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BoyStan

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Jesus is God the Father come as a son to give us the new covenant, and then to die for the new covenant.

We go through Jesus to get to the Father because of what Jesus did. God and Jesus are one and the same. When you are saved, you receive the Holy Spirit who is the Father and the Son. When you see Jesus one day, will you wonder when you will see the Father? Jesus says when you see him you see the Father.

Seems you are saying there is no trinity ?
In heaven I will be with Jesus, the saints and the holy angels!
I do wonder about seeing the Father.
But then I know that God will reveal all the surpassing glory he has for his saints. Praise the Father in Jesus name.
 

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My last reply for you was #21
You fix this post:By moving your response to after the last quote tag, not before.
 

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Seems you are saying there is no trinity ?
I believe there are three, just not the way the trinity doctrine says.
I believe God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are all the same.
Where are they ever different in what is said? Where is it ever different in the work?
In heaven I will be with Jesus, the saints and the holy angels!
I do wonder about seeing the Father.

See John 14:7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."

John 14:9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?


Did you read that how Jesus says don't you know me?


John 12:45 The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me.

But then I know that God will reveal all the surpassing glory he has for his saints. Praise the Father in Jesus name.

Amen.
 

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Like your BLAH!
Have you ever read John's gospel?

Have you ever read the four Gospels?

Jesus' ministry is almost entirely self-centered.

From the above link:

