Changed it for ya!
The Late Great Urantia Revelation
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Changed it for ya!
How many 'UFOs' have you taken a ride on?
None, I don't believe in UFO's.
Jesus proved your theory wrong long ago, but superstition is hard to break.
What is nature?
(56.5) 4:2.1 "Nature is in a limited sense the physical habit of God. The conduct, or action, of God is qualified and provisionally modified by the experimental plans and the evolutionary patterns of a local universe, a constellation, a system, or a planet. God acts in accordance with a well-defined, unchanging, immutable law throughout the wide-spreading master universe; but he modifies the patterns of his action so as to contribute to the co-ordinate and balanced conduct of each universe, constellation, system, planet, and personality in accordance with the local objects, aims, and plans of the finite projects of evolutionary unfolding.
(56.6) 4:2.2 Therefore, nature, as mortal man understands it, presents the underlying foundation and fundamental background of a changeless Deity and his immutable laws, modified by, fluctuating because of, and experiencing upheavals through, the working of the local plans, purposes, patterns, and conditions which have been inaugurated and are being carried out by the local universe, constellation, system, and planetary forces and personalities. For example: As God’s laws have been ordained in Nebadon, they are modified by the plans established by the Creator Son and Creative Spirit of this local universe; and in addition to all this the operation of these laws has been further influenced by the errors, defaults, and insurrections of certain beings resident upon your planet and belonging to your immediate planetary system of Satania.
(56.7) 4:2.3 Nature is a time-space resultant of two cosmic factors: first, the immutability, perfection, and rectitude of Paradise Deity, and second, the experimental plans, executive blunders, insurrectionary errors, incompleteness of development, and imperfection of wisdom of the extra-Paradise creatures, from the highest to the lowest. Nature therefore carries a uniform, unchanging, majestic, and marvelous thread of perfection from the circle of eternity; but in each universe, on each planet, and in each individual life, this nature is modified, qualified, and perchance marred by the acts, the mistakes, and the disloyalties of the creatures of the evolutionary systems and universes; and therefore must nature ever be of a changing mood, whimsical withal, though stable underneath, and varied in accordance with the operating procedures of a local universe.
(57.1) 4:2.4 Nature is the perfection of Paradise divided by the incompletion, evil, and sin of the unfinished universes. This quotient is thus expressive of both the perfect and the partial, of both the eternal and the temporal. Continuing evolution modifies nature by augmenting the content of Paradise perfection and by diminishing the content of the evil, error, and disharmony of relative reality.
(57.2) 4:2.5 God is not personally present in nature or in any of the forces of nature, for the phenomenon of nature is the superimposition of the imperfections of progressive evolution and, sometimes, the consequences of insurrectionary rebellion, upon the Paradise foundations of God’s universal law. As it appears on such a world as Urantia, nature can never be the adequate expression, the true representation, the faithful portrayal, of an all-wise and infinite God.
(57.3) 4:2.6 Nature, on your world, is a qualification of the laws of perfection by the evolutionary plans of the local universe. What a travesty to worship nature because it is in a limited, qualified sense pervaded by God; because it is a phase of the universal and, therefore, divine power! Nature also is a manifestation of the unfinished, the incomplete, the imperfect outworkings of the development, growth, and progress of a universe experiment in cosmic evolution.
(57.4) 4:2.7 The apparent defects of the natural world are not indicative of any such corresponding defects in the character of God. Rather are such observed imperfections merely the inevitable stop-moments in the exhibition of the ever-moving reel of infinity picturization. It is these very defect-interruptions of perfection-continuity which make it possible for the finite mind of material man to catch a fleeting glimpse of divine reality in time and space. The material manifestations of divinity appear defective to the evolutionary mind of man only because mortal man persists in viewing the phenomena of nature through natural eyes, human vision unaided by morontia mota or by revelation, its compensatory substitute on the worlds of time.
(57.5) 4:2.8 And nature is marred, her beautiful face is scarred, her features are seared, by the rebellion, the misconduct, the misthinking of the myriads of creatures who are a part of nature, but who have contributed to her disfigurement in time. No, nature is not God. Nature is not an object of worship. UB 1955
God and Nature
(56.5) 4:2.1 "Nature is in a limited sense the physical habit of God. The conduct, or action, of God is qualified and provisionally modified by the experimental plans and the evolutionary patterns of a local universe, a constellation, a system, or a planet. God acts in accordance with a well-defined, unchanging, immutable law throughout the wide-spreading master universe; but he modifies the patterns of his action so as to contribute to the co-ordinate and balanced conduct of each universe, constellation, system, planet, and personality in accordance with the local objects, aims, and plans of the finite projects of evolutionary unfolding.
