The Jews were 'the dead', in Jesus instruction, 'let the dead bury their dead'.

[jaybird]

Beware of jaybird. He denies both John and Jesus so as to promote his corruption. He also denies the Holy KJV N.T.. Jaybird is serving Satan/the Antichrist:

haha ok umm serving Satan? i think someone stopped taking their meds.

but seriously, do you have any idea what i was saying. how about this:
someone says they have a new bible for you, and all the teachings of Jesus has changed, they know its correct because the spirit says so.

if someone says this to you are you really going to toss out your bible and go with this person? i hope not. Jesus teaches there will be many false teachers, and i am sure they all claim to be lead by the spirit. so how does one test such things to be true ort false, you test them against scripture, just as the Bereans tested Paul. everything Paul taught synced with scripture, this also tells us Paul was not teaching some new gospel, had he been teaching something new they would have run him out of town which they didnt.

holy kjv? you really think Jesus and the 12 were walking around with KJVs?

 

[Gurucam]

Jaybird is so absolutely deceived and foolish.

Jaybird is so absolutely deceived and foolish.

John: 16 KJV N.T.
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

In the above John clearly report that among the last things that the physical Jesus told the disciple was that there were many thing that they needed to know, however Jesus told them that he could not and did not tell them these things. Jesus told them that 'they could not bear these things at that time. Jesus told them that when he physically left, the Spirit of Truth (who is His Spirit) will be then made available to them to bring 'All Truth'.

Every thing that is recorded in scriptures with respect to information from the disciples came to them only from the physical Jesus before he was crucified. And in no uncertain terms Jesus, before he was crucified, confirmed that there were many things that he could not and did not tell the disciples. Therefore there are gaping holes in any thing that the disciples can say and/or teach.

Therefore for out edification and in no uncertain terms, Jesus told the disciples that everything that the disciples got from Him while he walk as a man on earth, is half-bakes and incomplete.

Therefore if you based all your information on what the disciples say and teaches, in the New Testament, your religion would be the most uninformed, incomplete and half-baked on earth.

Fact is with out Paul there is not truth in the Holy KJV N.T.

Clearly it will take active antichrist/Satanic people to deny the above. It will take false prophets and unawares false spying brethren to deny the above, so as to pedal their corruption, falsely, in the name of Christianity.

However we were warned about these false prophets and unawares spying brethren. This is what they do and this is what they were expect, by Jesus, to do:

And indeed this is exactly what Jaybird is doing. Jaybird is denying the above which is so clearly confirmed by John as coming from Jesus and clearly recorded in the Holy KJV N.T. Jaybird is denying the above so as to undermine and deny Paul who is the saving grace of Christianity.

Clearly Jaybird did not read the plain words in the Holy KJV N.T. as provided by John. Clearly Jaybird got all his information from some false prophet (many be the church of Satan/Peter). The church of Satan/Peter had long banned their followers from reading the Holy KJV N.T. themselves. Obvious this was Satanic. Their intent was to distort these revelations and deliberately deceive their followers.

Sad and unfortunate Jaybird is simply one of their deceived victims who is arguing meaningless and foolish semantics on this forum.

Fact is, Paul is the only one who had communion with the Spirit of Jesus Who is the Spirit of Truth. Therefore Paul is the only one who got All Truth. Without the input of Paul the New testament is nothing. It is the most half-baked and incomplete scriptures on earth.

The most unfortunate thing about Jaybird (who deny John, Jesus and the Holy KJV N.T.) is that he foolishly and erroneously believe that he is among the chosen few who is in the favor of Jesus.

This person openly blaspheme and deny John, Jesus and the Holy KJV N.T. and foolishly believe that he is 'something' in Christianity. According to very clear and plain revelations in the Holy KJV N.T., Jay bird is nothing. with respect to Christianity.

How absolutely foolish.

 

[drbrumley]

Jesus didn't tell me to do that, Jesus only told those at that time to do that, why do you think that was?

WHAT!!!!!!????????

 

[Gurucam]

Indeed there is a natural or physical Israel/Jerusalem. This is the Israel/Jerusalem of the Jews. This is on earth and it cannot be heaven and is no heaven.

There is also a spirit Israel/Jerusalem. This Israel/Jerusalem is in spirit heaven (above). This is the Israel/Jerusalem of Christians. This Israel/Jerusalem is heaven.

