"The Big Switch", believers-"The Big Switch."
Believers cannot be put on trial again, as we died in Him, and that would be "double jeopardy", and make the LORD God unrighteous, and we have been sealed by the Holy Spirit, and no one has the power to break that seal, despite "the Cains" of the world protests to the contrary, and circumcision is irreversible, and adoption is irreversible.
Believers, adopted sons, now have the righteousness of God in Christ based upon the work of the Saviour alone.
When the Lord Jesus Christ died, we were reckoned to have died in Him-executed, dead, justice served. DEAD.
When the Lord Jesus Christ was buried, we, who we were "in Adam", our "old man", was reckoned to be buried.
When the Lord Jesus Christ rose, we are reckoned to have rose with Him in the newness of life.
When the Lord Jesus Christ ascended, we are reckoned to have ascended with Him, seated in heavenly places.
Believe this good news.
The Cains of the world do not know what happened at Calvary, and why. And hence, due to pride, they are still pulling up their fig aprons.
They cannot choose to be unsaved, despite their unbelief/faltering faith, since justification(and sanctification, and future glorification) is dependent on the LORD God's faithfulness, not theirs. They have no power to break the Father's seal of the Spirit, which God promises to keep sealed unto the day of redemption, nor do they have the power to reverse their adoption, nor do do they have the power to be "re tried"(as in court trial), since they are dead, nor can they be "uncircumcized", nor can they chose to be "pucked"/removed from the body of Christ, as they were identified permanently as a member of this body(try plucking your eye out).
"It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself." 2 timothy 2:11-13 KJV
Read it, memorize it Cains:
"If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself..."
As I wrote, and others before me, when we believe the gospel of Christ, we become identified(basic meaning of the word baptize) with the Lord Jesus Christ's death-we died with Him-His death was credited as ours. Since we are identified with Christ's death, we cannot become "unidentified", as we are now sealed in our identification by the Holy Spirit(Eph. 1:3 KJV). Per 2 Tim. 2:12 KJV, if we suffer with Him, we will reign with Him. However, if we deny Him, He will deny us reigning with Him(Romans 8:17-18 KJV). However, 2 Timothy 2:13 KJV says "if we believe not", and Paul is including himself in this hypothetical situation. Paul is saved, and yet he says "If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful." If Paul, for some/any reason, had stopped believing, , he would still be saved, because of the LORD God's faithfulness(despite our faulty comprehension of this "good news"), and so Paul concludes "he(God) cannot deny himself." Again, once a person is justified, he is placed, identified, "baptized" and sealed by the Holy Spirit into the BOC. Per Ephesians 5:30 KJV:
" For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones."
Thus, Paul can say God "cannot deny himself.The LORD God cannot, and will not, deny the body of Christ, which is a spiritual organism(not organization), comprised of believers in this dispensation of the grace of God. Therefore, once a person makes a decision to believe the gospel of Christ, they are saved, justified, and cannot choose to anytime thereafter to become "unsaved/unjustified." The LORD God will remain faithful to His children, and will not deny Himself-the BOC. The promise to not "deny himself" is a reference to not being able to deny the BOC, his children. And those who do "believe not", including apostates(see Demas, an apostate-2 Tim. 4:10 KJV), may suffer loss of rewards , including reigning with Him, but they are still eternally secure.
Those that pound the table with "Apostasy is a possibility since we are not robots" cliche, perverts the gospel of Christ, focusing on "I", and confusing the doctrines of justification with sanctification. We are not "robots" in our sanctification either-that is irrelevant..
The cross of Christ is "I" crossed out. It is physically impossible to crucify yourself, and "un"crucify" yourself-a learning lesson, per Romans 15:4 KJV.
Apostasy is not only a possibility, it is an inevitability while in these bodies of flesh. Any one here ever doubted there eternal security just once in their life? I have. An honest man/woman would admit he has. But I thank the LORD God, through the Lord Jesus Christ, that my eternal security in Christ is not dependent on my faithfulness, my ability to "keep on believing", my promise to "keep on believing", but on the faithfulness and promise of the LORD God.