Follow Me” 19x Mt. 4:19; 8:22; 10:38; 16:24; 19:21; Mk. 1:17; 2:14; 8:34; 10:21; Lk. 5:27; 9:59; 18:22; Jn. 1:43; 8:12; 10:27; 12:26; 13:36; 21:19, 22
Pray and act “in My name” 18x Mt. 7:22; 18:5; 18:20; [24:5]; Mk. 9:37, 39, 41; [13:6]; Lk. 9:48; [21:8]; 24:47; Jn. 14:13?14; 15:16; 16:23?24, 26; Acts 9:15
“the Holy Spirit” comes “in My name” Jn. 14:26
“for My name’s sake” leave family and property Mt. 19:29; or even be killed 5x Mt. 24:9; [Lk. 21:12, 17;] Jn. 15:21; Acts 9:16
Believe in the “name of the… Son” and “in the Son” 3x Jn. 3:18, 36; 9:35 and “in Him [Jesus]” 4x Jn. 3:18; 6:29, 40; 8:31
“believe in Me” 14x Mt. 18:6; Mk. 9:42; Jn. 3:15?16, 18; 6:35, 47; 7:38; 11:25, 26; 12:44, 46; 14:1, 12; 16:8; 17:20
You “are sanctified by faith in Me” Acts 26:18
Live “in Me” Jn. 11:26
“come after Me” Mk. 8:34; Lk. 14:27
Abide “in Me” Jn. 15:2, 4:5, 7 “abide in Me” or else Jn. 15:6 “abide in My love” Jn. 15:9?10
“where two or three are gathered” Jesus is “there in the midst of them” Mt. 18:20
So too: “I [Jesus, will abide] in you” Jn. 15:4?5
“know that I am He” Jn. 8:28 or “if you do not believe that I am He you will die in your sins” Jn. 8:24
Do things “for My sake” Mt. 10:22, 39; even lose your life “for My sake” 4x Mt. 16:25; Mk. 8:35; 10:29; Lk. 6:22
“I never knew you, depart from Me” Mt. 7:23
“I am willing; be cleansed” Mt. 8:3; Mk.. 1:41
”confess Me” Mt. 10:32; Lk. 12:8
Do not deny “Me” 7x Mt. 10:33; 26:34; Mk. 14:30, 72; Lk. 12:9; 22:34; Jn. 13:38
Do not be “ashamed of Me” Mk. 8:38; Lk. 9:26 nor "My words"
“love Me” 5x Jn. 14:15, 21, 23?24, 28
Do not reject “Me” Lk. 10:16; Jn. 12:48
“He who is not with Me is against Me” Lk. 11:23
Love Me “more than” your family members Mt. 10:37; [Lk. 14:26]
“I… have loved you” Jn. 15:9, 12
Be “worthy of Me” Mt. 10:37?38
“Come to Me” 5x Mt. 11:28; Lk. 6:47; Jn. 5:40; 6:35; 7:37
“I will give you rest” Mt. 11:28
“For My yoke is easy and My burden is light” Mt. 11:30
I am “greater than the temple” “than Jonah” “than Solomon” Mt. 12:6, 41?42
I am “Lord even of the Sabbath” Mt. 12:8; Mk. 2:28; Lk. 6:5 [Lord of God's Ten Commandments]
Thus He says keep “My commandments” 4x Jn. 14:15, 21; 15:10, 12
“You are My friends if you do whatever I command you” Jn. 15:14
“keep My word” Jn. 14:23?24
“He who is not with Me is against Me” Mt. 12:30
The angels are “His angels” Mt. 13:41; 16:27 and He commands “His angels” Mt. 24:31; Mk. 13:27
The kingdom is “His kingdom” Mt. 13:41 and He calls it “My kingdom” Lk. 22:30
Jesus called it “My church” Mt. 16:18 and believers are “My sheep” Jn. 10:14, 27 and they are “His elect” Mt. 24:31; Mk. 13:27
Paul is a “vessel of Mine to bear My name” Acts 9:15
“all Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine” Jn. 17:10
“My peace I give” Jn. 14:27 ”in Me you may have peace” Jn. 16:33
“My joy” should fill you Jn. 15:11
“Who do men say that I am?” Mt. 16:13; Mk. 8:27 “who do you say that I am?” Mt. 16:15
Receive “Me” Mt. 18:5; Mk. 9:37; Lk. 9:48
Heaven and earth will pass away but “My words” will never Mt. [5:18] 24:35; Mk. 13:31; Lk. 21:33
Tell others about Jesus Mk. 5:19
“you belong to Christ” Mk. 9:41
Hear “My sayings” and do them Lk. 6:47
Jesus has “His own glory” Lk. 9:26; [Jn. 2:11; 16:14] The Son is “glorified” 8x Jn. 11:4; 12:23; 13:31?32; [17:1, 5, 10 24]
“He who hears you hears Me” Lk. 10:16
Jesus expects praise, from stones if necessary 1x Lk. 19:37?40
Return “to Me” Lk. 22:32
Be “My disciple” Lk. 14:27; Jn. 8:31; 15:8 Forsake all to “be My disciple” Lk. 14:33 ”you are My disciples” Jn. 13:35
“I shall send… the [Holy] Spirit” Jn. 15:26; 16:7
The Holy Spirit “will testify of Me” Jn. 15:26
We read in John 5 and Luke 24 that “the Scriptures… testify of Me” Jn. 5:39; [Lk. 24:44]
“You [Apostles] also will bear witness [of Me] because you have been with Me” Jn. 15:27
Paul gives “testimony concerning Me” Acts 22:18; 23:11
“the Son gives life to whom He will” Jn. 5:21
“seek Me” Jn. 6:26
Serve “Me” Jn. 12:26
“all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father” Jn. 5:23
“I am the bread of life,” “of heaven,” “of God” Jn. 6: 32-33, 35, 41, [48,] 51
Just seeing Christ is reason enough to believe [Jn. 6:36] him” Jn. 6:56
Drink “My blood” and eat “My flesh” Jn. 6:53?54, 56
“I will raise him up at the last day” Jn. 6:40 for He is the resurrection
“The world… hates Me” Jn. 7:7
“I am the light of the world” Jn. 8:12; 9:5; 12:46
“I bear witness of Myself” 1x Jn. 8:13-14, 18
“know… Jesus Christ” for “eternal life” Jn. 17:3; [8:19; 10:10, 14]
“the Son makes you free” Jn. 8:36
“Abraham rejoiced to see My day” Jn. 8:56; “Before Abraham was, I AM” Jn. 8:58
Of believers, Christ said, “I know them” Jn. 10:27
“I give them eternal life” Jn. 10:28
“I am the resurrection and the life” Jn. 11:25
I “will draw all peoples to Myself” Jn. 12:32
“I will… receive you to Myself” Jn. 14:3
Be “Mine” Jn. 14:24
“I am the vine” Jn. 15:5
“without Me you can do nothing” Jn. 15:5
“You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you” Jn. 15:16
Those who oppress Christians are “persecuting Me” Acts 9:4?5; 22:7?8; 26:14?15
“because they have not known… Me” Jn. 16:3
The Spirit “will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it” Jn. 16:14
“All things that the Father has are Mine” Jn. 16:15
“the Father… loves you, because you have loved Me” Jn. 16:27
“If I will that he remain” Jn. 21:22
“I have overcome the world” Jn. 16:33
“I am the way” Jn. 14:6
“I am… the truth” Jn. 14:6
“I am… the life” Jn. 14:6
“I will… manifest Myself” Jn. 14:21

 

BoyStan

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Have you ever read the four Gospels?

