AIG is run by quacks. its a laughing stock. I feel sorry for the poor people who
That's your belief but it doesn't make it so. Educated Christians trust God but realize the Bibles many errors, contradictions and inherent bias.
The Late Great Urantia Revelation
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No, it's not ... no matter how many times your repeat your religious mantra.
So quit making claims and start supporting your idea with arguments. I can tell that you know nothing about the theories behind the radiometric dating of the earth.
Oh the irony.
The UB doesn't claim to be written by God, but it does make much more sense than the Bible books all put together by fallible men.
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Again... claims WITHOUT support. Your opinions are nonsense.
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So your "holy UB" is written by fallible men... but.... you are retarded but funny.
I have studied radiometric dating. The arguments from normal Christians on the subject are straight forward. Your AIG types of rebuttals only impress you while they are a laughing stock to everyone else.
The UB is written by celestial beings for intelligent people.
For someone who actually believes that a 600 year old man rounded up dinosaurs for an ark to call someone retarded is an excessive use of irony!
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Then you did a horrible job.
Whatever that means.
Truth is typically in the minority. I'm fine with that.
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Claims like this are fantasy.
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Read the Bible you moron. Noah did not need to "round up dinosaurs" or any other animal. God sent the animals to the ark:For someone who actually believes that a 600 year old man rounded up dinosaurs for an ark to call someone retarded is an excessive use of irony!
Fallacies won't help you here, Caino.
Of course not.
I'm simply stating the facts.
Sorry, but it doesn't have any such thing.
You seem to have rushed this post and forgot to finish two of your sentences...
It was written by a fallible man/fallible men.
A fairy tale cannot make more sense than reality.
Not very well, it seems.
We're not normal Christians.
Have you noticed that not once have we referred to AiG to make our arguments?
Only the Bible?
Another fairy tale. And a lie.
It was written by human beings, for idiots like yourself.
As RD said, Noah didn't round them up himself. God caused them to come to him.
Either way, God sending dinosaurs to an ark is just an incredibly naïve claim. Then he keeps the Satan alive to start fooling people again after the whole odyssey is finished. But that doesn't even raise a red flag. You guy's would believe anything!
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Another of your millions of personal opinions based on nothing.
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You appeal to the Bible and just say "god wrote it". So you have no room to talk.
You appeal to the Bible and just say "god wrote it". So you have no room to talk.
"but Noah really lived"
Examples such as this appeal to me as a better explanation for how such an unbelievable story was accepted by the common Israelite.
THE FLOODS IN MESOPOTAMIA
78:7.1 'The river dwellers were accustomed to rivers overflowing their banks at certain seasons; these periodic floods were annual events in their lives. But new perils threatened the valley of Mesopotamia as a result of progressive geologic changes to the north.
78:7.2 For thousands of years after the submergence of the first Eden the mountains about the eastern coast of the Mediterranean and those to the northwest and northeast of Mesopotamia continued to rise. This elevation of the highlands was greatly accelerated about 5000 B.C., and this, together with greatly increased snowfall on the northern mountains, caused unprecedented floods each spring throughout the Euphrates valley. These spring floods grew increasingly worse so that eventually the inhabitants of the river regions were driven to the eastern highlands. For almost a thousand years scores of cities were practically deserted because of these extensive deluges.
78:7.3 Almost five thousand years later, as the Hebrew priests in Babylonian captivity sought to trace the Jewish people back to Adam, they found great difficulty in piecing the story together; and it occurred to one of them to abandon the effort, to let the whole world drown in its wickedness at the time of Noah's flood, and thus to be in a better position to trace Abraham right back to one of the three surviving sons of Noah.
78:7.4 The traditions of a time when water covered the whole of the earth's surface are universal. Many races harbor the story of a world-wide flood some time during past ages. The Biblical story of Noah, the ark, and the flood is an invention of the Hebrew priesthood during the Babylonian captivity. There has never been a universal flood since life was established on Urantia. The only time the surface of the earth was completely covered by water was during those Archeozoic ages before the land had begun to appear.
78:7.6 These floods completed the disruption of Andite civilization. With the ending of this period of deluge, the second garden was no more. Only in the south and among the Sumerians did any trace of the former glory remain.
78:7.7 The remnants of this, one of the oldest civilizations, are to be found in these regions of Mesopotamia and to the northeast and northwest. But still older vestiges of the days of Dalamatia exist under the waters of the Persian Gulf, and the first Eden lies submerged under the eastern end of the Mediterranean Sea." UB 1955
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There is tons of evidence to support the "God wrote it" idea. Not that you would understand any of it.
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Who really cares what "appeals to you"? I certainly don't.
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1) I do believe the flood story
2) Whatever derivative ideas I get from that story, do not have to be in conflict with science ideas.
I may not be 100% on page with other Christians, but I didn't lose my faith because of conflicting ideas. You did.
See above.
I don't care. My faith is about the Lord Jesus Christ, not about how old a rock is. You shouldn't be trying to disprove any part of the Bible just to fit your preconceptions.
Which is special pleading: "Our book is written by 'special (nonexistent) beings' which amounts to God having authorized them to pen His biography." You are equivocating (Means you are trying to have your cake and eat it too, while denying God did it prior).
No, believers believe. They do NOT rewrite books to fit their own 'only natural' expectations. Look above, you are still concerned with 'only natural' things. The soul is dead until the Spirit Himself renews it. Your Urantia book is wrong, you cannot 'born again' yourself. A human can 'born' (birth) a human being. Only God can 'born' (birth) what is dead in man. When Jesus told Nicodemus he must be born again, it was something God would have to do, not something Nicodemus could do. This is what is entirely missing from your Urantia book. It is human-centered with human concerns and God is recast for/by humans much like the old Greek gods. The UB is an old story, old attempt, wrong god.
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With 3rd grade grammar? Don't think so. Intelligent people don't put their fingers in their ears. I do grasp and have wrestled with God through the O.T. You? Ran away and found something one step removed from God: "celestial beings" and then call that intelligent :doh:
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