The Late Great Urantia Revelation

[Caino]

Come on that's not all, quote the part where the other weirdos sped up the corruption of Jesus' dead body.

You know, the one David said never saw corruption.

I can dig it out if you deny it.

I see it no need.

Are you talking about the exaggerated, corrupt David who named a city after the God "Baal" in honor of his troops, a polyglot assortment of malcontents? That's in the bible to, when the editors were recasting Hebrew history in Babylon, they left some of the old matter of fact stuff there.

 

[1Mind1Spirit]

2. The Material Body of Jesus​

(2022.5) 189:2.1 At ten minutes past three o’clock, as the resurrected Jesus fraternized with the assembled morontia personalities from the seven mansion worlds of Satania, the chief of archangels — the angels of the resurrection — approached Gabriel and asked for the mortal body of Jesus. Said the chief of the archangels: “We may not participate in the morontia resurrection of the bestowal experience of Michael our sovereign, but we would have his mortal remains put in our custody for immediate dissolution. We do not propose to employ our technique of dematerialization; we merely wish to invoke the process of accelerated time. It is enough that we have seen the Sovereign live and die on Urantia; the hosts of heaven would be spared the memory of enduring the sight of the slow decay of the human form of the Creator and Upholder of a universe. In the name of the celestial intelligences of all Nebadon, I ask for a mandate giving me the custody of the mortal body of Jesus of Nazareth and empowering us to proceed with its immediate dissolution.”

(2023.1) 189:2.2 And when Gabriel had conferred with the senior Most High of Edentia, the archangel spokesman for the celestial hosts was given permission to make such disposition of the physical remains of Jesus as he might determine.

(2023.2) 189:2.3 After the chief of archangels had been granted this request, he summoned to his assistance many of his fellows, together with a numerous host of the representatives of all orders of celestial personalities, and then, with the aid of the Urantia midwayers, proceeded to take possession of Jesus’ physical body. This body of death was a purely material creation; it was physical and literal; it could not be removed from the tomb as the morontia form of the resurrection had been able to escape the sealed sepulchre. By the aid of certain morontia auxiliary personalities, the morontia form can be made at one time as of the spirit so that it can become indifferent to ordinary matter, while at another time it can become discernible and contactable to material beings, such as the mortals of the realm.

(2023.3) 189:2.4 As they made ready to remove the body of Jesus from the tomb preparatory to according it the dignified and reverent disposal of near-instantaneous dissolution, it was assigned the secondary Urantia midwayers to roll away the stones from the entrance of the tomb. The larger of these two stones was a huge circular affair, much like a millstone, and it moved in a groove chiseled out of the rock, so that it could be rolled back and forth to open or close the tomb. When the watching Jewish guards and the Roman soldiers, in the dim light of the morning, saw this huge stone begin to roll away from the entrance of the tomb, apparently of its own accord — without any visible means to account for such motion — they were seized with fear and panic, and they fled in haste from the scene. The Jews fled to their homes, afterward going back to report these doings to their captain at the temple. The Romans fled to the fortress of Antonia and reported what they had seen to the centurion as soon as he arrived on duty.

(2023.4) 189:2.5 The Jewish leaders began the sordid business of supposedly getting rid of Jesus by offering bribes to the traitorous Judas, and now, when confronted with this embarrassing situation, instead of thinking of punishing the guards who deserted their post, they resorted to bribing these guards and the Roman soldiers. They paid each of these twenty men a sum of money and instructed them to say to all: “While we slept during the nighttime, his disciples came upon us and took away the body.” And the Jewish leaders made solemn promises to the soldiers to defend them before Pilate in case it should ever come to the governor’s knowledge that they had accepted a bribe.

(2023.5) 189:2.6 The Christian belief in the resurrection of Jesus has been based on the fact of the “empty tomb.” It was indeed a fact that the tomb was empty, but this is not the truth of the resurrection. The tomb was truly empty when the first believers arrived, and this fact, associated with that of the undoubted resurrection of the Master, led to the formulation of a belief which was not true: the teaching that the material and mortal body of Jesus was raised from the grave. Truth having to do with spiritual realities and eternal values cannot always be built up by a combination of apparent facts. Although individual facts may be materially true, it does not follow that the association of a group of facts must necessarily lead to truthful spiritual conclusions.

(2023.6) 189:2.7 The tomb of Joseph was empty, not because the body of Jesus had been rehabilitated or resurrected, but because the celestial hosts had been granted their request to afford it a special and unique dissolution, a return of the “dust to dust,” without the intervention of the delays of time and without the operation of the ordinary and visible processes of mortal decay and material corruption.

(2024.1) 189:2.8 The mortal remains of Jesus underwent the same natural process of elemental disintegration as characterizes all human bodies on earth except that, in point of time, this natural mode of dissolution was greatly accelerated, hastened to that point where it became well-nigh instantaneous.