Jesus' ministry is almost entirely self-centered.

From the above link:

Follow Me” 19x Mt. 4:19; 8:22; 10:38; 16:24; 19:21; Mk. 1:17; 2:14; 8:34; 10:21; Lk. 5:27; 9:59; 18:22; Jn. 1:43; 8:12; 10:27; 12:26; 13:36; 21:19, 22
Pray and act “in My name” 18x Mt. 7:22; 18:5; 18:20; [24:5]; Mk. 9:37, 39, 41; [13:6]; Lk. 9:48; [21:8]; 24:47; Jn. 14:13?14; 15:16; 16:23?24, 26; Acts 9:15
“the Holy Spirit” comes “in My name” Jn. 14:26
“for My name’s sake” leave family and property Mt. 19:29; or even be killed 5x Mt. 24:9; [Lk. 21:12, 17;] Jn. 15:21; Acts 9:16
Believe in the “name of the… Son” and “in the Son” 3x Jn. 3:18, 36; 9:35 and “in Him [Jesus]” 4x Jn. 3:18; 6:29, 40; 8:31
“believe in Me” 14x Mt. 18:6; Mk. 9:42; Jn. 3:15?16, 18; 6:35, 47; 7:38; 11:25, 26; 12:44, 46; 14:1, 12; 16:8; 17:20
You “are sanctified by faith in Me” Acts 26:18
Live “in Me” Jn. 11:26
“come after Me” Mk. 8:34; Lk. 14:27
Abide “in Me” Jn. 15:2, 4:5, 7 “abide in Me” or else Jn. 15:6 “abide in My love” Jn. 15:9?10
“where two or three are gathered” Jesus is “there in the midst of them” Mt. 18:20
So too: “I [Jesus, will abide] in you” Jn. 15:4?5
“know that I am He” Jn. 8:28 or “if you do not believe that I am He you will die in your sins” Jn. 8:24
Do things “for My sake” Mt. 10:22, 39; even lose your life “for My sake” 4x Mt. 16:25; Mk. 8:35; 10:29; Lk. 6:22
“I never knew you, depart from Me” Mt. 7:23
“I am willing; be cleansed” Mt. 8:3; Mk.. 1:41
”confess Me” Mt. 10:32; Lk. 12:8
Do not deny “Me” 7x Mt. 10:33; 26:34; Mk. 14:30, 72; Lk. 12:9; 22:34; Jn. 13:38
Do not be “ashamed of Me” Mk. 8:38; Lk. 9:26 nor "My words"
“love Me” 5x Jn. 14:15, 21, 23?24, 28
Do not reject “Me” Lk. 10:16; Jn. 12:48
“He who is not with Me is against Me” Lk. 11:23
Love Me “more than” your family members Mt. 10:37; [Lk. 14:26]
“I… have loved you” Jn. 15:9, 12
Be “worthy of Me” Mt. 10:37?38
“Come to Me” 5x Mt. 11:28; Lk. 6:47; Jn. 5:40; 6:35; 7:37
“I will give you rest” Mt. 11:28
“For My yoke is easy and My burden is light” Mt. 11:30
I am “greater than the temple” “than Jonah” “than Solomon” Mt. 12:6, 41?42
I am “Lord even of the Sabbath” Mt. 12:8; Mk. 2:28; Lk. 6:5 [Lord of God's Ten Commandments]
Thus He says keep “My commandments” 4x Jn. 14:15, 21; 15:10, 12
“You are My friends if you do whatever I command you” Jn. 15:14
“keep My word” Jn. 14:23?24
“He who is not with Me is against Me” Mt. 12:30
The angels are “His angels” Mt. 13:41; 16:27 and He commands “His angels” Mt. 24:31; Mk. 13:27
The kingdom is “His kingdom” Mt. 13:41 and He calls it “My kingdom” Lk. 22:30
Jesus called it “My church” Mt. 16:18 and believers are “My sheep” Jn. 10:14, 27 and they are “His elect” Mt. 24:31; Mk. 13:27
Paul is a “vessel of Mine to bear My name” Acts 9:15
“all Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine” Jn. 17:10
“My peace I give” Jn. 14:27 ”in Me you may have peace” Jn. 16:33
“My joy” should fill you Jn. 15:11
“Who do men say that I am?” Mt. 16:13; Mk. 8:27 “who do you say that I am?” Mt. 16:15
Receive “Me” Mt. 18:5; Mk. 9:37; Lk. 9:48
Heaven and earth will pass away but “My words” will never Mt. [5:18] 24:35; Mk. 13:31; Lk. 21:33
Tell others about Jesus Mk. 5:19
“you belong to Christ” Mk. 9:41
Hear “My sayings” and do them Lk. 6:47
Jesus has “His own glory” Lk. 9:26; [Jn. 2:11; 16:14] The Son is “glorified” 8x Jn. 11:4; 12:23; 13:31?32; [17:1, 5, 10 24]
