The redeemed Church is Gods peculiar people !

[beloved57]

People have a tendency to call biblical theology replacement theology, however its not that at all, its fulfillment theology. The NT is the fulfillment of the OT, for instance, God said of Israel of old, IF they would keep the covenant of God they would be this:

Ex 19:5

Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:,

This has been fufilled in the Church Christ gave Himself for Titus 2:14

14 Who gave himself for us[The Church], that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

The word here peculiar is the greek word periousios and means:

of one's own possession
Usage: costly, treasured, select, specially chosen.

This treasured, special people includes both jews and gentiles, male and female, bond and free. This is Gods own special chosen people rather than the ethnic jews of the physical nation of Israel. This is the Spiritual Israel purified unto God and Christ by the Blood of Christ , by Christ giving Himself for them. What People could be more dear and special to God than these ?

 

[beloved57]

The redeemed church is that special chosen people and nation Peter writes of here 1 Pet 2:9

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Peter here designates these redeemed people 1 Pet 1:18-19 cp to Titus 2:14 a peculiar people just like them in Titus 2:14, so them in Titus 2:14 are also a royal priesthood, a Holy Nation, and its the Church, Spiritual Israel.

 

[Nanja]

The redeemed church is that special chosen people and nation Peter writes of here 1 Pet 2:9

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Peter here designates these redeemed people 1 Pet 1:18-19 cp to Titus 2:14 a peculiar people just like them in Titus 2:14, so them in Titus 2:14 are also a royal priesthood, a Holy Nation, and its the Church, Spiritual Israel.

Absolutely correct Brother !

 

[Idolater]

The redeemed church is that special chosen people and nation Peter writes of here 1 Pet 2:9

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Peter here designates these redeemed people 1 Pet 1:18-19 cp to Titus 2:14 a peculiar people just like them in Titus 2:14, so them in Titus 2:14 are also a royal priesthood, a Holy Nation, and its the Church, Spiritual Israel.

Nice.

 

[Right Divider]

The redeemed church is that special chosen people and nation Peter writes of here 1 Pet 2:9

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Peter here designates these redeemed people 1 Pet 1:18-19 cp to Titus 2:14 a peculiar people just like them in Titus 2:14, so them in Titus 2:14 are also a royal priesthood, a Holy Nation, and its the Church, Spiritual Israel.

Peter was writing to the twelve tribes of Israel, just like James.

See 1 Peter 1:1 and James 1:1

Also see this:

1Pe 2:11-12 KJV Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul; (12) Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.

Note the YOU/THEY dichotomy.

 

[beloved57]

Peter was writing to the twelve tribes of Israel, just like James.

See 1 Peter 1:1 and James 1:1

Also see this:

Note the YOU/THEY dichotomy.

Peter was writing to the Church, the Body of Christ !

 

[Right Divider]

Peter was writing to the Church, the Body of Christ !

You're wrong and the scripture opposes you.

 

[beloved57]

You're wrong and the scripture opposes you.

Its the church, the Body of Christ Peter is writing to, the Believer in Christ. Has nothing to do with race.

 

[Right Divider]

Its the church, the Body of Christ Peter is writing to, the Believer in Christ. Has nothing to do with race.

1Pe 1:1 KJV Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,

The "strangers" are NOT the body of Christ. They are the twelve tribes of Israel.
Same as James writes to.

Jas 1:1 KJV James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

That you cannot understand scripture is clear and the scripture is clear.
Again, you IGNORED scripture here:

1Pe 2:11-12 KJV Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul; (12) Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.

Peter makes it CRYSTAL clear that he is writing to NON-GENTILES (i.e., Israel).

 

[beloved57]

The "strangers" are NOT the body of Christ. They are the twelve tribes of Israel.
Same as James writes to.

That you cannot understand scripture is clear and the scripture is clear.
Again, you IGNORED scripture here:

Peter makes it CRYSTAL clear that he is writing to NON-GENTILES (i.e., Israel).

Peter wrote to the Church

 

[Right Divider]

Peter wrote to the Church

You can keep making vain claims that go against scripture... but that does not change the FACT that you are WRONG.

 

[beloved57]

You can keep making vain claims that go against scripture... but that does not change the FACT that you are WRONG.

You wrong, dead wrong ! In fact all scripture is for the church 2 Tim 3:16

15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

1 and 2 Peter is scripture 2 Pet 3:15-16

15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

 

[Right Divider]

You wrong, dead wrong ! In fact all scripture is for the church 2 Tim 3:16

15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

1 and 2 Peter is scripture 2 Pet 3:15-16

15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

You really are an incompetent boob.
You are illogical and stupid.

 

[beloved57]

You really are an incompetent boob.
You are illogical and stupid.

In fact, all scripture, from Gen to Rev is solely the property of Christs Body the Church, as well as all of the True teachers of scripture belong to the Church 1 Cor 3:21-23

21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are your's;

22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are your's;

23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

 

[JudgeRightly]

People have a tendency to call biblical theology

Sorry, but what you refer to as "replacement theology" or "fulfillment theology" (whatever that means) is not biblical.

replacement theology,

Is not biblical. It's not supported by scripture.

however its not that at all, its fulfillment theology.

I've never heard of the term "fulfillment theology before, but if, by it, you mean "replacement theology," then I oppose it, because it is not biblical.

