The Day of Atonement

[daqq]

Atonement , Passover, Feast of Dedication , Pentecost, Trumpets

and Tabernacles will all be kept during the Millenium.

Why do you need to wait for everyone else before you can honor the Feasts of the Father? The one whose heart is truly circumcised may indeed partake in the Passover, (Exodus 12:43-48).

1 Corinthians 5:7-8
7. Purge out the old chametz-leaven so that you may be a fresh-renewed lump, (having no indication of leavening or fermentation) as you are indeed like matzot-unleavened bread; and because our Pesach, Messiah, has been sacrificed for us.
8. Let us therefore keep the feast, not with old (old man nature) chametz-leaven, nor with the chametz-leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the matzot-unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

The feasts continue on with or without you until you enter that Rest.

 

[RBBI]

Amen, yes they do....Peace

 

[WeberHome]

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†. Lev 16:20-22 . . When Aaron has finished making atonement for the Most
Holy Place, the Tent of Meeting and the altar, he shall bring forward the live
goat.

. . . He is to lay both hands on the head of the live goat and confess over it
all the wickedness and rebellion of the Israelites--all their sins--and put
them on the goat's head.

. . . He shall send the goat away into the desert in the care of a man
appointed for the task. The goat will carry on itself all their sins to a solitary
place; and the man shall release it in the wilderness.

The live goat is commonly labeled a scapegoat; which Webster's defines as a
person who is unfairly blamed for something that others have done.

But I tend to think that the live goat would be better labeled an escapee
goat because by all rights it should be put to death for all the sins it bears.
In other words: the live goat is a fugitive; viz: a virtual goat on the lamb, so
to speak; which Yhvh disdains as nothing less than an outlaw.

This suggests to me that the people's sins are still out there somewhere;
hanging over their heads like a sword of Damocles.

Yom Kippur is not a happy day. The people are commanded to produce
intense feelings of guilt; and that's because their sins are still on the books;
waiting for the day when God brings them to justice. In other words: Yom
Kippur doesn't gain the people an acquittal, it only gains them a reprieve.

†. Ex 34:6-7 . . Yhvh passed by before him, and proclaimed: Yhvh, Yhvh
God . . . that will by no means clear the guilty.

†. Nah 1:3 . . Yhvh will by no means leave the guilty unpunished.

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[jamie]

The live goat is commonly labeled a scapegoat; which Webster's defines as a person who is unfairly blamed for something that others have done. But I tend to think that the live goat would be better labeled an escapee goat because by all rights it should be put to death for all the sins it bears.

Since there are no immortal goats that means the goat died, but was not killed by man.

Jesus died, but not by man. He gave his life for his Father's firstborn.

 

[WeberHome]

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The blood of a Yom Kippur escapee goat is never used for atonement
purposes. That right there tells us that the escapee goat is not a type of
Christ.

FYI: The Hebrew word for the goat is `aza'zel (az-aw-zale') which is a
compound word.

The first is `ez (aze) which means a she-goat

The second word is 'azal (aw-zal') which means to go away

So `aza'zel isn't a moniker as some have supposed. It's simply has to do
with getting rid of a female goat by taking it far away out of sight and leaving
it there.

Some people, unfamiliar with goats, think that leaving one out in a
wilderness place is a death sentence. No; far from it. Goats are survivors.
They can get by in environments that quite a few other species would find
quite disagreeable. Feral goats actually do pretty well in the wild.

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[OCTOBER23]

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Lightbulb The Day of Atonement aka Yom Kippur - January 22nd, 2016, 06:36 AM
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ATONEMENT DAY IS ON THE 10TH BUT

YOU MUST START FASTING ON THE EVENING OF THE 9TH

SO THAT YOUR STOMACH IS EMPTY ON THE MORNING OF THE 10TH

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-WHEN THE DAY STARTS.

Thus that Holy day starts in the morning just like the Weekly Sabbath does.
The weekly Sabbath never starts in the morning. It usually starts in the evening of the day before, aka Friday at sunset.
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NO, THAT IS WHEN THE JEWS CHOOSE TO START THEIR DAY , NOT GOD'S DAY.