When God's kingdom of heaven comes to earth, all of earth will be conformed to God's kingdom of heaven. And from among the Jews (past and present) only the generations of Issac will remain on earth to inherit God's kingdom of heaven on earth. They are those Jews who cease being Jews and became Christians.

Those who remained Jews will be all out-of-here. These are the generations of Ishmael. This is according to the Holy KJV N.T..

You must know that a Jew must cease being a Jew in order to be a child of God and a Christians. A Jews is not a Christian or a child of God:

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

The above say that one becomes a child of God when one becomes a Christian. And then one is no longer a Jew or a Greek. Therefore one who remains a Jew cannot be and is not, a Christian and he/she is not a child of God.

Issac and his generations ceased being Jews and became Christians. They are among the Christians of today and those who have died and went to spirit heaven, in three day, after they died. Those who remained Jews did not and do not, go to spirit heaven. No one made any preparation for them in spirit heaven. Jesus made preparation in spirit heaven, only for those chosen few people who became Christians while the lived on earth.

Issac was called Israel/Jerusalem. This referred only to the Israel/Jerusalem, that in spirit heaven (above). This does not refer to the physical Israel/Jerusalem (that is on earth). This physical/earth Israel/Jerusalem is not for Christians. This Israel/Jerusalem that is connected to Issac, is in spirit heaven above. This Israel/Jerusalem is not for Jews.

Ishmael and his generations remained Jews. They are the Jews of today. They did not become Christians. When Ishmael is linked to Israel/Jerusalem. This Israel/Jerusalem is the physical Israel/Jerusalem that is on earth. This is in no way the Israel/Jerusalem that is in spirit heaven above (that Jesus when ahead to prepare for Christians).

The Jews remained people of the flesh. Those Jews who ceased being Jews and became Christians did so because they ceased being in the flesh and became in spirit.

The Jews foolishly and erroneously believe that they are the generation of Issac. They are not. The generation of Issac are children of God/Christians.

The Jews are the generations of Ishmael. They are children of the flesh. Ishmael and his generation are the Jews who remained Jews. Jesus made no preparation for them in spirit heaven. There is no Israel/Jerusalem for them in spirit heaven. Their Israel/Jerusalem is totally physical and on earth . . . and this is not heaven.

Romans: 9 King James Version (KJV)
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh (i.e. Ishmael and his generations), these are not the children of God (Issac and his generations): but the children of the promise (Issac and his generation) are counted for the seed.

The above clearly say that only Issac and his generations are counted as children of God. Ishmael and his generations are children of the flesh. Issac was born under the new spirit and heaven based covenant. He was born a child of promise/child of spirit. His seed was counted for children of God.

Ishmael was born under the Mosaic/ten commandments covenant. He was born a child of the flesh. His generation continued to be children of the flesh. They did not cease being Jews and become onto Christ. They remained under the (Old) Mosaic/ten commandment covenant. They never embraced the (New) spirit and Spirit based Christian covenant.

The generation of Issac are those Jews who ceased being Jews and became Christian. Their heaven is very real and it is the Israel/Jerusalem, that is in spirit heaven:

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Jesus' Father is in spirit heaven. Jesus went there to prepare a place for those who became Christians. These are the chosen few who actually followed Him. Make no mistake the Jews did not follow Jesus. Jesus and his teaching had absolutely no impact on the Jews who remained Jews. They simply remained (the same) as if Jesus was never here.

Jews have gained nothing form Jesus and they have nothing to gain form Jesus and they are not in any way connected to Jesus and his supposed return and his reign on earth.

All the talk about rebuilding a temple in the physical land of Israel/Jerusalem 'before Jesus returns' is all hype.

Let no Jew fool you.

 

[Tambora]

what nations were Israel commanded to conquer?

7 nations (Acts 13:19)
As promised (Deut 7:1)
Can count on the promises GOD makes to Israel (Jos 24:11)

 

[glorydaz]

WHAT!!!!!!????????

Imagine that!

 

[marhig]

WHAT!!!!!!????????

What do you mean by ...what?!!!!!???????? And what's with all the drama?

It's simple, tambora is talking about obeying Jesus, about how Jesus was telling people not to say that he we the Christ in his lifetime and if we believe in obeying him then isn't that a command we should be following too but we don't because we proclaim he is the Christ. But Jesus wasn't saying it to me, it was for the people of that time for a reason and it was nothing to do with there being 2 gospels either. And I'm asking why she believes he did that, why tell them not to tell others he's the Christ in his lifetime, yet the apostles told people? Why do you think? Why do you believe that Jesus told people not to say he was the Christ, yet the apostles told people?