"In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began" Titus 1:2 KJV
My faith, the Cain's self righteous faith, is nothing and faulters all day long. My faith accepts "...the faith of Jesus Christ..."(Romans 3:22 KJV; Galatians 2:16 KJV, Galatians 2:22 KJV; Philippians 3:9 KJV) and what he did, while "religion"'s faith is a works-based performance system,which you "disguise" as "faith", and is under a curse. Works are making a claim on God(a debt) by basing your acceptance by Holy God of yourself on what you have done or will do, your "faith", your "good works", your "commitment", your "surrender" instead of what was already done for us 2000 years ago. Why is it that humans are happy to receive a gift from a loved one without insulting that loved one by asking "How much do I owe you?", but refuse the same to our Creator, redeemer, and Saviour?
Justification is a legal declaration by God of "not guilty". By definition, it is irrevocable. A criminal was has been pronounced "not guilty" is still "not guilty", whether he/she acknowledges it or not.
Also, the pardon(which is not equivalent to being justified-see my posts-you've read them), you receive by trusting in the shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ,you cannot become "unpardoned".
The LORD God's gifts, unlike sinful humanity's gifts, are irrevocable: "For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance"(Romans 11:29 KJV). Repentance means "to change your mind". In simple, "5th grade English", the Lord God says it is irrevocable, despite our often faulty opinion"/comprehension.
Before we were saved, we were the keeper of our own souls, and we could not do anything but fail in its keeping. But when we are saved, we have turned over our souls to the protection of another-the LORD God. He is now committed to the keeping of our souls to the end-it is based on His faithfulness, not ours. Depending on our faithfulness is a simple concept-we call it religion.This is the opposite of Christianity. Religion is man substituting himself for God-Christianity is God substituting Himself for man.
"Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ." 1 Cor. 1:8 KJV
"Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:" Philippians 1:6 KJV
My confirmation unto the end is and the performance of the work is in His hands, not mine. Thus, I cannot become lost by failing in my "committment" to Him, my "faith"=service. My salvation is not based on my commitment(religion)-it is based on God's commitment. Thus, the loss of personal commitment, and that includes the lack of good works, which is inevitable for me and all believers, does not affect our eternal destiny. No, the only way to lose my salvation is to somehow get God to fail in His commitment. That won't happen.
I "lose" my "commitment" daily, as every one does, as my "commitment" wavers every day, and is unreliable. Only one person to have ever walk this earth exhibited "total", "100%", unwavering "commitment" to the LORD God=the Lord Jesus Christ. And I thank God the Father, through the Lord Jesus Christ, that my justification is not dependent on my "faithfulness", which "comes short" every day, and is an unreliable, subjective gauge of my justification,but on the faithfulness, the "commitment", of the Lord Jesus Christ.
When the Lord Jesus Christ died at Calvary, I died with Him. When He was buried, I was buried with Him. When He rose from the dead, I rose from the dead. When He ascended, I ascended. I am now a "new creature"(2 Cor. 5:17 KJV, Gal. 6:15 KJV) in Christ, as my sin(singular) was judged at Calvary(Romans 8:3 KJV), and my sins(plural) were forgiven at Calvary(1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV). No charges can be filed against me, as the trial is over, as the Judge and jury met, and all charges were heard, I was judged as guilty, I "shut up" and plead guilty(Romans 3:19 KJV), who I was was "in Adam" was executed, and who I was "in Adam"(1 Cor. 5:22 KJV) is now "dead"(Col.3:3 KJV),justice was served, and am "made alive"(1 Cor. 15:22 KJV) in Christ. Who I, John W was formerly, a "walking dead man"(spiritually), died. A dead man cannot be retried, my circumcision(Col. 2:11 KJV) is irreversible, and the seal of the Holy Spirit(2 Cor. 1:22 KJV, 2 Cor. 5:5 KJV; Eph. 1:13 KJV,Eph. 4:30 KJV, Romans 8:15 KJV) is an unbreakable, guaranteed security, guaranteed ownership, guaranteed finished transaction, with the "warranty" being the Holy Spirit Himself. This seal cannot, nor will it, be broken. I now not only have forgiveness, I have justification, a judicial declaration by the LORD God, and now have the righteousness of God in Christ.