“He who hears you hears Me” Lk. 10:16
Jesus expects praise, from stones if necessary 1x Lk. 19:37?40
Return “to Me” Lk. 22:32
Be “My disciple” Lk. 14:27; Jn. 8:31; 15:8 Forsake all to “be My disciple” Lk. 14:33 ”you are My disciples” Jn. 13:35
“I shall send… the [Holy] Spirit” Jn. 15:26; 16:7
The Holy Spirit “will testify of Me” Jn. 15:26
We read in John 5 and Luke 24 that “the Scriptures… testify of Me” Jn. 5:39; [Lk. 24:44]
“You [Apostles] also will bear witness [of Me] because you have been with Me” Jn. 15:27
Paul gives “testimony concerning Me” Acts 22:18; 23:11
“the Son gives life to whom He will” Jn. 5:21
“seek Me” Jn. 6:26
Serve “Me” Jn. 12:26
“all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father” Jn. 5:23
“I am the bread of life,” “of heaven,” “of God” Jn. 6: 32-33, 35, 41, [48,] 51
Just seeing Christ is reason enough to believe [Jn. 6:36] him” Jn. 6:56
Drink “My blood” and eat “My flesh” Jn. 6:53?54, 56
“I will raise him up at the last day” Jn. 6:40 for He is the resurrection
“The world… hates Me” Jn. 7:7
“I am the light of the world” Jn. 8:12; 9:5; 12:46
“I bear witness of Myself” 1x Jn. 8:13-14, 18
“know… Jesus Christ” for “eternal life” Jn. 17:3; [8:19; 10:10, 14]
“the Son makes you free” Jn. 8:36
“Abraham rejoiced to see My day” Jn. 8:56; “Before Abraham was, I AM” Jn. 8:58
Of believers, Christ said, “I know them” Jn. 10:27
“I give them eternal life” Jn. 10:28
“I am the resurrection and the life” Jn. 11:25
I “will draw all peoples to Myself” Jn. 12:32
“I will… receive you to Myself” Jn. 14:3
Be “Mine” Jn. 14:24
“I am the vine” Jn. 15:5
“without Me you can do nothing” Jn. 15:5
“You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you” Jn. 15:16
Those who oppress Christians are “persecuting Me” Acts 9:4?5; 22:7?8; 26:14?15
“because they have not known… Me” Jn. 16:3
The Spirit “will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it” Jn. 16:14
“All things that the Father has are Mine” Jn. 16:15
“the Father… loves you, because you have loved Me” Jn. 16:27
“If I will that he remain” Jn. 21:22
“I have overcome the world” Jn. 16:33
“I am the way” Jn. 14:6
“I am… the truth” Jn. 14:6
“I am… the life” Jn. 14:6
“I will… manifest Myself” Jn. 14:21


Thats an impressive list!
Ok, Jesus was self-centred in his ministry. Why? One purpose of Jesus entire incarnation and glorification was
that the saints may know the fellowship and love of the Father (Jn17:25-26).
So I rejoice in relating to the Father in Jesus name.
 

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Call it whatever you want.
I don't know that I'd call it anything other than listening. My question was, "What 'religious activity' do I place 'above truth?'" You said that because I receive the teachings of the Church's college of bishops, because I listen to them, that I therefore place their teachings 'above truth.' But their authoritative teachings on faith and morals Is the truth, so I don't agree with your assessment. Do you have some other 'religious activity' in mind?
Says the confused one.
I don't feel confused.
 

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And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart,
and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength:
this is the first commandment.
 
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