"The Divinity of Christ"

[7djengo7]

I've numerous times asked you: By your word, "God," are you referring to the Father? Yes or No?

Obviously nothing is wrong, or tricky, or illegitimate about this question. Either, by your word, "God," YES, you are referring to the Father, or NO, you are not referring to the Father. You do not escape from that fact. Yet, so far, you've not answered this question. Understandably, you refuse to answer this question, because your calculation warns you that, whether you were to answer it in the affirmative, or, instead, were to answer it in the negative, you'd necessarily, thereby, further embarrass your anti-Trinitarianism. I got news for you, though: your failure to answer it at all—your resort to stonewalling against it—embarrasses your anti-Trinitarianism just the same. You're trapped by a trilemma. So, what you're trying (in futility) to do, now, is to shift attention away from your failure to answer the question, by saying silly stuff like what you wrote, here:

What you are doing is equivalent to person A asking person B: "Why did you murder the old lady?"

You don't really think that, do you? I mean, imagine just how mentally degenerate one must needs be in order for him/her to be able to, in all seriousness and sincerity, say that saying "Why did you murder the old lady?" is equivalent to asking "By your word, 'God,' are you referring to the Father? Yes or No?"

I don't merely say so - its a fact that I have elucidated in some detail already.

But, on the contrary, you do merely say it's a fact. Saying it's a fact doesn't make it a fact. Nor does saying it's a fact make anyone believe it's a fact. Nor does saying it's a fact make anyone obliged to believe it's a fact.

 

[7djengo7]

Use your own words to define what you mean by God being three persons

By your word, "God," here, are you referring to the Father? Yes or No?

1. There is no "God the Son" or "God the Holy Spirit" in scripture

Thanks, Captain Obvious, for pointing out for us the fact that the phrases, "God the Son" and "God the Holy Spirit," are not found in the Bible, just as we do not find the phrase, "Solomon's grandfather," used in the Bible in reference to Jesse, Solomon's grandfather. What "point" were you trying to make, then?

2. If God the Father did not die, then God did not die - and thus your whole argument about how God had to die falls on its face.

When you say, "then God did not die," and "your whole argument about how God had to die," by your word, "God," are you referring to the Father? Yes or No?

If you're referring to the Father, then this is what you've just told us: "If God the Father did not die, then [the Father] did not die". But every Trinitarian believes that the Father did not die.

If you're referring to the Father, then this is what you've just told us: "your whole argument about how [the Father] had to die". But no Trinitarian argues that the Father had to die.

 

[7djengo7]

There's a big problem here for the Trinitarian: While in one breath it speaks of him as "O God" in the next it speaks of "your God." ie, the Son has a God - and it is this God who has raised him up "above your companions." Obviously the Son is not God Almighty if he has a God who is raising him up and empowering him.

There's a big problem here for the heretic, the anti-Trinitarian: You use this extra-Biblical phrase, "has a God," but you have not told us what (if anything) you mean by it. Though you say "the Son has a God," you have not told us what it would be for the Son to "have a God". We, of course, nowhere in the Bible read your words, "the Son has a God," and so, since the Bible does not say the words, "the Son has a God," the Bible does not mean anything by the words, "the Son has a God." The Bible obviously does not mean something by words it does not say, so it would be silly for us to say, "What does the Bible mean by 'the Son has a God'?" So, it is up to you, the anti-Trinitarian, to tell us exactly what (if anything) you mean by your extra-Biblical phrase, "has a God".

Interesting to note, too, that the heretic, the anti-Trinitarian likes to find a Scripture text in which Jesus refers to or addresses the Father by the phrase, "my God," and then say to us, "See, there you go: the Son has a God!" whereas I do not recall ever having seen him say "the Son has a Lord". Maybe he has said that, and I just missed it? But, though we find Jesus referring to the Father by the phrase, "my God," does Jesus ever refer to the Father by the phrase, "my Lord"? If you think He does, then by all means quote and cite for us the Bible verse(s) in which you think He does.


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