No one on this board can bring charges against me, nor any other new creature in Christ, like the Cains do, day after day with his "conditional security" bad news, regardless of our/my inevitable lack of "commitment"/"faithfulness.". And this is the "good news" of the great God and Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ.
Again:
"Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:" Phil. 1:6 KJV
I am confident of this "guarantee", based on the promise and faithfulness of the LORD God.
Yes, I often am "immature" in my "Christian living"=my walk/service/commitment....., I admit that, but I, unlike the Cains, do not base my righteous standing before a holy LORD God on my subjective, unreliable, wavering, "Christian living"/ walk/service/commitment/"continuing to believe...", as they do, but on the objective work and faithfulness of the Saviour 2000 years ago, and am therefore justified.
I like the contrast.
The Cain's protest??!!!!Translation: I, Cain, am ignorant and clueless as to what happened at Calvary and why, and thus the doctrine of justification I just don't get, even though a 5th grader who reads the Holy Bible and believes it can get it, but I am so buried in my commentaries, articles, and commentaries on commentaries on articles about opinions about opinions of what others think the Holy Bible means, I have isolated myself from The Holy Bible, and must assert that justification is a "debatable Christian issue", as all "religions" do, such as Roman Catholicism, Presys, Church of Christ'ers.....and this is why I reject the righteousness of God, imputed to believers, and this is why I reject the sealing of the Holy Spirit, reject that adoption and circumcision is irreversible, and reject that believers are dead in Christ, and cannot be put on trial again.
Accept the gift of justification,Cains. Quit perverting the gospel of Christ with your "continuing to believe...surrender...commitment......" "difficult believism" re-defining of justification, Cains.
I know, I know....We will pray for you, my dear, misguided John W, as you are not walking in the Spirit......Repent of your sins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What sin/sins?
Take it away, LORD God.....
Believers cannot be put on trial again, as we died in Him, and that would be "double jeopardy", and make the LORD God unrighteous, and we have been sealed by the Holy Spirit, and no one has the power to break that seal, despite "the Cains" of the world protests to the contrary, and circumcision is irreversible, and adoption is irreversible.
Believers, adopted sons, now have the righteousness of God in Christ based upon the work of the Saviour alone.
When the Lord Jesus Christ died, we were reckoned to have died in Him-executed, dead, justice served. DEAD.
When the Lord Jesus Christ was buried, we, who we were "in Adam", our "old man", was reckoned to be buried.
When the Lord Jesus Christ rose, we are reckoned to have rose with Him in the newness of life.
When the Lord Jesus Christ ascended, we are reckoned to have ascended with Him, seated in heavenly places.
Believe this good news.
The Cains of the world do not know what happened at Calvary, and why. And hence, due to pride, they are still pulling up their fig aprons.
They cannot choose to be unsaved, despite their unbelief/faltering faith, since justification(and sanctification, and future glorification) is dependent on the LORD God's faithfulness, not theirs. They have no power to break the Father's seal of the Spirit, which God promises to keep sealed unto the day of redemption, nor do they have the power to reverse their adoption, nor do do they have the power to be "re tried"(as in court trial), since they are dead, nor can they be "uncircumcized", nor can they chose to be "pucked"/removed from the body of Christ, as they were identified permanently as a member of this body(try plucking your eye out).
"It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself." 2 timothy 2:11-13 KJV
Read it, memorize it Cains:
"If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself..."
