The myth of the "early church"

[Right Divider]

The only "rule" is to "believe in Christ".

Apparently, you are completely ignorant of the doctrines of your own "church".

Gemini can give you a little help:

Question: According to Roman Catholic doctrine, what must a person do to be saved?

Answer:

To be saved under Roman Catholic doctrine, you must enter a state of sanctifying grace through faith and baptism, maintain that grace through obedient love and good works, and die in that state of grace without unconfessed mortal sin.

Catholicism views salvation as an ongoing lifelong process rather than a single past event. The Church teaches that God initiates your salvation through unmerited grace, but you must actively participate and cooperate with that grace throughout your life.

1. Receive Initial Grace Through Faith and Baptism​

Your journey begins with faith in Jesus Christ and the reception of the Sacrament of Baptism. The Council of Trent and the Catechism teach that baptism is the instrumental cause of initial justification.

• What it accomplishes: Baptism remits original sin, forgives any actual sins you previously committed, and infuses your soul with sanctifying grace, the theological virtues (faith, hope, and charity), and the Holy Spirit.
• Exceptions: For those unable to receive water baptism before death, the Church recognizes baptism of blood (martyrdom for the faith) and baptism of desire (an explicit or implicit desire to conform your will to God).

2. Live in Faith Formed by Charity​

Faith alone is insufficient for final salvation in Catholic theology. Your faith must be active and informed by charity (love).

• Obedience and Commandments: You must obey the moral law and keep the Ten Commandments and the precepts of the Church.
• Merit and Good Works: Good works done in grace do not earn initial justification, which is a free gift. However, once you are justified, your good works truly merit an increase in grace and eternal life.
• The Sacraments: You sustain this spiritual life primarily through regular reception of the Eucharist, which Catholics consider the true Body and Blood of Christ.

3. Restore Grace After Mortal Sin​

Sanctifying grace can be lost. Catholic doctrine distinguishes between two classes of sin:

• Venial sin: Weakens your charity and merits temporal punishment, but does not sever your relationship with God or destroy sanctifying grace.
• Mortal sin: Involves grave matter, committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent. A single unrepented mortal sin removes sanctifying grace, expels charity from your soul, and incurs eternal damnation.

If you commit a mortal sin, you must repent and receive the Sacrament of Penance (Confession). To be forgiven, you must possess contrition, confess every known mortal sin in kind and number to a validly ordained priest, receive sacramental absolution, and perform the prescribed penance (satisfaction). Perfect contrition (sorrow arising purely from love of God) forgives mortal sin immediately, provided you also resolve to go to sacramental confession as soon as possible.

4. Achieve Final Perseverance​

Salvation is settled at the exact moment of your physical death:

• Die in mortal sin: You freely choose eternal separation from God, resulting in Hell.
• Die in sanctifying grace without remaining temporal punishment: You enter Heaven immediately.
• Die in sanctifying grace with venial sins or unpaid temporal punishment: You enter Purgatory, a state of final purification, before entering Heaven. Every soul in Purgatory is already assured of eventual entrance into Heaven.

Complete and total perversion of the gospel of the grace of God!

 

[Idolater]

“ §838 The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter. Those who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church. ”

 

[Right Divider]

“ §838 The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter. Those who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church. ”

Read it!

"Those who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized"

That is ADDING to the gospel of the grace of God!

P.S. You've left out MANY other things that the RCC says are REQUIRED.

 

[Idolater]

Read it!

"Those who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized"

That is ADDING to the gospel of the grace of God!

P.S. You've left out MANY other things that the RCC says are REQUIRED.

“ §1260 "Since Christ died for all, and since all men are in fact called to one and the same destiny, which is divine, we must hold that the Holy Spirit offers to all the possibility of being made partakers, in a way known to God, of the Paschal mystery." Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved. It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity. ”

 

[Right Divider]

“ §1260 "Since Christ died for all, and since all men are in fact called to one and the same destiny, which is divine, we must hold that the Holy Spirit offers to all the possibility of being made partakers, in a way known to God, of the Paschal mystery." Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved. It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity. ”

Eph 4:5 (AKJV/PCE)​

(4:5) One Lord, one faith, one baptism,​

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1Cor 12:13 (AKJV/PCE)​

(12:13) For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.​

You can quote that nonsense (i.e., the Catholic Catechism) all that you want. It's complete garbage. I'll quote the WORD OF GOD (i.e., the BIBLE).

1Tim 2:5 (AKJV/PCE)​

(2:5) For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; ​

 

[Idolater]

Eph 4:5 (AKJV/PCE)​

(4:5) One Lord, one faith, one baptism,​

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1Cor 12:13 (AKJV/PCE)​

(12:13) For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.​

Catholicism ofc asserts that all Scripture is the Word of God.

You can quote that nonsense (i.e., the Catholic Catechism) all that you want. It's complete garbage. I'll quote the WORD OF GOD (i.e., the BIBLE).

1Tim 2:5 (AKJV/PCE)​

(2:5) For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; ​

Another Scripture that Catholicism fully asserts.

 

[Right Divider]

Catholicism ofc asserts that all Scripture is the Word of God.

The RCC is full of double-talk. Even claiming that "they gave us the Bible".

You are brainwashed.

Another Scripture that Catholicism fully asserts.

Apparently, AGAIN, you do NOT know what the doctrines of the RCC are. Like the supposed "vicar of Christ".

 

[Idolater]

The RCC is full of double-talk. Even claiming that "they gave us the Bible".

That claim, which I ask you btw to quote/cite, is mere recognition that the early Church was One, and it was this One Church which recognized what we all today call the Bible.

You are brainwashed.

I am independent and unbiased through hard work and honesty. I have concluded that Catholicism is constitutionally and institutionally the New Testament Church.

Apparently, AGAIN, you do NOT know what the doctrines of the RCC are. Like the supposed "vicar of Christ".

My post which catalyzed this recent discussion:

The only "rule" is to "believe in Christ".

That's the "RCC" doctrine in question rn. This is the Church's teaching re non-Catholics. If you believe in Christ, then you are a Christian.

 

[Right Divider]

That claim, which I ask you btw to quote/cite, is mere recognition that the early Church was One, and it was this One Church which recognized what we all today call the Bible.

The "early church" was completely Israelite. That's why it had TWELVE apostles.

I am independent and unbiased through hard work and honesty.

I have concluded that Catholicism is constitutionally and institutionally the New Testament Church.

The "new covenant" is completely Israelite as well.

That's the "RCC" doctrine in question rn. This is the Church's teaching re non-Catholics. If you believe in Christ, then you are a Christian.

The church which is His body was begun long after "the early church". Paul was the first member.

Peter was one of twelve apostles that will sit on twelve thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Peter and the eleven limited their ministry to the circumcision. See Gal 2.

The RCC is a POSER and an abomination and a liar.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved.

Here, let me simplify the sentence for you, so that it's easier for you to be confronted by the truth:

"Every man who . . . seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved."

"Every man who . . . does [something] in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved."

All this is saying is that whatever you believe "the will of God" to be, so long as you stick to what you think it means, you can be saved.

Whatever that's supposed to mean.

 

[Nick M]

Those who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized

Properly baptized being a work of man.