The Future for Israel - 'Behold the days are coming' YHVH
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Are you saying these people have a new spirit?
Did God not say they must have a new spirit before God would gather His people? --
Deu 30:1 And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath driven thee,
Deu 30:2 And shalt return unto the LORD thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;
Deu 30:3 That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee.
LA
Interplanner
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Right and the Spirit was poured out when Messiah came after the same exile. There are many prophetic passages on those two things happening together.
Shalom.
I do not know what you are talking about. The Spirit was poured out on the Jewish believers after Yeshua rose from the dead, appeared to many, and ascended to heaven to the right hand of God.
Shalom.
Jacob
Here is demonstrated the leaders of the spirit of Israel of the middle east, which the western churches also support--
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Iyj6UPCChA&t=116s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Iyj6UPCChA&t=116s
Such difficulties you folks have. Why don't you just dump the "Old Testament"? Then you wouldn't have to do all these mental gymnastics.
beameup
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What you are seeing is the push-back from the adherents to Replacement Theology.
We who take the Bible seriously and literally, are not the "Replacement" types.
Replacement Theology is the doctrine of Catholics and 80% of the Protestants.
In their minds, you have no right to exist. They are not your "friends".
BTW, the "theme" of a future for Israel is carried over into the New Testament.
You know, Messiah and Peace on Earth, and all that stuff.
beameup
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Then it will happen on that day that the Lord
Will again recover the second time with His hand
The remnant of His people
And He will lift up an ensign [flag] for the nations
And assemble the banished ones of Israel,
And will gather the dispersed of Judah
From the four corners of the earth.
Isaiah 11:11a,12
Will again recover the second time with His hand
The remnant of His people
And He will lift up an ensign [flag] for the nations
And assemble the banished ones of Israel,
And will gather the dispersed of Judah
From the four corners of the earth.
Isaiah 11:11a,12
SaulToPaul 2
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Made up.
Interloper fabricated/obtusified/fracturalized his post.
SaulToPaul 2
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Wonder what causes that?
The OT--
Isa 65:15 And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:
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beameup
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Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers/sisters: a partial hardening (ie: some Jews presently are saved by grace)
has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. (reference to the Rapture & Tribulation)
And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written,
“The Deliverer will come from Zion,
he will banish ungodliness from Jacob”; - Romans 11:25-26
The coming in of Gentiles into Gods nation of Israel.
Certainly not the present Israel of the middle east of Christ deniers who love money and guns, like the USA and its churches.
LA
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Body part
Nonsense.
You and Steko think its nonsense, but Gods word is true.
The fullness of the gentiles in Rom ch 11 refers to the full number of them coming into the Kingdom of God where the First of the church began.
Eph 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Eph 2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
LA
beameup
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What does this refer to Lazy?
At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the Gentile nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.
In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers.
Jeremiah 3:17-18
beloved57
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It refers to Christ and His Church. The physical seed of Abraham Israel are not the Children of God. Rom 9:8
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beloved57
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Don't know what you talking about!So you are saying that every Christian gets title deed to a plot of land in Israel?
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