Glad you're back, and no I have not ignored any arguments from either side of this topic.
I want more in depth debate as I have thanked daqq for understanding. I'm still researching the "Mapping" arguments.
Please explain. What research are you doing, specifically?
I'm not going to answer posts that make too many points all at one time. The "flatards" videos are an example of this.
Each video has a theme. The first was basically about the map issue, another has to do with the night sky, etc. Have you watched any of the others?
There is no need to respond to every point he makes individually. Besides, as I've said before, the only correct response to any of those videos would be, "Oh! Okay then, the Earth isn't flat after all."
The man does more than make great arguments, he proves flat earthers are wrong. You're playing a very dangerous game associating this flat-earth stupidity with Christianity.
And this time I'm making more written arguments rather than just showing videos.
My advise to you is to avoid forcing those of us who are still somewhat willing to engage the issue from having to spend very much more time than we already do.
I'll attempt to respond to the arguments you make but I'm not going to read every post. If there is something you want me to see, you need to mention me specifically or else there's a good chance I'll miss it.
But I like viewing videos that educate me from both sides. I don't think you even look at the flat earth side and prefer to use ridicule and ad hominems instead. But please prove me wrong.
Don't get judgmental on me here, David. You need to count yourself lucky I'm willing to discuss this with you at all. I spent six whole months debatingthis with you, without ridicule or name calling, to exactly no avail whatsoever. It was like pulling teeth to get you to respond in even the simplest of ways to a single argument I had made.
Additionally, I don't give away respect for nothing. Flat earthism is flat out stupidity. You'll see that eventually or prove yourself to be stupid. Spades are spades, David.
I fear you just want to "state" the status quo, like; there's a globe in every class room, NASA would never deceive anyone, the spinning globe is already proven beyond any doubt, case closed.
I'm not the least bit interested in what you "feel". When have I ever made such an argument? If I have at all its been in frustration at the fact that you won't respond to any of the dozens of substantive arguments that I've spent hours and hours typing up. Maybe you ought to go back and reread the first few hundred posts of the original thread before continuing here.
Too many times you responded to arguments for flat earth as just lies rather than explain why you think they are wrong.
Bull! Go back and reread your original thread< David. That thread would have died a year ago if not for the arguments that I made.
Please set aside your emotions. This is a good debate because it gives a lot of us who don't have a background in cosmology to learn about it from both sides of what is an important subject, in my opinion, with theological and eschatological implications.
A good debate has far less to do with the topic than it has to do with whether the people participating substantively respond to the argument made by the opposing side, which I have done until I am literally blue in the face and now you're telling me you're not even going to bother responding to the videos I've posted after having posting 10,000 hours of your own which I personally have spent God only knows how many hours responding to directly - point by point.
Respect other people's opinion even if you disagree and at least acknowledge that people want to know about this and many of them don't trust NASA and fear a deep state that wants to control them with false information about God, science, and maybe even cosmology.
--Dave
Nope! You blew off all the respect I had for you in regards to this topic on the other thread when you ignored, and I mean ignored, argument after argument after argument after argument. If you want it back, you'll have to earn it. You can start by responding in some sort of substantive manner to those videos which flat out prove your position to be false, not to mention down right silly and deserving of every ounce of ridicule he dishes out against it.
Clete