 

[daqq]

ATONEMENT DAY IS ON THE 10TH BUT

YOU MUST START FASTING ON THE EVENING OF THE 9TH

SO THAT YOUR STOMACH IS EMPTY ON THE MORNING OF THE 10TH

WHEN THE DAY STARTS.

Thus that Holy day starts in the morning just like the Weekly Sabbath does.:thumb:

The weekly Sabbath never starts in the morning. It usually starts in the evening of the day before, aka Friday at sunset.

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Lightbulb The Day of Atonement aka Yom Kippur - January 22nd, 2016, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by OCTOBER23 View Post
ATONEMENT DAY IS ON THE 10TH BUT

YOU MUST START FASTING ON THE EVENING OF THE 9TH

SO THAT YOUR STOMACH IS EMPTY ON THE MORNING OF THE 10TH

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-WHEN THE DAY STARTS.

Thus that Holy day starts in the morning just like the Weekly Sabbath does.
The weekly Sabbath never starts in the morning. It usually starts in the evening of the day before, aka Friday at sunset.
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NO, THAT IS WHEN THE JEWS CHOOSE TO START THEIR DAY , NOT GOD'S DAY.

Leviticus 23:32
32. It shall be unto you a Shabbat Shabbaton, [Shabbat Shabbaton is a weekly Shabbat - Exodus 16:23] and you shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at evening, from evening unto evening, you shall shabat your Shabbat.

Evening time begins at the time when the women go forth to draw water, which is roundabout the midst of the daylight hours, which means that evening time consists of five hours, (epiphoskos-first light of Shabbat in this case) while the next morning is Shabbat full light and consists of the first seven hours of the day. The day is therefore divided at midday and the end of the seventh hour is the final mini-Shabbat hour of the day, then the eighth hour of the day commences the new day, which is evening time, "at the going down of the sun" from its zenith or high point in the sky above, when the women go forth to draw water:

Genesis 24:11
11. And he made his camels to kneel down without the city by a well of water, at the time of the evening, the time that women go out to draw water.

 

[OCTOBER23]

DAGGUMIT

I will counter that with John 11:9 from Jesus own words...........

Joh 11:9 Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day?

If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.

There are 12 hours in a day , from the First Watch at 6 am to 6 pm
There are 12 hours in a night , from 6 pm to 6 am.
The day starts at Dawn (sunrise) and ends at Sunset.
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2Pe 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well

that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place,

until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
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ON THE SIXTH DAY GOD MADE MAN AND THE EVENING CAME AND MORNING CAME = DAY SIX

DAY SIX STARTS AT MORNING -> GOD MAKES MAN -> DAY ENDS NEXT MORNING

= 24 HR DAY.

GOD ONLY WORKS DURING DAYLIGHT HOURS.
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Ge 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him;

31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.

And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Ge 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made;

and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
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[daqq]

DAGGUMIT

I will counter that with John 11:9 from Jesus own words...........

Joh 11:9 Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day?

If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.

There are 12 hours in a day , from the First Watch at 6 am to 6 pm
There are 12 hours in a night , from 6 pm to 6 am.
The day starts at Dawn (sunrise) and ends at Sunset.
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2Pe 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well

that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place,

until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
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ON THE SIXTH DAY GOD MADE MAN AND THE EVENING CAME AND MORNING CAME = DAY SIX

DAY SIX STARTS AT MORNING -> GOD MAKES MAN -> DAY ENDS NEXT MORNING

= 24 HR DAY.

GOD ONLY WORKS DURING DAYLIGHT HOURS.
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Ge 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him;

31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.

