All I have to do is ask very core of Jesus' teachings and if they cannot answer, it is not of Jesus. I know Jesus' teachings very well. You don't have to be bible scholar to find out who are of Jesus or not.
Jesus teachings are simple and clear.
The Late Great Urantia Revelation
- Thread starter Caino
- Start date
- Status
All I have to do is ask very core of Jesus' teachings and if they cannot answer, it is not of Jesus. I know Jesus' teachings very well. You don't have to be bible scholar to find out who are of Jesus or not.
Jesus teachings are simple and clear.
I don't have to kill anyone to protect my child. Your scenario is unrealistic.
Sandycane
Member
I always thought so too.
So do you pretty much discount all the rest of the bible and only follow the "red parts?" What about the OT? Eye for an eye, don't eat pork and all that?
Sandycane
Member
"Unrealistic," really?
Never heard of school shootings?
If you were in a classroom full of kids and an intruder came in with a gun, and you had an opportunity to take out the intruder using deadly force somehow, you would not do it to protect the children?
What if someone tried to kidnap your kid while you were shopping in Walmart?
I discard all the account which do not harmonize with Jesus' word.
Eye for eye is OT teachings, not Jesus' teachings. You don't know much about Jesus' teachings do you? OT teaching is Judaism.
I am Jesus' follower, and not Judaism follower.
Do you follow your child to school with gun to protect him?
Go ahead, be my guest. No one is stopping you.
My kids are done schooling and my grandson is home schooled.
Sandycane
Member
I have grandkids too.
You're dodging the question. Let's move on...
How do you feel about police officers?
I don't get involve with the politics. You seem to forget I am Jesus' follower.
Jesus' followers don't get involve with the politics.
Police is for the world. They exist to protect the world. Good for them.
Sandycane
Member
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
The Jesusonian Gospel..................
The Jesusonian Gospel..................
No, with this condition: since to answer 'yes' would mean I accept the terms, meanings and limitations of such a pre-scribed 'definition'.
Since I've expanded and learned a greater context of religious-freedoms and spiritual frontiers, I'm not limited to that 'context', although I've had wonderful and significant experience in 'God' within that 'cultural-context' and have never denied such, since I consider all 'mile-stone' points or segways in my journey as having their place, so all have some 'value'.
While I have my own understanding and experience of 'Jesus', both human and divine dimensions,...I don't need to call myself a 'Christian', and have not done so here on this forum, for some time now....I did originally identify as a 'Christian(other)', but 'labels' don't necessarily make the book and actions/behaviors of some so called 'Christians' here, and their dogmatic qualifications of using the 'term', distanced me from affiliating with such.
Within a UB context, followers of Jesus who strive to live the religion of Jesus (the way he lived and was loyal to the Father's will), are known as 'Jesusonian' in nature. So the gospel revealed or emphasized in the papers is more 'Jesusonian' than limited to a circumscribed traditional-orthodox Christian 'gospel-definition'.
The Jesusonian Gospel..................
No, with this condition: since to answer 'yes' would mean I accept the terms, meanings and limitations of such a pre-scribed 'definition'.
Since I've expanded and learned a greater context of religious-freedoms and spiritual frontiers, I'm not limited to that 'context', although I've had wonderful and significant experience in 'God' within that 'cultural-context' and have never denied such, since I consider all 'mile-stone' points or segways in my journey as having their place, so all have some 'value'.
While I have my own understanding and experience of 'Jesus', both human and divine dimensions,...I don't need to call myself a 'Christian', and have not done so here on this forum, for some time now....I did originally identify as a 'Christian(other)', but 'labels' don't necessarily make the book and actions/behaviors of some so called 'Christians' here, and their dogmatic qualifications of using the 'term', distanced me from affiliating with such.
Within a UB context, followers of Jesus who strive to live the religion of Jesus (the way he lived and was loyal to the Father's will), are known as 'Jesusonian' in nature. So the gospel revealed or emphasized in the papers is more 'Jesusonian' than limited to a circumscribed traditional-orthodox Christian 'gospel-definition'.
Sandycane
Member
So, someone like you, who follows Jesus can not also be a police officer?
... and there's nothing "political" about police officers - just the opposite in fact, they protect and serve everyone, even those who refuse to protect themselves.
Nope, because I may have to shoot the criminals. that's not my faith.
Yes it is, don't you hear about police militariasm? that all in the news lately.
If you are interested in Jesus' teachings, read Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. His word, teachings are in them.
It is much better than taking my word. Jesus is the great teacher of Himself and His teachings.
Sandycane
Member
Thanks. I appreciate the honesty of your reply and the explanation.
That sounds true Christians. I don't know any Mennonites.
Last edited:
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
prove your claim?
prove your claim?
I answered you here, did you consider all that was shared and my question at the end presented?
I don't see your proof or necessity that it has to somehow be a 'total deception',....I find that term rather incriminating, a claim that has with it the burden of proof.
Not sure what you find disturbing, since your posture here is similar to a fundamentalist evangelical defending the 'inerrant word of God' against deception from the devil, the same bible-thumpers that threaten you with eternal hellfire. I find that an interesting campground for an atheist to hover in.
pj
prove your claim?
I answered you here, did you consider all that was shared and my question at the end presented?
I don't see your proof or necessity that it has to somehow be a 'total deception',....I find that term rather incriminating, a claim that has with it the burden of proof.
Not sure what you find disturbing, since your posture here is similar to a fundamentalist evangelical defending the 'inerrant word of God' against deception from the devil, the same bible-thumpers that threaten you with eternal hellfire. I find that an interesting campground for an atheist to hover in.
pj
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
Sandycane
Member
Thanks, but I am not interested in reading the books of the bible. I am more interested in you at the moment.
What country do you live in? Here in the US we have police officers, sheriff deputies, state troopers, etc who are employed by their city, county, and state. Their job is to protect and serve.
I'm not talking about ISIS, or some other terrorist military thugs in foreign countries.
I'm talking about police officers in the US -
You are saying it is not possible for a person to be a follower of Jesus and also be a police officer?
PneumaPsucheSoma
TOL Subscriber
You've done it now. She'll be on this topic for a century or two now.
One of her pet issues is that Christians cannot serve in any military or law enforcement position. It's one of her several tests of faith.
Anyone who believes differently, even if they never serve in any of those capacities, is a reprobate in her judgment.
- Status