The Marxist Dialectic, the New American Nationalism and the Dinosaur Media

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The Marxist Dialectic, the New American Nationalism and the Dinosaur Media

In his 1950 book, The Authoritarian Personality, Transformational Marxist ,Theodore W. Adorno of the Frankfurt School, taught that Christianity and the family cause racism,

Adorno and his crew who did the ideological work at Berkeley for the book, The Authoritarian Personality, 1950, included anti-semitism in their ideology, which promoted Transformational Marxism, by use of fascism as the dialectic opposite - and chief villain - within their use of the Marxist dialectic.

"In the eyes of the dialectical philosophy, nothing is established for
all time, nothing is absolute or sacred." (Karl Marx)

Benjamin Bloom, who wrote the two volume book on the Taxonomy
of Educational Goal Objectives, by which all teachers must be
certified, said "“We recognize the point of view that
truth and knowledge are only relative and that there are no hard and fast truths which exist for all time and places.” (Benjamin Bloom, et al., Taxonomy of Educational Objectives, Book 1, Cognitive Domain).

Dean Gotcher found a footnote in Bloom's Affective Domain book, on page 166, where Bloom acknowledges the influence of Theodore W. Adorno and Eric Fromm on the psychological theory, or ideology contained in his two volumes, Educational Goal taxonomies. Book II , Affective Domain p. 166.

“1. Cf. Erich Fromm, 1941; T. W. Adorno et al., 1950” Benjamin Bloom, Book II Affective Domain p. 166. This is Bloom's footnote
acknowledging the influence on his thinking from Erich Fromm and
Theodore W. Adorno. Adorno was an original Frankfurter Marxist who posed as a personality and social psychologist in writing his 1950 book, The Authoritarian Personality, in which he claimed that the authoritarian personality and fascism are caused by the family and Christianity. Erich Fromm was a Transformational Marxist psychologist and close associate of the Frankfurters.

All public school teachers are required to know the ideology in the two volumes - the Taxonomy of Educational Goal Objectives,1956 and 1964 - by Benjamin Bloom and associates,to become certified.

This means that all school teachers since 1956 and/or 1964 have been indoctrinated in Transformational Marxism. However, neither Bloom nor other educational psychologists ever admit that the Taxonomy of Educational Goal Objectives are based on an ideology coming out of the Marxist Frankfurt School.

The Baby Boomers were the first to be taught by teachers certified in Transformational Marxist ideology.

Excerpts From The Authoritarian Personality By Theodor Wiesengrund Adorno

http://www.heathwoodpress.com/…/35738019-Adorno-Theodor-W-S…

"The present inquiry into the nature of the potentially fascistic
individual began with anti-Semitism in the focus of attention.
The authors, in common with most social
scientists, hold the
view that anti-Semitism is based more largely upon factors in
the subject and in his total situation than upon actual
characteristics of Jews, and that one place to look for
determinants of anti-Semitic opinions and attitudes is within the
persons who express them..........,.And since from the start the
research was guided by the hypotheses stated above, it was
supposed (1) that anti-Semitism probably is not a specific or
isolated phenomenon but a part of a broader ideological
framework, and (2) that an individual's susceptibility to this
ideology depends primarily upon his psychological needs. "

"The task of fascist propaganda, in other words, is
rendered easier to the degree that antidemocratic potentials already exist in the great mass of people."

Political correctness, which became an effective attitude and belief changing propaganda procedure for the Left, came out of the teachings of the Frankfurt School on anti-Semitism and racism and the use of fascism as the dialectical opposite of Transformational Marxism. Fascism became for Transformational Marxism the number one villain, when in fact, the final goal of Transformational Marxism is the creation of a world wide collectivist totalitarian society under a dictatorial world government.

So, following the Frankfurt School ideology, the American Left considers any American nationalist movement "fascist," and its leaders "racist" Both are politically incorrect.

