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ClimateSanity

ClimateSanity

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rexlunae said:
Because that's how our government works, it's the entire basis of our republic, and I'm not a crazed conspiracy theorist like your man Trump and his allies.
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Our government works like a gang of criminals? I agree. Buts that's why Trump is going to lock them all up.
Trump and people involved with him were surveilled. Trump is getting to the bottom of it. No conspiracy needed.

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rexlunae

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ClimateSanity said:
All the evidence says otherwise.
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Only if you believe that any resistance to your political leader is illegitimate. It's not. Most of the civil service has served under presidents of both parties. What you have is a president with a radical agenda attempting to govern by decree, and meeting the institutional resistance built into the system by Congress deliberately. The government isn't meant to work by decree. Just a few months ago, conservatives were complaining that Obama was trying to rule by dictate, and now, when Trump's agenda is what is meeting resistance, you think it's illegitimate.
 
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rexlunae said:
Only if you believe that any resistance to your political leader is illegitimate. It's not. Most of the civil service has served under presidents of both parties. What you have is a president with a radical agenda attempting to govern by decree, and meeting the institutional resistance built into the system by Congress deliberately. The government isn't meant to work by decree. Just a few months ago, conservatives were complaining that Obama was trying to rule by dictate, and now, when Trump's agenda is what is meeting resistance, you think it's illegitimate.
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Much of the evidence I refer happened before Trump took office. It's not the job of bureaucrats to determine what's a radical agenda. Their job is to follow the directives of the executive. The things you think should be resisted are liberal issues, not American. The world does not follow your twisted view of right and wrong and should not have it forced down our throats via unelected bureaucrats loyal to a past administration.

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rexlunae said:
Only if you believe that any resistance to your political leader is illegitimate. It's not. Most of the civil service has served under presidents of both parties. What you have is a president with a radical agenda attempting to govern by decree, and meeting the institutional resistance built into the system by Congress deliberately. The government isn't meant to work by decree. Just a few months ago, conservatives were complaining that Obama was trying to rule by dictate, and now, when Trump's agenda is what is meeting resistance, you think it's illegitimate.
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Partisan hacks loyal to a past president is not institutional resistance built into the system by Congress.

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annabenedetti said:
American conservatives acting as conduits and apologists for Russian propaganda. Who would have thought it?

RT has been frequently described as a propaganda outlet for the Russian government[12][13][14] and its foreign policy.[12][14][15][16][17][18] RT has also been accused of spreading disinformation[18][19][20] by news reporters,[21][22]including former RT reporters.[23][24][25] The United Kingdom media regulator, Ofcom, has repeatedly found RT to have breached rules on impartiality, and of broadcasting "materially misleading" content.[26][27][28][29]

Former KGB officer turned political refugee, Konstantin Preobrazhensky, criticized RT as "a part of the Russian industry of misinformation and manipulation".[22] RT presents itself as a liberal alternative in the United States, but in Europe it appears to have become the flagship of resurgent nationalist parties.[155]
Linas Antanas Linkevičius, Lithuania's Minister of Foreign Affairs, posted on Twitter on 9 March 2014 amid the Crimean crisis, "Russia Today propaganda machine is no less destructive than military marching in Crimea".[156]
United States Secretary of State John Kerry referred to RT as a state-sponsored "propaganda bullhorn" and he continued by saying, "Russia Today [sic] network has deployed to promote president Putin's fantasy about what is playing out on the ground. They almost spend full-time devoted to this effort, to propagandize, and to distort what is happening or not happening in Ukraine."[157] RT responded that they wanted "an official response from the U.S. Department of State substantiating Mr. Kerry's claims."[158] Richard Stengel from the U.S. Department of State responded.[19] Stengel stated in his response, "RT is a distortion machine, not a news organization," concluding that "the network and its editors should not pretend that RT is anything other than another player in Russia's global disinformation campaign against the people of Ukraine and their supporters". However, Stengel supports RT's right to broadcast in the United States.[159]
In Russia, Andrey Illarionov, former advisor to Vladimir Putin, has called the channel "the best Russian propaganda machine targeted at the outside world".[39][94]Media analyst Vasily Gatov wrote in a 2014 Moscow Times article that sharp ethical and reporting skills are not required for Russian media employees, including RT .[160]
Cliff Kincaid, the director of Accuracy in Media's Center for Investigative Journalism, called RT "the well-known disinformation outlet for Russian propaganda".[161]
RT was banned in Ukraine since August 2014.[162]




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Don't trust RT for your news.
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More fake news. John Kerry? Seriously?


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