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Robert Pate

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We agree that, Christ's atonement, is limited to those who believe.

Where we differ is how those who believe are brought to faith.

I used to believe as you do, that it is a matter of one's choice.

I no longer believe that it is man's doing/willing/choosing, but solely God's.

Then your God is unjust, unmerciful, unrighteous and is a tyrant.
 

jamie

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I will get a new flesh body that does not decay.

"So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body and there is a spiritual body." (1 Corinthians 15:42-44)
 

God's Truth

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"So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body and there is a spiritual body." (1 Corinthians 15:42-44)

I was telling you about that scripture. Why are you quoting the scripture I was speaking of?
 

jamie

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Job says that he will see God in his flesh body.

Job 19:26 And after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I will see God;

A better translation: "so that after my skin has been thus destroyed, then even without my flesh, I will see God." (Job 19:26 CJB)
 

God's Truth

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A better translation: "so that after my skin has been thus destroyed, then even without my flesh, I will see God." (Job 19:26 CJB)

Without our flesh we will see God doesn't make sense. The scripture is about the time of the resurrection.

Why would Job say without his flesh?

We will be given Spiritual bodies that do not decay.
 

jamie

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Flesh bodies are composed of matter, spirit bodies are immaterial, not made of matter.

The primary dimension is the spirit dimension, the physical dimension is temporary.
 

God's Truth

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Flesh bodies are composed of matter, spirit bodies are immaterial, not made of matter.

The primary dimension is the spirit dimension, the physical dimension is temporary.

Our spirits are invisible, yet still have a form.

Our resurrected bodies will be physical.

The difference in our new bodies will be that they cannot decay.
 

Robert Pate

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Our spirits are invisible, yet still have a form.

Our resurrected bodies will be physical.

The difference in our new bodies will be that they cannot decay.

The resurrected body will be the same as Jesus's resurrected body. Jesus went through walls and ate fish. Some did not recognize him. He still had his wounds in his hands and feet.
 

God's Truth

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The resurrected body will be the same as Jesus's resurrected body.

When Jesus comes, then we will see him how he is and exactly how we will be.

Jesus went through walls and ate fish.

Jesus did supernatural things with his body even before he died and rose again.

Jesus even caused men and a boat to do something supernatural:

Then they were willing to take him into the boat, and immediately the boat reached the shore where they were heading. John 6:21

Philip too shows us that the supernatural spiritual can also happen to those with a human body as when he all of a sudden went from one place to another.

Acts 8:39When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord carried Philip away, and the eunuch saw him no more, but went on his way rejoicing.

I have shown you do not know what you are talking about.

Some did not recognize him. He still had his wounds in his hands and feet.

They might not have recognized him because he had his bread pulled out of his face.

Isaiah 50:6 I offered my back to those who beat me, my cheeks to those who pulled out my beard; I did not hide my face from mocking and spitting.
 

Robert Pate

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Such a thing to say.

No Christian thinks thus of God.

A believer stands in awe of the sovereignty of God.


Psalm 139:17-18

God's sovereignty is only within his holy, just, merciful, righteous nature.

God cannot and will not sin against himself or his created beings.

Predestination makes God unjust, unmerciful and unrighteous.
 

Eagles Wings

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God's sovereignty is only within his holy, just, merciful, righteous nature.

God cannot and will not sin against himself or his created beings.

Predestination makes God unjust, unmerciful and unrighteous.
Are you Trinitarian?

Would you place your vote in the Trinity poll?
 
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