The Order of Salvation

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Samie

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God's Truth said:
No one is born saved. God does not save unbelievers. God does not save unbelievers by making them obey.
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God saved you first by PLUGGING you to His only begotten Son, the only source of power. After being plugged in to Him, then you have His power to obey. Understand?
 
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Samie said:
If we start out in life NOT in Christ, as majority of preachers teach, then we are hopeless. Why? Because we start life NOT plugged in to the only source of power, Christ - the power of God (1 Cor 1:24), and therefore, being powerless, we can do NOTHING, just like what Christ said (John 15:5).

But preachers continue on harping that UNLESS man does SOMETHING first - accept, believe, etc.", he cannot be plugged in to the only source of power. For them, the electric bulb MUST shine first so it can be plugged in to the source of power. And they seem not to see the falsity in their teaching.
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Most teach the falseness that you teach.
 
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If you are not yet plugged in to Christ - the only source of power, where will you get the power to obey, GT? From Satan?
 
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You GT, don't believe Christ saying apart from Him man can do NOTHING. You insist you can do SOMETHING even when not plugged in to Him yet.
 
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So GT, where does your power to obey come from if while NOT plugged in to Christ - the only source of power, you CLAIM you can obey?
 
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Samie said:
Because you don't understand what scripture says.
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False accusations.

Give the scripture that says we are saved before we are saved.

Give the scripture that says we do not have to do anything.

Give the scripture that says do not be a servant.

You speak nonsense.

Only Satan would preach that we do not have to obey and that God does all the work for us.

God works IN US TO MAKE US want to obey---and that is only after we obey and receive the Holy Spirit.
 
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God's Truth said:
False accusations.

Give the scripture that says we are saved before we are saved.

Give the scripture that says we do not have to do anything.

Give the scripture that says do not be a servant.

You speak nonsense.

Only Satan would preach that we do not have to obey and that God does all the work for us.

God works IN US TO MAKE US want to obey---and that is only after we obey and receive the Holy Spirit.
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So GT, where does your power to obey come from if while NOT plugged in to Christ - the only source of power, you CLAIM you can obey?

Answer this question, please!!!
 
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Samie said:
So GT, where does your power to obey come from if while NOT plugged in to Christ - the only source of power, you CLAIM you can obey?
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Obeying Jesus' words are power. You have to obey. Did you obey your own brain and body and get up this morning? Did you ever obey and do anything that your mom and dad told you to do? Your teacher? The police, the government? Your boss? Did they have to give you a special enabling? You are speaking from the spirit of false teachers.
 
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Samie

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God's Truth said:
Obeying Jesus' words are power. You have to obey. Did you obey your own brain and body and get up this morning? Did you ever obey and do anything that your mom and dad told you to do? Your teacher? The police, the government? Did they have to give you a special enabling? You are speaking from the spirit of false teachers.
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That did not directly answer my question. Again:

GT, where does your power to obey come from if while NOT plugged in to Christ - the only source of power, you CLAIM you can obey?
 
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