that lead has been removed from gasoline, paint, and other sources. Lead toxicity is unquestionably a direct cause of aberrant behavior in people who have been infected by it.
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republicanchick
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which makes the HUGE increase in murder in Baltimore and other big cities
all the more troubling
thanks "protesters," rioters and looters..
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all the more troubling
thanks "protesters," rioters and looters..
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Moral progress and how things are becoming better and better in the world and in the US in particular:
The article posits the lead exposure in childhood leads to violence hypothesis to explain the trend:
Thats not why, its because many agencies lie about their crime stats, especially areas that count on tourism.
Moral progress and how things are becoming better and better in the world and in the US in particular:
The article posits the lead exposure in childhood leads to violence hypothesis to explain the trend:
not in St. Louis city - :mmph:
what about Fluoride ?
Fluoride contributes to calcification of the pineal gland, which has various consequences. See this link for more info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland#Calcification
Define "moral progress".
BTW, it must be disheartening for you gun control advocates to read the following:
U.N. Maps Show U.S. High In Gun Ownership, Low In Homicides
http://www.ammoland.com/2013/02/u-n...gun-ownership-low-in-homicides/#axzz3bxu9yO42
musterion
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republicanchick
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This is NOT true
crime is increasing everywhere in the US
and we all know why:
because people are getting further and further away from Jesus and His commandments. And yes, it is as simple as that.. OR people think that Jesus just forgives everything so it's OK to do just anything... morons.. but there are people who lie to themselves like that
The Bible says that even the just are barely saved... barely saved...
St Paul said that it is necessary that we undergo many hardships in order to enter Heaven
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crime is increasing everywhere in the US
and we all know why:
because people are getting further and further away from Jesus and His commandments. And yes, it is as simple as that.. OR people think that Jesus just forgives everything so it's OK to do just anything... morons.. but there are people who lie to themselves like that
The Bible says that even the just are barely saved... barely saved...
St Paul said that it is necessary that we undergo many hardships in order to enter Heaven
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And thats another reason reporting is off. Some cities don't want to look like they have a black crime problem or an illegal immigrant crime problem
Where's your data showing that murders are up?
The claim was murder is down. National stats collected by the states says this is true.
musterion
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Wow - you are so racist for stating the stats (which are actually much higher, low reporting misses a lot of them) shame on you!
Tinark
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He's racist for botching basic math to make black crime against whites look so much worse. Can you spot the basic math fail? This is a very basic test of your logic skills, so I want to see if you can determine the glaring hole before I point it out.
Tinark
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Why would crime victims lie about the crimes committed against them (as we have crime victimization surveys to rely upon)? Why would they care about tourism? More importantly, why would they be lying _more frequently_ today compared to the past? If a similar percent lie today as lied in the past, then the trends would still be valid.
How are the cities able to get the forensic examiners to lie about the causes of death in the case of murder victims?
Do you have any evidence for either of these two things, that it is coming from something other than your pure imagination?
Um no, seems you dont read the news.
Heres one example of many - its called google, use it.
Im sure this article since its from huffington post will suit your liberal sensibilities, but there are loads of others from cities all across america where this has been happening for some time, especially very liberal cities, who want to "protect" minorities from feeling bad, and or to not look bad to potential tourists or both.
Manufacturing Low Crime Rates at the NYPD: Reputation Versus Safety Under Bloomberg and Kelly
read more at link.
Chicago does it all the time too, and those were just a quick easy search away. Tons of cities do it these days.
So are the libbies lying about the crime stats or lying about the crimes? (hint: both)
Tinark
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City reports aren't the only source of data. In fact, I just named the other primary source of data in the post you are responding to: crime victimization surveys.
Another source of data I didn't mention: criminal conviction data, which is public record and not subject to interpretation or massaging.
Why did you just repeat your same point without addressing mine?