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The Heroic Gunslinger Fantasy
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Greg Jennings
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Let's be honest: neither has been very good
Seriously...We are at a point in the history of this country's leadership (or rather the lack thereof) where not "as stupid as..." is considered an endorsement.
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Seriously...We are at a point in the history of this country's leadership where not "as stupid as..." is considered an endorsement.
We haven't had an actual, real leader in the White House since JFK. And look at what happened to him fifty-two years ago today.
That was the CENTRAL point I addressed.
No. But your proposal would increase the number of non-trained people. Think about it - what culture will have the most trained people carrying guns?: the gun culture or the only-special-people-are-allowed-to-have-guns culture?
Heck yeah I'd like someone with more training as opposed to someone with less training. But then again everyone in that theater sure would have preferred somebody, anybody, with a defensive gun as opposed to the slaughter that they got.
And a couple more points can be made. First, there has never been a defensive shooter at a shooting that "wildly starts shooting." They've all, even with little training, showed discretion commensurate with their skill. Even if you can find a case, the times where a non-trained person handled themselves well enough in a shooting to save lives is a very tall stack that your wild-shooters can ever reach.
And secondly, having a gun culture increases the chances that any random person will not only have a gun, but have some training to use it.
This one happened this morning. "Heroic gunslinger" was not on the homeowners mind he shot the intruder during the home invasion.
The two men went to the back of the home and broke in through the back door. They were inside the home when an exchange of gunfire rang out. The homeowner shot and killed one of the would be burglars. The other suspect fled the scene.
The deceased burglar has been identified by his family as 19-year-old Tramel Day. Police have his gun. They have also taken the homeowner's gun in for evidence
.The deceased burglar has been identified by his family as 19-year-old Tramel Day. Police have his gun. They have also taken the homeowner's gun in for evidence
This home owner was not thinking of some sort of heroic gunslinger fantasy when he had to shoot a man when his home was being invaded.
Madison County Sheriff John Lakin said the homeowner had every right to protect his property – and he did.
“At this point we still don`t know what the motive was here or what the suspect was thinking,” Lakin said.
So what advice is the sheriff offering?
“If you go into a home at 12:30 in the morning, it might be time to change professions,” he said.
“At this point we still don`t know what the motive was here or what the suspect was thinking,” Lakin said.
So what advice is the sheriff offering?
“If you go into a home at 12:30 in the morning, it might be time to change professions,” he said.
One robber deceased courtesy of the home owner. The second has been caught and is being charged with attempted murder.
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JosephR
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Ronald Reagan was long thought to be the most conservative of Republicans. And by any standard today he is the most popular Republican in modern history. Yet he
- raised taxes 11 times,
- supported a ban on assault rifles and the Brady Bill,
- which mandated background checks, and
- established amnesty for 3 million undocumented workers.
(Mark McKinnon)
- raised taxes 11 times,
- supported a ban on assault rifles and the Brady Bill,
- which mandated background checks, and
- established amnesty for 3 million undocumented workers.
(Mark McKinnon)
- a department (US State Department) spokesperson says Iraq's chemical weapons use will not change U.S. interest in pursuing closer U.S.-Iraq relations.
How quick conservatives like "ok doser" forget!
In 1984, the Reagan Administration (where GHW Bush served as Vice President) went on record as having no reservations about Saddam's chemical weapons - even when he was actively using them against the Iranians and his own people - the Kurds!
The Reagan Administration even tried to persuade its allies not to vote to condemn Iraq's use of chemical weapons by the United Nations.
The only time America decided that the world (and Israel) needed saving from WMD was when the they were looking for an excuse to invade Iraq after 9/11.