Jesus is the Lord, not Paul or anyone else. and you are dismissing Jesus' word to suit your desire.
The Old Testament Law Was Fulfilled
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Jesus is the Lord, not Paul or anyone else. and you are dismissing Jesus' word to suit your desire.
Huckleberry
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And you yet again refuse to answer any point, so it's clear you have no answer. If you refuse to reexamine your faulty understanding when it's clearly and simply presented to you, then you have no excuse.
marhig
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Sorry, did you see my post? You may have missed it. I'm just wondering, are you saying that you only have to say "i believe" and that's it?
I guess I hit your nerve to be precise analyzing your tactic to justify your typical Jesus less faith.
Calm down, Jesus loves you.
Pay attention to Jesus' word. He is the Lord, dear.
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lol To cease from doing something is doing something. Your changing what your doing.
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James 2:20-24
20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar?
22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect?
23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, "Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness." And he was called the friend of God.
24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
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James 2:26
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
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Your the one with the faulty understanding. Your trying to make a conclusion out of a principle. You cant do that. Faith alone is dead, one must prove their faith like Abraham did with his son.
Faith-Works-Love (By Themselves they are only principles) But together they are righteousness.
People are trying to make a conclusion out of pieces and parts. It cant be done. Faith alone won't get you to heaven. Works alone won't get you to heaven. Love alone won't get you to heaven. That is the only conclusion.
XXX If all you have to present to God is faith, YOU ARE NOTHING.
1 Cor 13:1-2
1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal.
2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
James 2:14
14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him?
James 2:17-18
17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18 But someone will say, "You have faith, and I have works." Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.
James 2:24
24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
James 2:26
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Rom 16:26
26 but now has been made manifest, and by the prophetic Scriptures has been made known to all nations, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, for obedience to the faith--
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XXX You are saved by grace through faith. But that is NOT SALVATION.
Eph 2:8
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
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Luke 6:32-33
32 "But if you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them.
33 "And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same.
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xxx Some stand on faith and some stand on works and some stand on love. They are all principles, they have to be together. So many on here are argueing just one point or part of a whole. You need to understand. Faith without works or love is dead. Works without faith or love is vanity. Love without faith or works is useless. Love is NOT AN EMOTION. Love is an action.
So many are running on blind faith. They dont even know what faith is. In reality their useing trust as faith. Their different. Your faith should be in what is written, all of it. But faith alone will NOT get you to heaven. Works alone will NOT get you to heaven. Love alone will not get you to heaven. What you need is the true faith in the Word of God. If you have the true faith in the Word of God you would try your best to do the works that are in the Word. Now love is NOT a feeling but an action. And the only way to learn what Godly love is would be tod do the works. That is how you learn what love is by trying to do the works. In the Word that you have put your faith in.
Rom 5:1-4
1 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
2 through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
3 And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance;
4 and perseverance, character; and character, hope.
Eph 2:18-20
18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.
19 Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God,
20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner stone,
Eph 3:12
12 in whom we have boldness and access with confidence through faith in Him.
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Huckleberry
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Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God—
9 not by works, lest any man should boast.
Huckleberry
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Sorry, surrendering is not an action, not a work.
marhig
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Yes, sorry, but what has that got to do with just believing?
Huckleberry
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It's not enough simply to believe. Even demons believe. You must surrender to Christ, admit you are a sinner in need of salvation and allow him into your heart.
Huckleberry
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Ridiculous.
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Surrendering to Christ is obeying Him. First one has to crucify all their emotions, then they have to purge their minds of all thoughts that don't obey the new testament.
Gal 5:24-25
24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
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2 Cor 10:3-5
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh.
4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,
5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,
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