 

[glorydaz]

What do you mean by ...what?!!!!!???????? And what's with all the drama?

It's simple, tambora is talking about obeying Jesus, about how Jesus was telling people not to say that he we the Christ in his lifetime and if we believe in obeying him then isn't that a command we should be following too but we don't because we proclaim he is the Christ. But Jesus wasn't saying it to me, it was for the people of that time for a reason and it was nothing to do with there being 2 gospels either. And I'm asking why she believes he did that, why tell them not to tell others he's the Christ in his lifetime, yet the apostles told people? Why do you think? Why do you believe that Jesus told people not to say he was the Christ, yet the apostles told people?

Perhaps there was a time for the one, but not yet for the other. Ecc. 3:1

 

[Tambora]

Jesus didn't tell me to do that, Jesus only told those at that time to do that, why do you think that was?

WHAT!!!!!!????????

Marhig is a closet MADist.

We are telling folks Jesus is the Christ of GOD. (Which is opposite of what Jesus told His followers to do at one time.)
We are not healing the sick, raising the dead, and casting out devils. (Which is opposite of what Jesus told His followers to do at one time.)

Things that differ are not the same.

 

[marhig]

Marhig is a closet MADist.

We are telling folks Jesus is the Christ of GOD. (Which is opposite of what Jesus told His followers to do at one time.)
We are not healing the sick, raising the dead, and casting out devils. (Which is opposite of what Jesus told His followers to do at one time.)

Things that differ are not the same.

Why though, why do you think he told them not to tell anyone at that time? I'm just wondering what you believe?

And it's nothing to do with 2 gospels

 

[marhig]

Perhaps there was a time for the one, but not yet for the other. Ecc. 3:1

Yes that exactly right, but why? What do you believe?

 

[glorydaz]

Yes that exactly right, but why? What do you believe?

He was keeping it on the down-low. His time to die had not yet come. It would be at Passover.

 

[marhig]

He was keeping it on the down-low. His time to die had not yet come. It would be at Passover.

He wanted people to believe his word and not to be told that he was the Christ from man thus many would have mocked him and they would have thought he was above himself. So Jesus wanted them to believe in him through his word, and the father would reveal to their hearts that he is the Christ in his time.

When Jesus asked the disciples who people said he was and they told him, he then asked them and said, "who do you say that I am", and Peter said to Jesus that he was the Christ, the son of the living God, Jesus said to Peter, "flesh and blood hath not revealed this to you Peter, but my father which is in heaven." Jesus didn't want them to tell others who he was, people with their own minds thought all different things, but he wanted them to hear that he was the Christ from God, and once they told him this he knew that they had heard it from the father and not from man. And to have that revealed to their hearts they had to believe in him and the gospel. This is our first Revelation, that Jesus is the Christ, the son of the living God and upon this Revelation Christ can build his church. The Christ within revealed by the father, is the rock that the church is built on, and Peter was the first to receive this Revelation. It is the mystery from the beginning of time, that Christ is within those who belong to God.

 

[God's Truth]

Marhig is a closet MADist.

We are telling folks Jesus is the Christ of GOD. (Which is opposite of what Jesus told His followers to do at one time.)
We are not healing the sick, raising the dead, and casting out devils. (Which is opposite of what Jesus told His followers to do at one time.)

Things that differ are not the same.

You mock Jesus.

 

[Gurucam]

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; covenant 1.) the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 covenant 2.) But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

The above tells us that there are two convents which relates to two Jerusalems/Israels.

1. The above tell us that the first covenant relates to the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments covenant and to the land of Jerusalem/Israel. This is Jerusalem/Israel on earth. This is the physical Jerusalem/Israel.

Ishmael was born under the above covenant and he was a child of the flesh. All Jews are under the above covenant and they are all born under this covenant and they are all children of the flesh. These are the generations of Abraham who remained Jews (children of the flesh under the ten commandments) and did not become spirit and Spirit based, Christians/Children of God.

The Jews are the descendants of Ishmael (i.e. children of the flesh) and they are not carded to inherit God's kingdom of heaven (either in the spirit realm or eventually on earth) together with children of God/Christians who are Issac and his generation.

