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I'm sure Dave knows what the government indoctrination camps (high school) teach.
The smart people are never wrong, are they?
The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II
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I'm sure Dave knows what the government indoctrination camps (high school) teach.
The smart people are never wrong, are they?
By the way...
The same effect happens even if the measurements of the sun's angle are taken when the sun is high in the sky, although to a lesser degree. The disparity between the calculated distance between two points based on the angle of the sun above the horizon gets larger and larger as the sun lowers in the sky. This happens precisely because we live on a sphere and for no other reason. It wouldn't happen at all on a flat Earth, no matter how far away the sun was from the surface. In fact, if we were on a flat Earth, we could triangulate the sun's distance from the Earth by using the same observations that I cite in my post. The fact that we cannot do so is yet further proof that the Earth cannot possibly be flat.
The fact that these easily confirmable facts don't move people an inch off the flat earth delusion, is proof that they are not the honest people they pretend to be and that they aught to be ashamed of themsleves and need to repent.
Clete
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Would you care to join the discussion?
We've presented some very sound information proving that the earth is NOT flat (and motionless).
This thread really has nothing to do with religion. It should be moved to "and the rest".
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There is a LOT of religious baggage associated with this.
Just look at Dave trying to force flat earth on the Bible.
Why do you even talk about relativity? You are shown to be wrong in physics and every other physical phenomena, and the moon landing has a great deal more scientific evidence for it than against it.
Ignore that all, you are making a fool of yourself. The kind of fool God spoke about in Proverbs.
Rather, if you believe the bible teaches a flat earth, your answer to any question of any nature, be it scientific, pragmatic, social, historical, theoretical, or even biblical should be met with your answer:
| scripture says the earth does not move and everything else does. Immovable Earth 1 Chronicles 16:30 ".....the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved..." Psalm 96:10 " ...the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved..." Psalm 93:1 " ... the world also is established, that it cannot be moved..." Circle of the Earth Isaiah 40:22 "It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth" Some people say this proves the globe but there is a difference between a circle and a sphere, Isaiah knew the difference between a circle and a sphere because he describes a ball in Isaiah 22:18 "...toss thee like a ball... --From 75 verses prove a flat earth Moving Sun Psalm 19:6…. “…goes forth in a circle from one end of heaven to the other….” Joshua 10:12 "He said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. 13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day." |
Or, just say for short, "Not only does the Bible say the earth is flat and motionless, but nothing else, including what the ancients believed, matters."
It will make sense then when someone suggests a simple test to see if the earth is round or flat, you don't have to ignore it, just say, "it doesn't matter how the test comes out. [Repeat of the above]"
I know you are asking yourself why you should take this good advice from me. Since I already told you I'm sure you'll find it anticlimactic, but I want to see if you get where I'm coming from and tell me what I'm about to say.
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I think we should have another option as well as the Thanks button called the LOL button.
My argument proves that the Earth cannot be flat without reference to anything the government has ever published, stated, claimed or spent one single dime of tax money on. It is based entirely and only on observations that you could make but refuse to do so and on 6th or 7th grade level math.
We KNOW this?
We do not know this! We know that you claim this but since when do your claims equal proof of anything?
What are you talking about, David? We've been back to the moon several times!
Human beings have walked on the Moon from six different missions and there are many more unmanned missions that have successfully landed crafts on the surface. I think it's 21 total moon landings over some 40 years of time, the latest being Communist China landing on the far side in the January of this year (2019).
The test was designed to see if a foot print on the moon, as NASA claims that foot print to be, would look like it does in the video. They, therefore, recreated the conditions that NASA claims exist on the Moon and sure enough the print they produce in the test is 100% consistent with NASA claims.
In other words, the test was performed perfectly and answered the exact question is was intended to answer.
And how do you know this?
This is just frankly stupidity.
Why would wind be the only two force in the entire universe that could possibly created fine dust particles?
More stupidity. The perfect foot print wasn't made while running. That print was made by Buzz Aldrin by simply stepping somewhere and then lifting his foot.
No, it doesn't.
First of all, the print isn't perfect.
More importantly, the test done in the video was done in a vacuum. Any water in the material, if there was any, would have boiled off.
This was the exact claim that making a print in a vacuum was intended to test. The test unequivocally established that prints do not need moisture to be made.
No it doesn't. Wind is only one way fine dust is made.
You can made fine dust right now!
Go get some salt and put a bunch in your hand and then rub you hands together and poof! Fine dust with no wind. Amazing!
