The Myth of unMerited Favor and Grace

[God's Truth]

And I keep asking you why you keep saying that one must obey EVERYTHING Christ commanded, when that clearly is not true.

There is no false witness against you.
You HAVE repeatedly said that one must obey EVERYTHING Jesus commanded.
Even when shown that you do not even believe that, you still say it over and over.
That's the truth, not false witness.

You still refuse to answer.

Please tell me what you obey that Jesus teaches.

 

[God's Truth]

Two 'groups' are not made one.

What you said right there is against what the Bible says right here:


Ephesians 2:14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility,


You are badly mistaken, Steko, because God bound all those faithless Jews to be right there were the non obeying Gentiles were.

Romans 11:32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

 

[serpentdove]

Peter preached The Kingdom Message. Paul preached The Grace Message. Two distinct messages.

:hammer: Peter preached to the Jews. Paul preached to the gentiles. They both preached the same gospel. Ga 2:8

See:

Eph 3:6 McGee, MacArthur

Ga 2:7-8 McGee, MacArthur

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[Tambora]

You still refuse to answer.

Please tell me what you obey that Jesus teaches.

You still refuse to answer why you keep repeating the lie that one must obey EVERYTHING Jesus commanded, when you clearly don't even believe that yourself.

 

[God's Truth]

You still refuse to answer why you keep repeating the lie that one must obey EVERYTHING Jesus commanded, when you clearly don't even believe that yourself.

You obey nothing because Jesus told someone not to tell something about him?

 

[God's Truth]

You still refuse to answer why you keep repeating the lie that one must obey EVERYTHING Jesus commanded, when you clearly don't even believe that yourself.

We have to obey everything Jesus says. Read the whole story.

 

[Tambora]

Two 'groups' are not made one. Individuals from each group, Israel and Gentiles are made one in one body, the Body of Christ....a new creation.

Yeppers.

Two groups were not combined together as one.
A whole new group was formed from individuals from both groups to form the new group.

 

[God's Truth]

Yeppers.

Two groups were not combined together as one.
A whole new group was formed from individuals from both groups to form the new group.

God bound ALL to disobedience.

 

[Tambora]

We have to obey everything Jesus says.

There she goes again!!!!

Matthew 16:20 KJV
(20) Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.


opcorn:

 

[Tambora]

God bound ALL to disobedience.

Does the "all" include you?

 

[God's Truth]

Does the "all" include you?

It includes EVERYONE.

Jews and Gentiles, everyone.

 

[God's Truth]

There she goes again!!!!

Matthew 16:20 KJV
(20) Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.


opcorn:

Read the rest of the story.

 

[Tambora]

You obey nothing because Jesus told someone not to tell something about him?

Here's your own words:

We have to obey everything Jesus says.

Do you obey EVERYTHING Jesus commanded?
Nope.

Matthew 16:20 KJV
(20) Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.​

But we have learned that you are comfortable telling lies.

 

[Tambora]

It includes EVERYONE.

Jews and Gentiles, everyone.

Then God has bound you to disobedience.

 

[Crucible]

You are not saved because you believe in Christ, you believe in Christ because you are saved.

~Sovereign Election~

 

[God's Truth]

Then God has bound you to disobedience.

God bound ALL to disobedience and the only way you will be set free is to OBEY Jesus.

 

[God's Truth]

You are not saved because you believe in Christ, you believe in Christ because you are saved.

Nonsense words from men.

 

[Tambora]

I do not do what you accuse me of doing.

You do it all the time.

 

[God's Truth]

Here's your own words:


Do you obey EVERYTHING Jesus commanded?
Nope.

Matthew 16:20 KJV
(20) Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.​

But we have learned that you are comfortable telling lies.

Find all of Jesus' teachings and not just one command he gave one person. You need to do that, and then obey what you can. Jesus gives understanding to those who obey him.

 

[God's Truth]

You are not saved because you believe in Christ, you believe in Christ because you are saved.

~Sovereign Election~

God elects those who obey.