And the "dinosaur media," the Government-Media-Complex, looks for any behavior by those politically incorrect populist-nationalists which might be called "racist" and "fascist," Hitler is drug out as a symbol of fascist nationalism, hinting that any nationalist leader is like Hitler.
 

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I was a music and education major at Hofstra University on Long Island many years ago. I took a wide variety of education courses, none of which had anything even remotely do do with Marx,Marxism, or communism. No faculty or administrators made me read any book about Marxism or politics of any kind.
No education professor ever told me I should or must brainwash kids with Marxist concepts .
This post is a lot of hogwash !
 

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I was a music and education major at Hofstra University on Long Island many years ago. I took a wide variety of education courses, none of which had anything even remotely do do with Marx,Marxism, or communism. No faculty or administrators made me read any book about Marxism or politics of any kind.
No education professor ever told me I should or must brainwash kids with Marxist concepts .
This post is a lot of hogwash !

Hence the reason you turned out to be the good Bible-believing conservative that you are.

On a serious note:

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals -

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc. - See more at: http://rense.com/general32/americ.htm#sthash.TRHtmuvk.dpuf
 

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Culture Warrior, none of this has ever been implemented in America . There may have been a small number of communists in America decades ago who wanted to turn America into another Soviet Union, but they are long gone. Dead and buried .
Communism is dead -period . There are no real communists any more, only a tiny handful of clowns with zero power and influence who call themselves communists . A Communist Party of the United States still exists, but it is a tiny and puny little organization which is no more a threat to America than Mickey Mouse .
Th REAL threat to America is the exact opposite of communism - right-wing extremist fascist THEOCRACY .
The GOP is full of theocrats - the worst kind of politician ; some are members of congress , some no longer in congress, plus a variety of governors etc . Rick Perry, Michelle Bachmann, Louie Gohmert, Jim De Mint,
Mike Pence , Ted Cruz, to name only a few . These people are extremely dangerous, and they should never even have been elected to the House of Representatives or the senate in the first place.
These people are a deadly combination of Christian fanaticism and intolerance , gross ignorance of science , world history and foreign countries , sickening anti-gay bigotry, fanatical opposition to abortion, women's rights, gay rights , minority rights etc . And the totally amoral Donald Trump could become their leader if he is elected this November. I guarantee you, it won't be pretty !
The terrifying thing about Trump is that he has absolutely no core principles or integrity. He allies himself with the lunatic fringe of the GOP for his own selfish reasons and blindest for power , money and influence. He tells people what they want to hear and conveniently changes his views on the issues depending on the people he is dealing with .
There are many other members of congress who are NOT Christian fanatics and they are not the problem . The are reasonable and tolerant people even though they are Christian.
 

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Culture Warrior, none of this has ever been implemented in America...

Say what?

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war. 2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war. 3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength. 4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war. 5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites. 6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination. 7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N. 8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N. 9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress. 10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N. 11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.) 12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party. 13. Do away with all loyalty oaths. 14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office. 15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States. 16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights. 17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks. 18. Gain control of all student newspapers. 19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack. 20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions. 21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures. 22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms." 23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art." 24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press. 25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. 26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy." 27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch." 28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." 29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis. 30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man." 31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over. 32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc. 33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus. 34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities. 35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI. 36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions. 37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business. 38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat]. 39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals. 40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. 41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents. 42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems. 43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government. 44. Internationalize the Panama Canal. 45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike. - See more at: http://rense.com/general32/americ.htm#sthash.TRHtmuvk.217QQAn7.dpuf

I can pick out at least 20 of those that have been "implemented in America".
 

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aCW, if a country takes measures to avoid atomic war then that's the only sensible course to take even if it means 'capitulating' to an extent. You do what M.A.D. stands for right?
 

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aCW, if a country takes measures to avoid atomic war then that's the only sensible course to take even if it means 'capitulating' to an extent. You do what M.A.D. stands for right?

I assume you're talking about #1 and 2:

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war. 2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

Peace at any price isn't peace nor is it freedom.
 