The sad fact is that Ishmael and his generation are children of the flesh. They are not counted for children of God. Ishmael and his generations are the Jews.

When these people die they are buried inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter together with their dead physical bodies. The Jews (and billions of Catholics and traditional Christians), are buried inside the earth in hell with Satan/Peter because Satan/Peter remain a Jews and covertly serve the Jewish agenda.

The grave has total victory over these people. When they die they do not separate form their dead physical bodies, clad only in their spirit bodies. They remain unaware in their dead spirit bodies and also in their dead physical bodies and are buried inside the earth, in their graves with their dead physical bodies. This is how the grave has total victory over these people.

2. The above tell us that the second covenant relates to "Jerusalem/Israel which is above, free and the mother of us all". This one relates to (or is) the N.T./transgress the ten commandments so as to serve one own spirit, in harmony with the Holy Spirit/Christian covenant. Jesus freed Christians (those who follow him) from all obligation under the ten commandments. And Jesus went ahead to spirit heaven to prepare a mansion in God's house (in spirit heaven) for Christians (i.e. who follow Him, in three day after they die).

The mansion in God's house which Jesus went ahead to prepare for Christians/children of God is describes as the Jerusalem/Israel which is "above, free and the mother of us all". This is in spirit heaven. Those who esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, even in the slightest manner, are the dead who bury their dead inside the earth with Satan/Peter. They do not go to this Jerusalem/Israel that is in the spirit realm.

Those who transgress the ten commandments so as to serve their own spirits in harmony with the Holy Spirit are Christians/children of God. When they die, they separate from their dead physical bodies, clad only in their spirit bodies. Only their dead physical bodies get buried inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter. Then they rise, clad only in their spirit bodies, in three day (after death) to be like angels in spirit heaven. They go to the mansion in God's house which Jesus went ahead to prepare for them. The grave has no victory for these people.

Issac was born under the above spirit and Spirit, God's kingdom of heaven, covenant. Issac had the above rights. Issac was a child of promise/child of Spirit/child of God/Christian. Back then Issac birth was totally unusual.

Issac's spirit birth happened even before Jesus came to earth physically. Abraham was into spirit, Spirit and Christianity (unknowingly) even before Jesus came to earth physically. Abraham was an exception. And God recognized him as such. His action with respect to bringing forth Issac was counted as righteousness according to Christianity.

At that point God promised that Abraham and his seed will be given a Spirit of Truth, Who will intercede between each of them and the Holy Spirit. This was the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Jesus which eventually was made available to them after the physical Jesus came and left the earth.

However not all of Abraham generations recognized or accepted this Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth when He became available to them. Fact is Ishmael and his generation remained Jew under the O.T./ten commandments covenant. They benefited nothing from this Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth. They were denied entry to God's kingdom of heaven as provided by the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus. This is the sad and unfortunate fact.

The sad fact is that only Issac and his generation are counted for children of God/Christians. And only they could and did rise, in three day after death, to be like angels in spirit heaven, when they died.

All these other people from the catchment of Abraham are buried inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter, together with their dead physical body. Fact is, Peter remained a Satan and a Jew and served the Jews and the Jewish agenda.

Peter Satan continue to discerned wisdom in the ten commandments and for the past 2000 odd years, Peter/Satan and his popes and their church enforce the ten commandments on their follower, although the ten commandments were found to be onto death (i.e. they killeth). Esteeming the ten commandments defined (and defines) a Jews and therefore made Peter/Satan, his popes and their church Jews (i.e. loyal descendant of Ishmael). They did not follow Jesus.

Peter was and remained Satan and a Jews. He did not drop the ten commandments and embraced the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus which makes one free for the ten commandments:

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

When Satan/Peter died he went to rule in hell inside the earth. He did not rise to heaven, in three day after death as Christians do.

And indeed all who continue to esteem use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, even in the least way, are make and kept the dead who bury each other inside the earth, in hell, with Satan/Peter (when they die). This include the Jews . . . for indeed Satan/Peter, his popes and their church continue to deny Jesus and serve the Jewish agenda covertly.

Satan/Peter, his popes their church and the Jews people deceived billion of aspiring Christians. They covertly and corruptly return billions of aspiring Christs to bondage under the ten commandments.

Jesus deals with them when they die. When they die they inevitably enter the realm where Jesus has His kingdom. This is the spirit realm.