Since when does "pure conjecture without proof" bother you? You're entire worldview appears to be based on it!
See what I mean? Pure conjecture without proof!
Clete
P.S. The short conversation on the video at 44:04 is the absolute best part of the entire video!
"I think they're crazy!" :chuckle:
I have continued to look into this topic over the years. Still no evidence to support a flat Earth. God created us in His image which means, in part, we have the God given ability to understand His creation. All the evidence that God has given us points is towards a spherical Earth orbiting a spherical Sun. I have learned many interesting things about our Earth but the most reassuring thing I have learned is that God is good and His creation is truly wondrous! May God bless and keep you all the days of your life!
1Mind1Spirit
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1. Cellular Navigation requires a flat base line to get an elevation angle.
You can't get an elevation angle from a curved base line.
2. Ninety degrees from a plumb bob line is level everywhere on earth.
This cannot happen on a sphere.
Only on a flat earth.
1Mind1Spirit
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There is no evidence of a spinning water ball.
Heliocentrism is a religion.
1Mind1Spirit
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My reality doesn't consist of a place that violates the second law of thermodynamics.
Totally wrong on both counts.
1) Look up the concept of a tangent. On a sphere, there is a horizontal plane that is tangent to the sphere are the pint you are located. This established the horizontal needed for the measurement. Also, look up "dip[ angle" as it pertains to navigation with a sextant.
2)A plumb bob ALWAYS points to the center of the Earth. A horizontal line perpendicular a plumb bob is level everywhere on a sphere. Keep in mind that level is defined as perpendicular to plumb.
There is nothing but evidence for a sphere. Perspective says that as things move away from us, they get smaller. How come the Sin does not follow this rule? It is the same size from sunrise to sunset. Also, how can you see a sun disappear from the bottom up at sunset? Perspective decrees that the sun should shrink to a dot at the horizon.
Maybe that is why they use a single dot, (tip of plumb bob), rather than something else, to base their angle from.
90 degrees from any spot on earth will eventually deliver you to outer space.
It doesn't violate the second law. You do not understand the second law nor do you understand a pressure radiant and a gravity well. Once you understand those two things, then you can understand that Earth's atmosphere follows the second law.
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When the earth blocks the suns rays to the moon (flat earth is already invalidated by that) the suns rays are blocked at a curve (flat earth invalidated again).
If you want to remain stupid, believe in a flat earth.
if you want to live in reality, the earth is a sphere.
If you want to remain stupid, believe in a flat earth.
if you want to live in reality, the earth is a sphere.
1Mind1Spirit
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The dip correction is for the height above sea "level" to the horizon.
You being a cabinet maker should be able to grasp the error in your thinking.
If your earth is a sphere and the plumb bob always points to the center that will produce radials around it.
Radials are slanted not vertical.
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adjective
1: exactly vertical or true
ver·ti·cal
[ˈvərdək(ə)l]
ADJECTIVE
- at right angles to a horizontal plane; in a direction, or having an alignment, such that the top is directly above the bottom:
parallel to or in the plane of the horizon or a base line
“a horizontal surface”
Synonyms:crosswise
in the shape of (a horizontal piece on) a cross
flat
horizontally level
level
being on a precise horizontal plane
So, @CabinetMaker only 6 places standing on a globe with a supposed gravitational pull to the center would give you level 90 degrees off a plumb bob line. The top and bottom directly above and below the center and 4 points 90 degrees from the center out.
Every other place your line will not be plumb.
Taking 90 from a plumb bob line would give you different angles around the globe thus changing what level actually is.
That would make using a tool we call a level foolishness.
If I build a cabinet level in my basement and I ship it 1,000 miles and the level isn't the same it would hang crooked.
So, @CabinetMaker only 6 places standing on a globe with a supposed gravitational pull to the center would give you level 90 degrees off a plumb bob line. The top and bottom directly above and below the center and 4 points 90 degrees from the center out.
Every other place your line will not be plumb.
Taking 90 from a plumb bob line would give you different angles around the globe thus changing what level actually is.
That would make using a tool we call a level foolishness.
If I build a cabinet level in my basement and I ship it 1,000 miles and the level isn't the same it would hang crooked.
1Mind1Spirit
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The 2nd law of thermodynamics shows that in order to have gas pressure there must be containment.
You can't have a pressure gradient without first having containment.
Since 1905 Einstein's theory of relativity did away with gravity as a force.
Since gravity isn't a force why are you talking about a gravity well?
You thinkin' a gravity well is a force?
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