Arthur Brain

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I assume you're talking about #1 and 2:

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war. 2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

Peace at any price isn't peace nor is it freedom.

I repeat: You do know what M.A.D. stands for right?
 

Arthur Brain

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Let me know what it has to do with the 45 Declared Goals for the communist takeover of America.

Dude, if MAD ever happened then communism, conservatism or any sort of 'ism' would be moot. Global thermonuclear war would kinda see to that...

Oh, it stands for 'mutually assured destruction' as you evidently didn't know and one of the most appropriate acronyms there is. If you think it's a price worth paying for "freedom" though...
 

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None of these things listed has ever turned America into a communist dictatorship . Obama is no more a Marxist or communist than Pope Francis is a Buddhist . I repeat - communism is dead. Dead as a fish on the beach . But totalitarianism still exists . Not in America - YET.
 

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None of these things listed has ever turned America into a communist dictatorship . Obama is no more a Marxist or communist than Pope Francis is a Buddhist . I repeat - communism is dead. Dead as a fish on the beach . But totalitarianism still exists . Not in America - YET.

It won't happen in the West. The ironic thing is that folk like aCW & the rabid fundamentalist sort have so much more akin with states like North Korea while still going on about the American constitution et al.

Can't make this stuff up.
 

northwye

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Dean Gotcher is known by some Christians. For example, when I was on a Christian Forum called Talk Jesus a moderator told me in no uncertain terms that posting about Gotcher was not allowed there, which is interesting. Why is Dean Gotcher rejected on Talk Jesus?

Gotcher became interested in the type of arguments that Christians make when they are arguing against the meanings of scripture. He came to realize that what they were doing was the Marxist version of the Hegelian dialectic.

"In the eyes of the dialectical philosophy, nothing is established for
all time, nothing is absolute or sacred." (Karl Marx)

The Marxist dialectic is a way of making arguments against that which is absolute - as far as truth or morality are concerned. Gotcher found some examples of this type of argument in Genesis 3: 1-6 and in the dialogue between the Pharisees and Christ in John 8.

Gotcher was in a Christian seminary for a while and learned Greek. He found in the Greek for I Timothy 6: 20-21 a reference to the Greek philosophy of the dialectic which existed before the time of Christ. The key Greek word is αντιθεσεις, or anti-thesis.

"O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: 21. Which some professing have erred concerning the faith."

The English translation does not make use of the Greek word αντιθεσεις, translating it as opposition.

.There are other Greek words used in the New Testament which mean opposition, such as anthistémi, antidiatithémi, antipolítef̱si̱, or enantío̱si̱. Antithesis is a specific word used in Greek philosophy in relation to the dialectic.

The word διαλεκτική, or dialectic, is not found in Strong's Exhaustive Concordance and is not in the New Testament, only the word αντιθεσεις, or anti-thesis.

Paul gets subtle at times and says things that are over the heads of many or most of his readers. In I Timothy 6: 20-21 he is warning against the use of the dialectic. The dialectic is a way of attacking that which is absolute, like the Word of God.

The dialectic is a part of broader Marxism, and so it is an important part of Transformational Marxism which is not the Communism of Lenin and Stalin. of the Old Soviet Union. The end goal is the same, a totalitarian and collectivist society and a totalitarian world government.

But the Christian and family based individualistic culture of the West must first be destroyed - a leader of Transformational Marxism said it must be abolished - before a totalitarian society and world government can be set up.

The Marxist dialectic is part of that abolishment of the foundations of Western culture, but there are other procedures that Transformational Marxism uses - political correctness is one. Bringing in masses of Islamic "refugees," among whom are an unknown number of terrorists, is another procedure for the abolishment of the culture.

Many do not see now that the abolishment of our culture is a major blow to America and the West. Could it not be the Deadly Wound of Revelation 13: 3 or a part of that Wound?
 

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Despite "aCultureWarrior's" and "Northwye's" protestations to the contrary, capitalism and Marxism are just two sides of the same coin in the eyes of God!