When Jesus was physically on earth the surface of earth was not his kingdom and the Jews had their way with him. They denied, persecuted, tortured and kill the physical Jesus. They were very foolish because they must inevitably pay for their deeds when they die and is in the Spirit realm where Jesus is Lord and where Jesus has his kingdom of glory.

They are all dispatched to hell inside the earth, in hell to join Satan/Peter who went there went he died. They were all fooled into going there under the very 'iffy' promise that their spirit may be saved in some still to come day of the Lord Jesus.

All these people (who in any way esteemed, used, invoked and/or promoted the ten commandments while they live on earth) are still inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter . . . hoping that their spirit may be saved in some still to come day of the Lord Jesus.

While on the other hand those who transgressed the ten commandments so as to serve their own spirits/hearts, in harmony with the Holy Spirit, when another way when they died. When they died they rise to spirit heaven, clad only in their spirit bodies, in three days, to like angels in heaven, with the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus.

All Christians/children of God, who have died, are in spirit heaven, with the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus. None are in hell, inside the earth with Satan/Peter. That hellish place inside the earth with Satan/Peter is occupied only by foolish people who did not follow Jesus but instead esteemed, used, invoked and/or promoted the ten commandments while they lived on earth.

This is truth in the fullness of time. Those who come onto this truth now will have the last chance to be among the chosen few.

. . . will continue

 

[Gurucam]

'Death where is your sting, grave where is your victory'. This is gravely corrupted.

'Death where is your sting, grave where is your victory'. This is gravely corrupted.

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

When the Jews and billion of Catholics and traditional Christians die they are buried inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter together with their dead physical bodies. The Jews (and billions of Catholics and traditional Christians), are buried inside the earth in hell with Satan/Peter because Satan/Peter remained a Jews and covertly serve the Jewish agenda.

Indeed even the Jews, when they die, get buried inside the earth in hell with Satan/Peter. This is because Satan/Peter, his popes and their church people remained Jews and covertly serve the Jewish agenda and not the Christian agenda.

Satan/Peter, his popes their church and the Jews continue to esteem use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments which make one dead to one's own spirit. This is the Jewish agenda. This is to be the dead. They are the dead who bury each other inside the earth with Satan/peter.

The grave has total victory over these people. When they die they do not separate from their dead physical bodies, clad only in their spirit bodies. They remain unaware in their dead spirit bodies within their dead physical bodies and are buried inside the earth, in their graves with their dead physical bodies. This is how the grave has total victory over these people. The totally of them ends inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter. Them or no part of them, rise to go to God's spirit heaven. Death has a serious sting for these people and the grave has total victory over them. They all end in their graves and eventually into hell inside the earth with Satan/Peter.

Death has a very serious sting for the above people. The Jewish agenda is to enforce the ten commandments on everyone and the ten commandment makes and keeps one the dead who bury each other inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter.

The Christian/Jesus agenda is for one to transgress the ten commandments so as to be led, unconditionally, by the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession as discerned within one's own heart/spirit. These are the Christians. When they die they separate from their dead physical bodies, clad only in their spirit bodies. Then they rise in three day, clad only in their spirit bodies, to be like angels in spirit heaven. Death has no sting for these people and the grave has no victory over these people.

Indeed, those who transgress the ten commandments so as to serve their own spirits/hearts in harmony with the Holy Spirit become Christian/children of God. They are the ones who abandon and transgress the ten commandments which makes and keeps one the dead (i.e. dead to their own spirits/hearts). This enabled them to become awakened to/aware of, their own heart/spirits. They are aware of their spirit while they live and when they die they remain aware of their spirits.

When they die, they are aware of their own spirits bodies. And they can and do separate from their dead physical bodies, clad only in their spirit bodies. Then they rise to spirit heaven, in three day, clad only in their spirit bodies. These are the Christians/Saints/children of God.

After they die their dead physical bodies are without them and their spirit bodies. Therefore their dead physical bodies are buried without them or their spirit bodies. In this way the grave has absolutely not victory over Christians/Saints/children of God.

A billion strong Catholics and a billions strong traditional Christians and millions of Jews are not in the above category. They cannot and do not separate from their dead physical bodies when they die. They are buried inside the earth in hell with Satan/Peter, together with their dead physical bodies. Their grave has total victory over them, although they like to parrot, 'death where is thy sting, grave where is your victory'. Fact is, death is a grave sting for them and their grave has serious victory over them. They are simply deceived by false prophets.

