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the ten horns are the ten islamic dynasties
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the ten horns are the ten islamic dynasties
was, and is not, and yet is
This is from chapter 17 verse 8 of the Apocalypse and it is very significant in that it ties together Satan of chapter 20, the dragon of chapter 12, the beasts of chapter 13, and the seven heads and ten horns of chapter 17.
Revelation 17:8 (KJV)
8The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
In chapter 13:12 the first beast is mortally wounded and replaced by the second one. In chapter 17 we have the beast that was, is not, and yet to come along with the five kings that were, the one that is, and the one that is yet to come. We should pay attention to any historical events that might fit this.
John is told that 5 of the 7 kings represented by the 7 heads had already fallen, while one existed at that time, and the 7th was yet to come. The scarlet-colored wild beast itself is an 8th king but springs from or is a product of the previous 7. Scholars understand the heads (or kings) to represent world powers, as in the book of Daniel. It's interesting that the Bible names 5 of the world powers:
Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, and Greece
heads are not beasts
the seven heads all belonged to one beast
Did I say that the heads were individual beasts?
The scarlet-colored wild beast itself is an 8th king but springs from or is a product of the previous 7.
REVELATION 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
REVELATION 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
MARK 15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
dynasties are kings
Kings are kings. 5 are, 1 is and 1 is yet to come as of the time the pertinent words were penned.
I guess that depends upon your chosen eschatology, doesn't it?
everything depends on the choices we make
just one more piece of the puzzle
The ten horns or ten kings have received no power as yet but receive power for one hour or the last hour with the beast Rev. 17:12. They haven't even come to power yet so how could they possibly be in the history books!!!
Chrys ignores inconvenient details, as they impede his harebrained theories.
The ten horns or ten kings have received no power as yet but receive power for one hour or the last hour with the beast Rev. 17:12. They haven't even come to power yet so how could they possibly be in the history books!!!
they are in the history books
-your interpretation of scripture is preventing you from recognizing that