The Bible is quite explicit about the consequences of the love of material wealth and yet we are witnesses to the majority of conservative Christians in America and in this forum placing their faith in that most unrepentant example of the love of material wealth - Donald Trump!
 

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Monopoly capitalists who are the present day financial and corporate elite are using Transformational Marxism to get rid of our culture so that they can bring in a totalitarian world government. This does not mean that the elite are Marxists.

My introduction to Transformational Marxism by talking about Dean Gotcher is not about Communism which has been seen in the Soviet Union, in Red China, in North Korea, etc.

I am not sure exactly what led Dean Gotcher to focus on Transformational Marxism, when, in fact, the churches know almost nothing about it and would tend to deny it even exists. You can find many Transformational Marxists of several different varieties in areas of study like psychology, sociology, urban planning, etc in the universities. But Gotcher's experience was in Christian Bible colleges and in a seminary he has never identified.

Transformational Marxism began to have an influence upon the U.S. public school system after the sixties, when Benjamin Bloom's two volumes, Taxonomy of Education Goal Objectives came out in 1956 and in 1964.

The Baby Boomer generation was the first to be influenced by Transformational Marxism in the educational system. It may be that some of the older Baby Boomers are not as influenced by Transformational Marxism not called such, but taught in the public schools. And it may be that the children of the Baby Boomers are even more under that influence than their parents,

And - we know that following the sixties the universities become more and more institutions for the promotion of the Marxist Left and of political correctness as an attitude and belief changing propaganda procedure.

The Los Angeles Times has been doing a poll on 3,000 people. The poll regularly asks "...about their support for Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump or other candidates as well as their likelihood of actually casting a ballot." And this very small sample is also broken down by age groups, educational level, race, gender, income, etc..

The predictions for the different age and educational level groups, from what is said above on the Baby Boomers and their parent generations, are:.

l. The Baby Boomers, who are older than 65, and those of the generations born before World War II, will as a group show more support for Trump and will be more consistent in supporting him over time. The two age groups under 65 will show more variability over time, and the difference between Clinton and Trump supporters will be a smaller percentage than for the older age group.

2. Those with college degrees will show greater support for Clinton than those who do not have college degrees.

The most recent poll results for the 3,000 sample are at: http://graphics.latimes.com/.../.

The 18-34 age group did show greater variability over time in support for Hillary or Trump, and with only very small differences. The 35-64 also showed very small difference in preference for Clinton or Trump, though the 35-64 group did end up with a small preference for Trump. Unlike the two younger age groups, the over 65 group showed a consistent preference for Trump over time and ended up with a 48.7 to a 43.7 lead for Trump.

.Consistent with the prediction that people with college degrees would show a clear preference for Clinton, the data show a large difference between preference for Clinton over Trump, which is consistent over time, with a recent high for Clinton at 50.2 percent compared to 37.2 percent for Trump.

Remember, though, that this data is for California voters. The California findings may hold up for several NE states and for the upper Midwest states of Wisconsin and Minnesota and maybe Michigan.

The 2016 election is probably the most divisive American election since 1860, when Lincoln won over three opponents who divided the opposition to him. Southern Democrat John C. Breckinridge, Constitutional Union candidate John Bell, and Northern Democrat Stephen Douglas all opposed Abraham Lincoln, whose win set off the Civil War.

I caught something that Julian Assange said on an Internet site today about one of the 2016 candidates that if elected this candidate who is a demon will put nooses on our necks. Lincoln's election in 1860 resulted in the death of millions of Americans.

Yet that election of Lincoln and the war which followed did not destroy the foundations of our culture;it did not severely diminish the family or the Christian Gospel. It was not a Deadly Wound to American culture. It did start us on the road to federal government supremacy over the states.
 
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"I caught something that Julian Assange said on an Internet site today about one of the 2016 candidates that if elected this candidate who is a demon will put nooses on our necks. Lincoln's election in 1860 resulted in the death of millions of Americans."

Really? Julian Assange?

