The coronavirus scam

[expos4ever]

Unvaccinated people are still getting the virus and a small percentage of them are dying. Vaccinated people are also getting the virus and a small percentage of them are dying.

Profoundly misleading, of course.

From the British Medical Journal:

Unvaccinated Americans have died at 11 times the rate of those fully vaccinated since the delta variant became the dominant strain, indicate surveillance data gathered over the summer by the US Centers for Disease Control.

 

[expos4ever]

Facts don't support the erroneous opinion that increasing vaccinations will flatten the covid curve.

Even if this is true, it is not the point. What matters is the risk of serious illness and death. And here the evidence is clear: the vaccines work.

 

[expos4ever]

The chances of dying from the covid shot are greater than the chances of winning the lottery.

Deeply misleading, again. Of course what you say is true. But, as usual, you remain curiously tight-lipped about the risk of death from Covid.

Let us be clear: one of the many deceptive strategies employed by the anti-vaxxers is to focus on one side of what is two-sided issue. Yes, there is a remote chance of death from the vaccine. But the risk of death from getting Covid is greater (in the unvaccinated).

 

[expos4ever]

the first things on the page are lies , wuflu vax is neither safe nor effective

Lie.

Unvaccinated Americans have died at 11 times the rate of those fully vaccinated since the delta variant became the dominant strain, indicate surveillance data gathered over the summer by the US Centers for Disease Control.

 

[User Name]

The chances of dying from the covid shot are greater than the chances of winning the lottery.

The chances of dying from the covid are fantastically greater than the chances of dying from the covid vaccination.

 

[way 2 go]

Lie.

Unvaccinated Americans have died at 11 times the rate of those fully vaccinated since the delta variant became the dominant strain, indicate surveillance data gathered over the summer by the US Centers for Disease Control.

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.2 excess deaths to every 1 life saved


.gaming the system
adverse reactions on the vax side removed at 5 x that of placebo

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411 people per million doses die

 

[User Name]

411 people per million doses die

Here is the truth:

If your claim that "411 people per million doses die" were true, then 386 million doses administered would equal 158,646 deaths, but there are only 7,899 reports of death among Americans who received a COVID-19 vaccine, so you can't even perform basic math. Furthermore, autopsies, etc, have shown that those deaths were due to other causes.

"More than 386 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through September 20, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 7,899 reports of death (0.0020%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths pdf icon[1.4 MB, 40 pages]." -- https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

Also, 2,049.52 Americans per million have died of covid: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

 

[User Name]

The Spanish flu was much worse by this point in its run, and they didn't have as many treatment options as we do today and it was killing bread-winners, mothers, and children. In other words, the chance for it to be another Spanish flu has already passed.

You were saying?

COVID-19 has now killed as many people in the U.S. as the 1918 Spanish flu

As of Tuesday (Sept. 21), more than 676,200 people have died in the U.S. from COVID-19.

www.livescience.com

 

[Yorzhik]

You were saying?

COVID-19 has now killed as many people in the U.S. as the 1918 Spanish flu

As of Tuesday (Sept. 21), more than 676,200 people have died in the U.S. from COVID-19.

www.livescience.com

UN thinks misleading headlines tell the whole story!

 

[expos4ever]

How many times do we need to point out that the VAERS database does not establish a cause-and-effect relationship between the vaccine and adverse events?

Which is it?

Are you incapable of understanding this simple fact?
Are you unwilling to accept this simple fact.?

 

[User Name]

UN thinks misleading headlines tell the whole story!

A year ago, your claim was that "if we let it run its coarse it will only be remembered as another pandemic like SARS, MERS, Asian flu, Hong Kong flu, and Swine flu." My claim was that covid would be remembered as another Spanish flu. Clearly, you were very wrong.

 

[way 2 go]

Here is the truth:

If your claim that "411 people per million doses die" were true, then with 386 million doses administered that would equal 158,646 deaths, but there are only 7,899 reports of death among Americans who received a COVID-19 vaccine, and autopsys, etc, have shown that those deaths were due to other causes.

"More than 386 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through September 20, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 7,899 reports of death (0.0020%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.

http://www.skirsch.com/covid/Deaths.pdf

FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths pdf icon[1.4 MB, 40 pages]." -- https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

Furthermore, 2,049.52 Americans per million have died of covid: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

PART 1: Federal Govt HHS Whistleblower Goes Public With Secret Recordings "Vaccine is Full of Sh*t"

BREAKING: Biden Administration Health and Human Services Doctor Says ‘Government Doesn’t Want to Show that the Darn [COVID] Vaccine is Full of Sh*t’; Claims Government Wants to ‘Shove’ COVID Vaccine A

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[User Name]

http://www.skirsch.com/covid/Deaths.pdf

PART 1: Federal Govt HHS Whistleblower Goes Public With Secret Recordings "Vaccine is Full of Sh*t"

BREAKING: Biden Administration Health and Human Services Doctor Says ‘Government Doesn’t Want to Show that the Darn [COVID] Vaccine is Full of Sh*t’; Claims Government Wants to ‘Shove’ COVID Vaccine A

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At least 125,000 fully vaccinated Americans have tested positive for Covid and 1,400 of those have died, according to data collected by NBC News.