(56.6) 4:2.2 Therefore, nature, as mortal man understands it, presents the underlying foundation and fundamental background of a changeless Deity and his immutable laws, modified by, fluctuating because of, and experiencing upheavals through, the working of the local plans, purposes, patterns, and conditions which have been inaugurated and are being carried out by the local universe, constellation, system, and planetary forces and personalities. For example: As God’s laws have been ordained in Nebadon, they are modified by the plans established by the Creator Son and Creative Spirit of this local universe; and in addition to all this the operation of these laws has been further influenced by the errors, defaults, and insurrections of certain beings resident upon your planet and belonging to your immediate planetary system of Satania.
(56.7) 4:2.3 Nature is a time-space resultant of two cosmic factors: first, the immutability, perfection, and rectitude of Paradise Deity, and second, the experimental plans, executive blunders, insurrectionary errors, incompleteness of development, and imperfection of wisdom of the extra-Paradise creatures, from the highest to the lowest. Nature therefore carries a uniform, unchanging, majestic, and marvelous thread of perfection from the circle of eternity; but in each universe, on each planet, and in each individual life, this nature is modified, qualified, and perchance marred by the acts, the mistakes, and the disloyalties of the creatures of the evolutionary systems and universes; and therefore must nature ever be of a changing mood, whimsical withal, though stable underneath, and varied in accordance with the operating procedures of a local universe.
(57.1) 4:2.4 Nature is the perfection of Paradise divided by the incompletion, evil, and sin of the unfinished universes. This quotient is thus expressive of both the perfect and the partial, of both the eternal and the temporal. Continuing evolution modifies nature by augmenting the content of Paradise perfection and by diminishing the content of the evil, error, and disharmony of relative reality.
(57.2) 4:2.5 God is not personally present in nature or in any of the forces of nature, for the phenomenon of nature is the superimposition of the imperfections of progressive evolution and, sometimes, the consequences of insurrectionary rebellion, upon the Paradise foundations of God’s universal law. As it appears on such a world as Urantia, nature can never be the adequate expression, the true representation, the faithful portrayal, of an all-wise and infinite God.
(57.3) 4:2.6 Nature, on your world, is a qualification of the laws of perfection by the evolutionary plans of the local universe. What a travesty to worship nature because it is in a limited, qualified sense pervaded by God; because it is a phase of the universal and, therefore, divine power! Nature also is a manifestation of the unfinished, the incomplete, the imperfect outworkings of the development, growth, and progress of a universe experiment in cosmic evolution.
(57.4) 4:2.7 The apparent defects of the natural world are not indicative of any such corresponding defects in the character of God. Rather are such observed imperfections merely the inevitable stop-moments in the exhibition of the ever-moving reel of infinity picturization. It is these very defect-interruptions of perfection-continuity which make it possible for the finite mind of material man to catch a fleeting glimpse of divine reality in time and space. The material manifestations of divinity appear defective to the evolutionary mind of man only because mortal man persists in viewing the phenomena of nature through natural eyes, human vision unaided by morontia mota or by revelation, its compensatory substitute on the worlds of time.
(57.5) 4:2.8 And nature is marred, her beautiful face is scarred, her features are seared, by the rebellion, the misconduct, the misthinking of the myriads of creatures who are a part of nature, but who have contributed to her disfigurement in time. No, nature is not God. Nature is not an object of worship. UB 1955
Aimiel
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Jesus spoke and what He said became our Old Testament and New Testament. Re-writing Scripture and changing what has been written is demonic doctrine, whether you can understand it or accept it is your problem. Urantia is from hell.
I drank what?
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i see, so then Poe's Law?
i'll check out the UB right after I'm finished with my dissertation on the Mormon Bible, and Dianetics, the cat in the hat... etc...
it's a really long list, aint nobody got time for that!
are you sure you don't wanna just keep rehashing the quran or perhaps some catholic catechisms ?
i'm sure many years from now the UB will have just as many followers, but we can only handle so many legions at a time...
*sigh*...
just curious, are yall trying to hit the reset button? i think you're getting warmer
//not in the good sense
I drank what?
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Some differences with Christianity include: (the more subtle the better ??) *wink wink nudge nudge*
Jesus' crucifixion is not considered an atonement for the sins of humanity.[68] The crucifixion is taught to be an outcome of the fears of religious leaders of the day, who regarded his teachings as a threat to their positions of authority.
Jesus is considered the human incarnation of "Michael of Nebadon," one of more than 700,000 "Paradise Sons" of God, or "Creator Sons." Jesus is not considered the second person of the Trinity as he is in Christianity. The book refers to the Eternal Son as the second person of the Trinity.[86]
Jesus was born on earth through natural means of conception instead of a virgin birth.[87]
Jesus did not walk on water or perform some of the miracles that are attributed to him in the Bible.[88]
so if anyone is interested in a 7th day adventist's twist on Calvinism with a nice mormon quality to it
the UB may be just for you...
have fun, good luck
Jesus' crucifixion is not considered an atonement for the sins of humanity.[68] The crucifixion is taught to be an outcome of the fears of religious leaders of the day, who regarded his teachings as a threat to their positions of authority.