As I wrote, and others before me, when we believe the gospel of Christ, we become identified(basic meaning of the word baptize) with the Lord Jesus Christ's death-we died with Him-His death was credited as ours. Since we are identified with Christ's death, we cannot become "unidentified", as we are now sealed in our identification by the Holy Spirit(Eph. 1:3 KJV). Per 2 Tim. 2:12 KJV, if we suffer with Him, we will reign with Him. However, if we deny Him, He will deny us reigning with Him(Romans 8:17-18 KJV). However, 2 Timothy 2:13 KJV says "if we believe not", and Paul is including himself in this hypothetical situation. Paul is saved, and yet he says "If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful." If Paul, for some/any reason, had stopped believing, , he would still be saved, because of the LORD God's faithfulness(despite our faulty comprehension of this "good news"), and so Paul concludes "he(God) cannot deny himself." Again, once a person is justified, he is placed, identified, "baptized" and sealed by the Holy Spirit into the BOC. Per Ephesians 5:30 KJV:
" For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones."
Thus, Paul can say God "cannot deny himself.The LORD God cannot, and will not, deny the body of Christ, which is a spiritual organism(not organization), comprised of believers in this dispensation of the grace of God. Therefore, once a person makes a decision to believe the gospel of Christ, they are saved, justified, and cannot choose to anytime thereafter to become "unsaved/unjustified." The LORD God will remain faithful to His children, and will not deny Himself-the BOC. The promise to not "deny himself" is a reference to not being able to deny the BOC, his children. And those who do "believe not", including apostates(see Demas, an apostate-2 Tim. 4:10 KJV), may suffer loss of rewards , including reigning with Him, but they are still eternally secure.
Those that pound the table with "Apostasy is a possibility since we are not robots" cliche, perverts the gospel of Christ, focusing on "I", and confusing the doctrines of justification with sanctification. We are not "robots" in our sanctification either-that is irrelevant..
The cross of Christ is "I" crossed out. It is physically impossible to crucify yourself, and "un"crucify" yourself-a learning lesson, per Romans 15:4 KJV.
Apostasy is not only a possibility, it is an inevitability while in these bodies of flesh. Any one here ever doubted there eternal security just once in their life? I have. An honest man/woman would admit he has. But I thank the LORD God, through the Lord Jesus Christ, that my eternal security in Christ is not dependent on my faithfulness, my ability to "keep on believing", my promise to "keep on believing", but on the faithfulness and promise of the LORD God.
"In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began" Titus 1:2 KJV
My faith, the Cain's self righteous faith, is nothing and faulters all day long. My faith accepts "...the faith of Jesus Christ..."(Romans 3:22 KJV; Galatians 2:16 KJV, Galatians 2:22 KJV; Philippians 3:9 KJV) and what he did, while "religion"'s faith is a works-based performance system,which you "disguise" as "faith", and is under a curse. Works are making a claim on God(a debt) by basing your acceptance by Holy God of yourself on what you have done or will do, your "faith", your "good works", your "commitment", your "surrender" instead of what was already done for us 2000 years ago. Why is it that humans are happy to receive a gift from a loved one without insulting that loved one by asking "How much do I owe you?", but refuse the same to our Creator, redeemer, and Saviour?
Justification is a legal declaration by God of "not guilty". By definition, it is irrevocable. A criminal was has been pronounced "not guilty" is still "not guilty", whether he/she acknowledges it or not.
Also, the pardon(which is not equivalent to being justified-see my posts-you've read them), you receive by trusting in the shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ,you cannot become "unpardoned".
The LORD God's gifts, unlike sinful humanity's gifts, are irrevocable: "For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance"(Romans 11:29 KJV). Repentance means "to change your mind". In simple, "5th grade English", the Lord God says it is irrevocable, despite our often faulty opinion"/comprehension.
Before we were saved, we were the keeper of our own souls, and we could not do anything but fail in its keeping. But when we are saved, we have turned over our souls to the protection of another-the LORD God. He is now committed to the keeping of our souls to the end-it is based on His faithfulness, not ours. Depending on our faithfulness is a simple concept-we call it religion.This is the opposite of Christianity. Religion is man substituting himself for God-Christianity is God substituting Himself for man.
"Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ." 1 Cor. 1:8 KJV
"Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:" Philippians 1:6 KJV
My confirmation unto the end is and the performance of the work is in His hands, not mine. Thus, I cannot become lost by failing in my "committment" to Him, my "faith"=service. My salvation is not based on my commitment(religion)-it is based on God's commitment. Thus, the loss of personal commitment, and that includes the lack of good works, which is inevitable for me and all believers, does not affect our eternal destiny. No, the only way to lose my salvation is to somehow get God to fail in His commitment. That won't happen.
I "lose" my "commitment" daily, as every one does, as my "commitment" wavers every day, and is unreliable. Only one person to have ever walk this earth exhibited "total", "100%", unwavering "commitment" to the LORD God=the Lord Jesus Christ. And I thank God the Father, through the Lord Jesus Christ, that my justification is not dependent on my "faithfulness", which "comes short" every day, and is an unreliable, subjective gauge of my justification,but on the faithfulness, the "commitment", of the Lord Jesus Christ.
When the Lord Jesus Christ died at Calvary, I died with Him. When He was buried, I was buried with Him. When He rose from the dead, I rose from the dead. When He ascended, I ascended. I am now a "new creature"(2 Cor. 5:17 KJV, Gal. 6:15 KJV) in Christ, as my sin(singular) was judged at Calvary(Romans 8:3 KJV), and my sins(plural) were forgiven at Calvary(1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV). No charges can be filed against me, as the trial is over, as the Judge and jury met, and all charges were heard, I was judged as guilty, I "shut up" and plead guilty(Romans 3:19 KJV), who I was was "in Adam" was executed, and who I was "in Adam"(1 Cor. 5:22 KJV) is now "dead"(Col.3:3 KJV),justice was served, and am "made alive"(1 Cor. 15:22 KJV) in Christ. Who I, John W was formerly, a "walking dead man"(spiritually), died. A dead man cannot be retried, my circumcision(Col. 2:11 KJV) is irreversible, and the seal of the Holy Spirit(2 Cor. 1:22 KJV, 2 Cor. 5:5 KJV; Eph. 1:13 KJV,Eph. 4:30 KJV, Romans 8:15 KJV) is an unbreakable, guaranteed security, guaranteed ownership, guaranteed finished transaction, with the "warranty" being the Holy Spirit Himself. This seal cannot, nor will it, be broken. I now not only have forgiveness, I have justification, a judicial declaration by the LORD God, and now have the righteousness of God in Christ.
No one on this board can bring charges against me, nor any other new creature in Christ, like the Cains do, day after day with his "conditional security" bad news, regardless of our/my inevitable lack of "commitment"/"faithfulness.". And this is the "good news" of the great God and Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ.
Again:
"Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:" Phil. 1:6 KJV
I am confident of this "guarantee", based on the promise and faithfulness of the LORD God.
Yes, I often am "immature" in my "Christian living"=my walk/service/commitment....., I admit that, but I, unlike the Cains, do not base my righteous standing before a holy LORD God on my subjective, unreliable, wavering, "Christian living"/ walk/service/commitment/"continuing to believe...", as they do, but on the objective work and faithfulness of the Saviour 2000 years ago, and am therefore justified.
I like the contrast.
The Cain's protest??!!!!Translation: I, Cain, am ignorant and clueless as to what happened at Calvary and why, and thus the doctrine of justification I just don't get, even though a 5th grader who reads the Holy Bible and believes it can get it, but I am so buried in my commentaries, articles, and commentaries on commentaries on articles about opinions about opinions of what others think the Holy Bible means, I have isolated myself from The Holy Bible, and must assert that justification is a "debatable Christian issue", as all "religions" do, such as Roman Catholicism, Presys, Church of Christ'ers.....and this is why I reject the righteousness of God, imputed to believers, and this is why I reject the sealing of the Holy Spirit, reject that adoption and circumcision is irreversible, and reject that believers are dead in Christ, and cannot be put on trial again.
Accept the gift of justification,Cains. Quit perverting the gospel of Christ with your "continuing to believe...surrender...commitment......" "difficult believism" re-defining of justification, Cains.
I know, I know....We will pray for you, my dear, misguided John W, as you are not walking in the Spirit......Repent of your sins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What sin/sins?
Take it away, LORD God.....