One of the candidates is really a demon? Oh my.

Pardon me while I think you are just silly.
 

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mocrats-asked-probe-Trump-s-links-Russia.html

"Julian Assange ripped into (Jezebel) while discussing 2016 election
Said she is 'a demon' who 'will put a noose around everyone's necks'
Accused her of stirring up 'hysteria over Russia' after linking Wikileaks' DNC email disclosure to the Kremlin.
He also appeared to defend Trump, saying he has no known links to Russia."

In I Kings 19: 1–2: “Ahab told Jezebel all that Elijah had done, and how he had killed all the prophets with the sword. Then Jezebel sent a messenger to Elijah, saying, "So may the gods do to me and more also, if I do not make your life as the life of one of them by this time tomorrow."

To escape from the death threat by Jezebel, Elijah went a day’s journey into the wilderness and sat down under a juniper tree, and "...he requested for himself that he might die; and said, It is enough; now, O LORD, take away my life; for I am not better than my fathers." (I Kings 19: 4)

Assange is politically incorrect in the eyes of those who get their ideas from the Government-Media-Complex.

Again, the 2016 election is the most divisive one since Lincoln was elected in 1860. Part of the dividing of the country is that more and more people are waking up, while a large percentage of the people are still under control of the mainstream media.

http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/julian-assange-hillary-clinton-noose-demon-wikileaks/

"Julian Assange: U.S. media will 'put nooses around everyone’s necks' by being soft on (Jezebel)
Andrew Couts —
Aug 31 at 10:35PM | Last updated Sept 1 at 2:28AM"

http://www.gallup.com/poll/185927/americans-trust-media-remains-historical-low.aspx

"Americans' Trust in Media Remains at Historical Low"

"Four in 10 Americans say they have "a great deal" or "a fair amount" of trust and confidence in the mass media to report the news fully, accurately and fairly."
 

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I don't have the link now, but there was a study done on the support that Trump has on Facebook, which shows that a larger percentage of Facebook users prefer Trump than the recent polls indicate.

Here, for example, is a post on Facebook, on a group, from August 28, 2016: "Nationalism is the answer and the only solution to the Globalist destruction of our nations, our race and culture. The alliance between the Cultural Marxist left and the Globalist international financiers is toxic and is poisoning all that is healthy in the world."

The "Cultural Marxist left" is Transformational Marxism, with its political correctness propaganda system, which came out of the Frankfurt School after 1950 and the book, The Authoritarian Personality. This important book claimed to be on personality-social psychology, and which influenced a generation of personality and social psychologists. And some educational psychologists like Benjamin Bloom and his team were influenced by it, who created the Taxonomy of Educational Objectives, 1956 and 1964, by which all American teachers must be certified.

The inclusion of race above, in saying that Cultural Marxism has destroyed our culture shows a lack of understanding of political correctness and its use of racism. Political correctness, from Marxism, has attacked the white race, but the counterattack against that Marxism is not to emphasize protection of any one race, but to protect our Christian and family based culture.

Political correctness especially in the Democratic Party controlled large cities has destroyed the Black family, and helped to bring about the serious division we face now in the Fall of 2016. The Marxist Left is very anti-Christian and this is partly why Christians need to wake up to that and stop being influenced by the media.
 

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The "Cultural Marxist left" is Transformational Marxism, with its political correctness propaganda system, which came out of the Frankfurt School after 1950 and the book, The Authoritarian Personality. This important book claimed to be on personality-social psychology, and which influenced a generation of personality and social psychologists. And some educational psychologists like Benjamin Bloom and his team were influenced by it, who created the Taxonomy of Educational Objectives, 1956 and 1964, by which all American teachers must be certified.

I'm sorry, but do you have any independent source for this nonsense? A book from 50+ years ago, "by which all American teachers must be certified"? If so I'd like to ask my teacher wife whether she is familiar with that book.

And please note that your "Christian culture" rather than supporting culture throughout the world has done much to destroy any particular culture that was not white. How Christian is that?
 
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