Jesus is considered the human incarnation of "Michael of Nebadon," one of more than 700,000 "Paradise Sons" of God, or "Creator Sons." Jesus is not considered the second person of the Trinity as he is in Christianity. The book refers to the Eternal Son as the second person of the Trinity.[86]
Jesus was born on earth through natural means of conception instead of a virgin birth.[87]
Jesus did not walk on water or perform some of the miracles that are attributed to him in the Bible.[88]
so if anyone is interested in a 7th day adventist's twist on Calvinism with a nice mormon quality to it
the UB may be just for you...
have fun, good luck
However, you do believe in, "Cosmic Entities" that write fictional
books through 'human conduits!" That's about the same thing?
Urantians like Freelight and Caino aren't even welcome
on this forum! They just can't take a hint!
on this forum! They just can't take a hint!
Did you actually say that? Cosmic entities? Human conduits?
If you read the Christian bible you will find prophets, celestial beings, Gods, God incarnate etc.
You give Trolls a bad name! :hammer:
Mesangers of revelation are always treated badly by ignorant people like you. It's far worse for deciples of Christ around the world.
Aimiel
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These things are true. Urantia holds NO Truth. God spoke in The Holy Scriptures through holy men of old, who wrote exactly what He said. There are no mistakes in His Word. He can transmit Truth through His Prophets at His Will. The 'celestial beings' of The Holy Scriptures are His Angels. He did incarnate Himself in The Form of Flesh: Jesus, Who is Christ. Nothing described in Urantia relates to, contains or reflects His Truth. It robs from It, defaces It and attempts to remove It's Power, which lies in Jesus' Blood.
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Without having faith in the overcoming Power in Jesus' Blood, no one can stand against the devil. This is paramount to Christians, especially today.
The "fictional" UB can hardly be compared to the "Word of God?" Your
UB Entities spoke through a sleeping human conduit while some
ignorant "secretary" wrote down every "STUPID" thing the 'supposed'
Cosmic Characters spoke! That's the history of your "DOPEY" beliefs!
Anyone can Google those facts on the Internet? What a "DOPE" that
secretary must have been? An IQ the size of her shoe? Probably got
below minimum wages with NO benefits?
Knight (the owner of this forum) has said that, you guys are "NUTS!"
Is he and the mods ignorant too?
Caino, you and Freelight aren't, "Messengers of Truth!" You're just
a couple of "Cosmic Nutso's!!!" I might add; dopey, ignorant, immature,
ridiculous, easily manipulated, silly, and not extremely intelligent!
Sorry Caino but, you and Freelight are not respected on this forum! You're
both a couple of "cultists" on a Christian forum! You can't even complain
about what posters are saying about you guys because, you'll be ignored!
both a couple of "cultists" on a Christian forum! You can't even complain
about what posters are saying about you guys because, you'll be ignored!
freelight
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freelight
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atonement without blood.............
atonement without blood.............
See here (all linked). Blood atonement belief and concept already covered. No need to re-invent the wheel, and go in more circles.
Remember, 'blood' is symbolic.
You can have faith in any thing or substance, but the only faith that avails is that placed in 'God' alone, as you would agree. Exalting the blood of a man as something magical or divine in power, can distract one from a more original and universal power, that of God (Spirit) alone. Only that Spirit is Life. We can assume 'blood' is a symbol for the life-plasm of the Spirit, as it gives life to flesh, but this is allegorical.
Faith can be placed in things or substances, but these are secondary or mere accessories in one's religious culture, practice or mythology. We consider metaphors, archetypes, shadows, allegory and the like. Such is the play of language. Such personal affections or assumptions have their place, but when exalted to the status of absolute truth, these becomes 'idols' more or less. They are only relative terms and meanings within the Greater Whole.
pj
atonement without blood.............
See here (all linked). Blood atonement belief and concept already covered. No need to re-invent the wheel, and go in more circles.
Remember, 'blood' is symbolic.
You can have faith in any thing or substance, but the only faith that avails is that placed in 'God' alone, as you would agree. Exalting the blood of a man as something magical or divine in power, can distract one from a more original and universal power, that of God (Spirit) alone. Only that Spirit is Life. We can assume 'blood' is a symbol for the life-plasm of the Spirit, as it gives life to flesh, but this is allegorical.
Faith can be placed in things or substances, but these are secondary or mere accessories in one's religious culture, practice or mythology. We consider metaphors, archetypes, shadows, allegory and the like. Such is the play of language. Such personal affections or assumptions have their place, but when exalted to the status of absolute truth, these becomes 'idols' more or less. They are only relative terms and meanings within the Greater Whole.
pj
Of course, you're speaking of the UB!
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