And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Ge 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made;

and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
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The calendar days are not twenty four hours each but rather eighteen because it is a solar calendar based on the sundial of Ahaz and the equinox, (eighteen hours of eighty minutes are the same amount of time as twenty-four hours of sixty minutes, which are the one thousand four hundred and forty minutes in a day). The days are twelve hours because of Numbers chapter seven where each prince of each tribe offers the korban offering for his tribe in each his own yom-hour of the yom-day. The only day of the year which actually had twelve hours of daylight would have been the summer solstice wherein the day was twelve hours and the night was half of that, that is, six hours. The first light of Shabbat is the evening time which consists of five hours and includes sunset. The full light of Shabbat is the next morning from the first hour through the seventh hour. The seventh hour of every day is thus a Shabbat. These five hours of evening and seven hours of the next morning are indeed the twelve hours of a day. The opening chapter of Genesis gives you this information with the very first day, saying, And there is evening, and there is morning, Yom Echad. Thus the first day is the evening (five hours) and the next morning, (seven hours) which are twelve hours. The day thus begins with LIGHT and ends with LIGHT at the end of the seventh hour Shabbat. There is no night in the New Genesis Creation of Messiah which was acted out at Golgotha.

 

[jamie]

It's simply has to do with getting rid of a female goat by taking it far away out of sight and leaving it there.

He shall take from the congregation of the sons of Israel two male goats for a sin offering and one ram for a burnt offering. (Leviticus 16:5 NASB)​

 

[WeberHome]

He shall take from the congregation of the sons of Israel two male goats for
a sin offering and one ram for a burnt offering. (Leviticus 16:5 NASB)

The Hebrew word translated "male" in the NASB's version of Lev 16:5 is
either sa`iyr (saw-eer') or sa`ir (saw-eer') which primarily means shaggy. It
can also refer to a he-goat, and by analogy, a faun; viz; a kid.

In other words: sa`iyr is ambiguous, and the choice to translate it "male" is
entirely arbitrary.

Abraham offered a female. (Gen 15:9)

The atonement for unintentional sins is a female. (Num 15:27)

FYI: The Hebrew word for the females of Gen 15:9 and Num 15:27 is `ez
(aze). See post #25 for the use of `ez in the compound word `aza'zel.


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[OCTOBER23]

daqq said,

The first light of Shabbat is the evening time which consists of five hours and includes sunset. The full light of Shabbat is the next morning from the first hour through the seventh hour.
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More man made BALONEY.........

Where did you get that from - one of the 613 words of wisdom ???

The First Watch starts at 6 am .

Evening starts circa 6 pm.

Take a look at the Timing of the Crucifixion.

Take a look at these Words from the Bible........


Mt 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week,

 

[daqq]

daqq said,

The first light of Shabbat is the evening time which consists of five hours and includes sunset. The full light of Shabbat is the next morning from the first hour through the seventh hour.
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More man made BALONEY.........

Where did you get that from - one of the 613 words of wisdom ???

The First Watch starts at 6 am .

Evening starts circa 6 pm.

Take a look at the Timing of the Crucifixion.

Take a look at these Words from the Bible........


Mt 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week,

I believe what I found in the scripture and what I quoted from therein. Where did you find whatever it is you believe? You are the one saying that the day starts in the morning. I suspect what you have eaten you found out in the wilderness of your desert wanderings and it had two horns like a lamb but spoke as a dragon. :crackup:

Evening time begins at the time when the women go forth to draw water, which is roundabout the midst of the daylight hours, which means that evening time consists of five hours, (epiphoskos-first light of Shabbat in this case) while the next morning is Shabbat full light and consists of the first seven hours of the day. The day is therefore divided at midday and the end of the seventh hour is the final mini-Shabbat hour of the day, then the eighth hour of the day commences the new day, which is evening time, "at the going down of the sun" from its zenith or high point in the sky above, when the women go forth to draw water:

Genesis 24:11
11. And he made his camels to kneel down without the city by a well of water, at the time of the evening, the time that women go out to draw water.

See also John 4:6-7 which has already been explained in depth elsewhere.

 

[Zeke]

Sure a lot of stuff being loaded on these camels, better have a label/knats yard sale before ya reach the gate.

 

[Ben Masada]

Leviticus 23:32
32. It shall be unto you a Shabbat Shabbaton, [Shabbat Shabbaton is a weekly Shabbat - Exodus 16:23] and you shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at evening, from evening unto evening, you shall shabat your Shabbat.

Daqq, A Shabbat aka Shabbaton happens when a major festival falls on the weekly Sabbath.