Billion of Catholics and billions of Christians are not Christians/Saints/children of God. They do not rise to spirit heaven in three day after death to be like angels in heaven, with Jesus. They have not abandon and transgress the ten commandments so as to serve their own spirits/hearts, in harmony with the Holy Spirit. They are gravely deceived. They all discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments which makes them and keeps them the dead. They die as the dead (i.e. dead to their own spirit bodies). And so they cannot and do not separate out of their dead physical bodies. They simply remain with in their dead spirit bodies within their dead physical bodies and are buried inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter together with their dead physical bodies. The grave has total victory over these people.

Billion of Catholics and traditional Christians parrot 'oh grave where is thy sting, oh grave where is thy victory. This counts for nothing.

Fact is, when they die they all come to know that death has a very real and serious sting for them and the grave has total victory over them . . . simply because they die as spiritually dead people, because they esteemed, used, invoked and/or promoted the ten commandments while they lived on earth.

If you discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, even in the least manner, you are dead to your spirit/heart. You are the dead who bury their dead. You cannot be and are not a Christian/Saint. You are not among those who follow Jesus. By being under the ten commandments, you are made and kept the dead, who bury each other inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter. This is the both, the ordinary and acid test, of your status.

Billions of Catholics and billions of traditional Christians are deceived. They incorrectly perceive that they are Christians. They incorrect perceive that they are the ones who follow Jesus and are the chosen few. They are not. They are the many who are deceived by false prophets. They are 'the dead who bury each other inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter'. They are not the ones who follow Jesus to God's kingdom of heaven, in the spirit realm. However many of them have the 'biggest, loudest, most know-it-all and most arrogant mouth' around.

A billion strong Catholics and a billion strong traditional Christians are simply foolish and deceived people. They cannot be the chosen few. They cannot be the chosen few who know scriptures correctly, do not err and are the chosen few.

However with arrogance they all believe that they know scriptures and are the chosen few. In fact many try to and actually teach scriptures and Christianity. Many who become Christians bishops, priests and pastors etc. have not even graduated with a pass in kindergarten sums.

Millions simply read and misread and misrepresent a couple verses in scriptures and become self appointed preachers and pastors who then go on to misled those who foolishly follow them and pay them.

 

[glorydaz]

He wanted people to believe his word and not to be told that he was the Christ from man thus many would have mocked him and they would have thought he was above himself. So Jesus wanted them to believe in him through his word, and the father would reveal to their hearts that he is the Christ in his time.

Since you think you know everything, why do you insist we answer your questions?


Your answer doesn't even make sense. You claim He didn't want to be mocked?

He knew if word got out that He was claiming to be the Messiah, the Jews would seek to put Him to death even sooner....before all was accomplished.

John 13:1 Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.

Matt. 16:20-21 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ. 21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.​

The Good News had to include His death and Resurrection, and the time had already been set beforehand by the Prophets.

 

[glorydaz]

You mock Jesus.

You don't know Him.

 

[drbrumley]

You mock Jesus.

and I :mock: you for your slander.

 

[marhig]

Since you think you know everything, why do you insist we answer your questions?


Your answer doesn't even make sense. You claim He didn't want to be mocked?

He knew if word got out that He was claiming to be the Messiah, the Jews would seek to put Him to death even sooner....before all was accomplished.

John 13:1 Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.

Matt. 16:20-21 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ. 21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.​

The Good News had to include His death and Resurrection, and the time had already been set beforehand by the Prophets.

You don't have to answer anything, I'm asking you to see what you believe, I'm not making you answer me. You don't have to answer any of my posts if you don't want to.

And Jesus didn't want the disciples to tell others he was the Christ, because he wanted them to believe in him through the word and then God would reveal to them that he's the Christ in his time. If it hadn't been passed on by man that he is the Christ, then Jesus will have known that anyone who knew who he was, would have heard it through revelation from God, as Peter did.

If the disciples had of told everyone that Jesus was the Christ, they wouldn't have believed, and they would have thought that he's above himself. It had to be revealed to their hearts from God.

And the Jews couldn't have done anything to him until it was his time to go through it, they had been trying to kill him for a long time, but they couldn't because it wasn't his time, and it wasn't his time until he had finished the work which the father had given him to do, and that was preach the gospel and bare witness to the truth and to make ready the apostles and disciples to spread the gospel throughout the whole world. With the hope of saving many as would believe in the truth and repent and turn to God.