The NT is the fulfillment of the OT, for instance,

Yet aside from all the things Christ did, there was a lot unfulfilled, such as His second coming, the Great Tribulation (or as the Bible calls it, the "Time of Jacob's Trouble"), the descent of Jerusalem from heaven, etc...

God said of Israel of old, IF they would keep the covenant of God they would be this:

Ex 19:5

Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:,

Indeed.

This has been fufilled in the Church Christ gave Himself for

Saying it doesn't make it so, and overlaying your beliefs onto scripture, as you have done in the following verse, isn't helping you.

Titus 2:14

14 Who gave himself for us[The Church], that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Let's look at it without the edits, in context:

For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age,looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works. - Titus 2:11-14 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Titus2:11-14&version=NKJV

So, what is the passage saying?

That the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men.

The grace of God teaches us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age.

The grace of God teaches us to look for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.

That Jesus Christ gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed.

And that Jesus will purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works.

The "us" is referring to the Body of Christ.

Nothing here is about the Elect Lady, Israel.

The word here peculiar is the greek word periousios and means:

of one's own possession
Usage: costly, treasured, select, specially chosen.

Chosen just means picked for a purpose. It has very little, if anything, to do with salvation.

(Watch the full video HERE!)

This treasured, special people includes both jews and gentiles, male and female, bond and free. This is Gods own special chosen people rather than the ethnic jews of the physical nation of Israel.

AGREED! The Body of Christ is a treasured people!

This is the Spiritual Israel

WRONG!

There is no such thing as "Spiritual Israel."

There is Israel, the nation, made up of Jews and proselytes (which are Gentiles who became Jews).
There is the Body of Christ, a nationless organism, a new creature, new creation.

Two different groups with two different programs.

purified unto God and Christ by the Blood of Christ, by Christ giving Himself for them. What People could be more dear and special to God than these?

Than the Body of Christ?

How about Israel herself?

The redeemed church is that special chosen people and nation Peter writes of here 1 Pet 2:9

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Just because you have a verse that says something that you believe, doesn't make your beliefs correct.

Peter here designates these redeemed people 1 Pet 1:18-19 cp to Titus 2:14 a peculiar people just like them in Titus 2:14, so them in Titus 2:14 are also a royal priesthood, a Holy Nation, and its the Church, Spiritual Israel.

See RD's post.

Peter was writing to the Church, the Body of Christ!

No, he wasn't. He was writing to Israel.

 

[beloved57]

Sorry, but what you refer to as "replacement theology" or "fulfillment theology" (whatever that means) is not biblical.



Is not biblical. It's not supported by scripture.



I've never heard of the term "fulfillment theology before, but if, by it, you mean "replacement theology," then I oppose it, because it is not biblical.



Yet aside from all the things Christ did, there was a lot unfulfilled, such as His second coming, the Great Tribulation (or as the Bible calls it, the "Time of Jacob's Trouble"), the descent of Jerusalem from heaven, etc...



Indeed.



Saying it doesn't make it so, and overlaying your beliefs onto scripture, as you have done in the following verse, isn't helping you.



Let's look at it without the edits, in context:

For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age,looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works. - Titus 2:11-14 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Titus2:11-14&version=NKJV

So, what is the passage saying?

That the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men.

The grace of God teaches us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age.

The grace of God teaches us to look for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.

That Jesus Christ gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed.

And that Jesus will purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works.

The "us" is referring to the Body of Christ.

Nothing here is about the Elect Lady, Israel.



Chosen just means picked for a purpose. It has very little, if anything, to do with salvation.

(Watch the full video HERE!)



AGREED! The Body of Christ is a treasured people!



WRONG!

There is no such thing as "Spiritual Israel."

There is Israel, the nation, made up of Jews and proselytes (which are Gentiles who became Jews).
There is the Body of Christ, a nationless organism, a new creature, new creation.

Two different groups with two different programs.



Than the Body of Christ?

How about Israel herself?



Just because you have a verse that says something that you believe, doesn't make your beliefs correct.



See RD's post.



No, he wasn't. He was writing to Israel.

There's only one Chosen, treasured People, and they are in Christ, who is the Head of His Body the Church, outside of Christ all are damned vessels of wrath headed for destruction, no matter their race friend ! Saved Israel is the Body of Christ, the Church !

 

[JudgeRightly]

There's only one Chosen, treasured People, and they are in Christ, who is the Head of His Body the Church, outside of Christ all are damned vessels of wrath headed for destruction, no matter their race friend ! Saved Israel is the Body of Christ, the Church !

Because you say so?

That's not what scripture says.

 

[beloved57]

Because you say so?

That's not what scripture says.

Sure scripture says it, I have given you scripture.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Sure scripture says it,

No, it doesn't.

I have given you scripture.

You've cherry picked verses that you think say what you believe, but in reality, they say nothing of the sort.

 

[beloved57]

No, it doesn't.



You've cherry picked verses that you think say what you believe, but in reality, they say nothing of the sort.

Yes it does, that's how I was able to highlight it to view ! Nothing wrong with cherry-picking verses to make a scriptural point, thats what they are for. As long as its done wisely and with prudence. I have never seen a poster yet not cherry-pick verses, including you sir !