The 125,682 "breakthrough" cases in 38 states found by NBC News represent less than .08 percent of the 164.2 million-plus people who have been fully vaccinated since January, or about one in every 1,300. The number of cases and deaths among the vaccinated is very small compared to the number among the unvaccinated.

Breakthrough Covid cases: Data shows how many vaccinated Americans have tested positive

The 125,682 "breakthrough" cases in 38 states represent less than .08 percent of the 164.2 million-plus people fully vaccinated since January.

www.nbcnews.com

And this is from Aug. 2, so numbers have changed somewhat:

About 99.999% of fully vaccinated Americans have not had a deadly Covid-19 breakthrough case, CDC data shows | CNN

More than 99.99% of people fully vaccinated against Covid-19 have not had a breakthrough case resulting in hospitalization or death, according to the latest data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

edition.cnn.com

 

[Yorzhik]

A year ago, your claim was that "if we let it run its coarse it will only be remembered as another pandemic like SARS, MERS, Asian flu, Hong Kong flu, and Swine flu." My claim was that covid would be remembered as another Spanish flu. Clearly, you were very wrong.

Only if you believe a misleading headline!

Hey, what if username reads misleading headlines like he listens to Fauci, he could really spread some FUD...

Oh, nevermind.

 

[User Name]

Again, so what? The problem with this statement is that, while it is true, it's omitting the fact that the number of people who get it and die from it is so small it's for all intents and purposes statistically insignificant!

You're literally making a mountain out of an anthill!

Surviving COVID-19 is only part of the battle for a plurality of patients. Add to the list everything from loss of taste and smell to circulatory problems, kidney damage, brain function issues:

"The effects of COVID-19 can linger far beyond acute infection, even in individuals who experienced mild illness...Our study is unique in characterizing a group consisting of mostly outpatients: 90% of our cohort experienced only a mild COVID-19 illness, yet one-third continue to have lingering effects," said co-author Denise McCulloch, MD, MPH, of University of Washington. - https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/91270

COVID-19: Long-term effects

Learn about the possible long-term effects of COVID-19.

www.mayoclinic.org

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/covid-long-haulers-long-term-effect

 

[User Name]

Only if you believe a misleading headline!

Hey, what if username reads misleading headlines like he listens to Fauci, he could really spread some FUD...

Oh, nevermind.

"For anyone who doesn't understand the magnitude of what we're living through, this pandemic is comparable in its effect on mortality to what everyone agrees is the previous worst pandemic," said Jeremy Faust, an emergency physician at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston who led the team that conducted the data review.

Covid-19 death toll rivals fatality rate during 1918 flu epidemic, researchers say

The increase in deaths in New York City during the early months of the covid-19 pandemic...

www.chron.com

 

[User Name]

Effective treatment with invermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and/or quinine (or other ionopher) with zinc and vitamin C and vitamin D. At risk people can get the vaccine at their request, but that might only be 20% at best of the population. Let the disease run its course like any other flu. You get better than Sweden's result which is not much more than a bad flu season. And subsequent covid infections will be much weaker, much like a regular flu season.

Edit to add: this comes from solid medical advice with a long proven track record.

Does it?

Here's the latest science on ivermectin:

And here is the latest science on hydroxychloroquine:

 

[marke]

Profoundly misleading, of course.

From the British Medical Journal:

Unvaccinated Americans have died at 11 times the rate of those fully vaccinated since the delta variant became the dominant strain, indicate surveillance data gathered over the summer by the US Centers for Disease Control.

You do understand that your response to my post does not in any way contradict my post.

 

[marke]

Even if this is true, it is not the point. What matters is the risk of serious illness and death. And here the evidence is clear: the vaccines work.

If vaccines worked Joe Biden would not be trying to force all Americans to get the vaccine in order to protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated.

 

[marke]

Deeply misleading, again. Of course what you say is true. But, as usual, you remain curiously tight-lipped about the risk of death from Covid.

Let us be clear: one of the many deceptive strategies employed by the anti-vaxxers is to focus on one side of what is two-sided issue. Yes, there is a remote chance of death from the vaccine. But the risk of death from getting Covid is greater (in the unvaccinated).

If you engage in perverted sex you might get AIDS. If you drink too much you could cause damage or death to yourself or others. If you don't get vaccinated you might get sick from covid. Given these facts do you think Biden and the democrats should get involved and dictate certain medical and lifestyle choices for all Americans for the health and safety of everyone concerned?