(2024.2) 189:2.9 The true evidences of the resurrection of Michael are spiritual in nature, albeit this teaching is corroborated by the testimony of many mortals of the realm who met, recognized, and communed with the resurrected morontia Master. He became a part of the personal experience of almost one thousand human beings before he finally took leave of Urantia.

Clearly goes against David's prophecy of the Holy One not seeing corruption.

Now, while I have yer attention Caino, what about these miracles you and the urantia writers have performed in Christ's name that make you not against us believers?

Also what about those glaciers quickly chasing them Canadian chicks down here?

 

[1Mind1Spirit]

There's some of it Jeremy, tole yuh I hit the nail on the head.

I'm just glad Caino hauled that garbage outta the dump.

There's only so much poison I wanna drink at one time.

I much prefer bruisin' the snake's head.

 

[Caino]

Clearly goes against David's prophecy of the Holy One not seeing corruption.

Now, while I have yer attention Caino, what about these miracles you and the urantia writers have performed in Christ's name that make you not against us believers?

Also what about those glaciers quickly chasing them Canadian chicks down here?

The problem with disagreeing with something before you read it is that you miss what it actually says:

“We may not participate in the morontia resurrection of the bestowal experience of Michael our sovereign, but we would have his mortal remains put in our custody for immediate dissolution. We do not propose to employ our technique of dematerialization; we merely wish to invoke the process of accelerated time. It is enough that we have seen the Sovereign live and die on Urantia; the hosts of heaven would be spared the memory of enduring the sight of the slow decay of the human form of the Creator and Upholder of a universe. In the name of the celestial intelligences of all Nebadon, I ask for a mandate giving me the custody of the mortal body of Jesus of Nazareth and empowering us to proceed with its immediate dissolution.”​

The mortal body of Jesus did not see corruption (decay).

 

[Caino]

Clearly goes against David's prophecy of the Holy One not seeing corruption.

Now, while I have yer attention Caino, what about these miracles you and the urantia writers have performed in Christ's name that make you not against us believers?

Also what about those glaciers quickly chasing them Canadian chicks down here?

I don't understand the highlighted question, can you run that through a translator for me, country to English?

* Glaciers grow and recede over long periods of time, but if you are a 6 day creationist it's all kind of moot.

 

[Caino]

It is interesting to note the accounts of the resurrection of Lazarus in the Bible compared to Jesus when considering what the UB explains about the new form that Jesus appeared in:



43 When he had said this, Jesus called in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!” 44 The dead man came out, his hands and feet wrapped with strips of linen, and a cloth around his face. Jesus said to them, “Take off the grave clothes and let him go.”


At Jesus' tomb:

"So Peter and the other disciple started for the tomb. 4 Both were running, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first. 5 He bent over and looked in at the strips of linen lying there but did not go in. 6 Then Simon Peter came along behind him and went straight into the tomb. He saw the strips of linen lying there, as well as the cloth that had been wrapped around Jesus’ head. The cloth was still lying in its place, separate from the linen. 8 Finally the other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, also went inside.

11 Now Mary stood outside the tomb crying. As she wept, she bent over to look into the tomb 12 and saw two angels in white, seated where Jesus’ body had been, one at the head and the other at the foot.

13 They asked her, “Woman, why are you crying?”

“They have taken my Lord away,” she said, “and I don’t know where they have put him.” 14 At this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there, but she did not realize that it was Jesus.

 

[Caino]

I invite everyone to revisit the OP, Freelight took the time to make a better OP more suited to the thread. We thank him for his work.

 

[Caino]

This is an important explanation, it applies to all revelations and their limitations.

Students of the UB know that in the distant future students of the UB will have to open their minds to additional information that will "conceptually" conflict with the content of the UB.

(2023.5) 189:2.6 "The Christian belief in the resurrection of Jesus has been based on the fact of the “empty tomb.” It was indeed a fact that the tomb was empty, but this is not the truth of the resurrection. The tomb was truly empty when the first believers arrived, and this fact, associated with that of the undoubted resurrection of the Master, led to the formulation of a belief which was not true: the teaching that the material and mortal body of Jesus was raised from the grave. Truth having to do with spiritual realities and eternal values cannot always be built up by a combination of apparent facts. Although individual facts may be materially true, it does not follow that the association of a group of facts must necessarily lead to truthful spiritual conclusions."​

 

[meshak]

What do you mean by pro- millitary?

they approve of their members joined the military.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I invite everyone to revisit the OP, Freelight took the time to make a better OP more suited to the thread. We thank him for his work.

Nah! GM won't be thanking Freelight, any day soon! Even if he worked
24/7 for 8 months! That would be like thanking someone for spray
painting graffiti all over their home!

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

they approve of their members joined the military.

What do ya think of main-streamers, and huge Thanksgiving Day
balloons?

 

[Caino]

Nah! GM won't be thanking Freelight, any day soon! Even if he worked
24/7 for 8 months! That would be like thanking someone for spray
painting graffiti all over their home!

You just aren't a very nice person. Often religion makes people more meaner.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

You just aren't a very nice person. Often religion makes people more meaner.

Nah! I don't think that plays any part in this! But, you're welcome
to run with that, if you think that will help your cause!

 

[Zeke]

they approve of their members joined the military.

They are Patriotic.

PA=pa/father/papal/papacy/papa-pope.

Trio=3/trinity/the triple crown:Rome, DC, London, total control system.

Tic(k)=a blood sucking parasite.

 

[Sandycane]

Whats wrong with a paraphrased version of something?

You don't see anything wrong with it? ...

Originally Posted by freelight View Post
Hi Sandy,

... Part 4 of the papers is not what it appears to be, it's really an expanded, plagiarized and fictitiously embellished version of Jesus life, much from and contorting the NT gospel accounts. The fakers claim to be using all the extant knowledge and records and adding to it as they feel the need (from other sources), so that would naturally include any gospel-accounts existing, as well what was available from phony records and the delusions from other schizophrenics not present at the time of Jesus bestowal -

It is what it is,...believe it to be true by the revelators claim, or take it as inspired human embellishments or religious fiction,...each are free to take it or leave it since, in reality, it is meaningless anyway.
...

... deliberate deception and misinformation for one thing.

 

[1Mind1Spirit]

It is interesting to note the accounts of the resurrection of Lazarus in the Bible compared to Jesus when considering what the UB explains about the new form that Jesus appeared in:



43 When he had said this, Jesus called in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!” 44 The dead man came out, his hands and feet wrapped with strips of linen, and a cloth around his face. Jesus said to them, “Take off the grave clothes and let him go.”


At Jesus' tomb:

"So Peter and the other disciple started for the tomb. 4 Both were running, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first. 5 He bent over and looked in at the strips of linen lying there but did not go in. 6 Then Simon Peter came along behind him and went straight into the tomb. He saw the strips of linen lying there, as well as the cloth that had been wrapped around Jesus’ head. The cloth was still lying in its place, separate from the linen. 8 Finally the other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, also went inside.

11 Now Mary stood outside the tomb crying. As she wept, she bent over to look into the tomb 12 and saw two angels in white, seated where Jesus’ body had been, one at the head and the other at the foot.

13 They asked her, “Woman, why are you crying?”

“They have taken my Lord away,” she said, “and I don’t know where they have put him.” 14 At this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there, but she did not realize that it was Jesus.

Moot point.

How yuh reckon Jesus was able to walk through crowds of people wanting to stone him?

 

[1Mind1Spirit]

I don't understand the highlighted question, can you run that through a translator for me, country to English?

* Glaciers grow and recede over long periods of time, but if you are a 6 day creationist it's all kind of moot.

That's right, and yer urantia writers said a glacier quickly chased neandertahls and a superior race together.

All it takes is two or three days for you to get selective memory?

You do realize that somebody can read a weeks worth of posts in about 20 minutes hunh?

Do you know how stupid that makes you look when you claim ignorance when I refer to something we posted 15 minutes ago? :rotfl:

 

[1Mind1Spirit]

The problem with disagreeing with something before you read it is that you miss what it actually says:

“We may not participate in the morontia resurrection of the bestowal experience of Michael our sovereign, but we would have his mortal remains put in our custody for immediate dissolution. We do not propose to employ our technique of dematerialization; we merely wish to invoke the process of accelerated time. It is enough that we have seen the Sovereign live and die on Urantia; the hosts of heaven would be spared the memory of enduring the sight of the slow decay of the human form of the Creator and Upholder of a universe. In the name of the celestial intelligences of all Nebadon, I ask for a mandate giving me the custody of the mortal body of Jesus of Nazareth and empowering us to proceed with its immediate dissolution.”​

The mortal body of Jesus did not see corruption (decay).

Dosent matter if it happened in a nano second, lol, or a year.

Yer scenario says the Holy One saw corruption.

 

[1Mind1Spirit]

This is an important explanation, it applies to all revelations and their limitations.

Students of the UB know that in the distant future students of the UB will have to open their minds to additional information that will "conceptually" conflict with the content of the UB.

(2023.5) 189:2.6 "The Christian belief in the resurrection of Jesus has been based on the fact of the “empty tomb.” It was indeed a fact that the tomb was empty, but this is not the truth of the resurrection. The tomb was truly empty when the first believers arrived, and this fact, associated with that of the undoubted resurrection of the Master, led to the formulation of a belief which was not true: the teaching that the material and mortal body of Jesus was raised from the grave. Truth having to do with spiritual realities and eternal values cannot always be built up by a combination of apparent facts. Although individual facts may be materially true, it does not follow that the association of a group of facts must necessarily lead to truthful spiritual conclusions."​

Like I said, we can lie when it suits us.

Come on man, wake up.

 

[1Mind1Spirit]

they approve of their members joined the military.

You'll have to do better than that, God recruited a Roman centurion into His congregation.

I'd say that was a sign of approval wouldn't you?