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Truster

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Our intentions, thoughts, and words should always honour Elohim and communicate the fact that we value that which He has made and revere Him.

There is also the issue of making others stumble, which can easily be done with jokes. Others might consider the jokes as being offensive, hurtful, irreverent or impure. If you are using liberty then you might be doing so at the expense of another’s conscience as it is written:
"It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones."

Jokes are usually lies and we know who the father of lies is as we know who his children are...
 

patrick jane

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Our intentions, thoughts, and words should always honour Elohim and communicate the fact that we value that which He has made and revere Him.

There is also the issue of making others stumble, which can easily be done with jokes. Others might consider the jokes as being offensive, hurtful, irreverent or impure. If you are using liberty then you might be doing so at the expense of another’s conscience as it is written:
"It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones."

Jokes are usually lies and we know who the father of lies is as we know who his children are...
Great joke Truster !!!!
 

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You might want to do some more study.


1Jo 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
The trouble is that there is no καὶ between father and word. The word is YHWH, not the christ.
 

dodge

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The trouble is that there is no καὶ between father and word. The word is YHWH, not the christ.

They are one and the same ! Re-read John 1:1 i.e. "in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word WAS God".

Then jump to John 1:14 "and the word became flesh and dwelt among us".

Then jump to John 8:58 where Jesus told them "before Abraham He was i.e. the "I AM".

Then you might want to read Thomas's response to seeing Jesus alive after He was crucified which was " My Lord and my God". Since Jesus did not correct Thomas if Jesus isn't God He would be guilty of accepting worship and praise only God is worthy to receive.

There are many many more scriptures that prove Jesus is God but you can only see them when you seek God with all of your heart.
 

SabathMoon

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John 1:1c with Greek
καὶ θεὸς ἦν<-->"... and the god, it was."
YHWH is the word that is the god; not Yeshua.

John 1:14a with Greek
Καὶ ὁ λόγος σὰρξ ἐγένετο <--> and a word the flesh was being happened/started ...
Not the same logos.

John 8:58 with Greek
πρὶν Ἀβραὰμ γενέσθαι ἐγὼ εἰμί <--> prior Abraham becoming thus, I am (he).
It was about Abraham still being alive, and seeing his day and being happy about it.

John 20:28b with Greek
ὁ κύριός μου καὶ ὁ θεός μου <--> My lord and My God (with 3rd person plural missing)
Kai and mou seperate both parts of the would be subject or start of the sentence.

English translations are not proof of anything because they are sloppy. It needs to improve.
 

SabathMoon

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The only sloppy translations here are yours. They need to improve.
John 1:14a with Greek
They aren't sloppy. The idenifite articular construct is older than the english definite articular constructs.

Yes, the exact same Logos.
"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." This logos not the logos of the hebrew name YHWH.

Anything else would be idolatry.

See, there's a funny thing about the greek language. When the Greeks talk about gods, they rarely (if ever) put a definite article in front of "theos," because they're polytheistic, and defining one of their gods as "the god" would elevate one as "the god." But when talking about the one true God of the Bible, except for a few exceptions where the grammar requires differently, God is written as "the God," or "ho theos."
They rarely do that because they are talking about a specific god. That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

For example, "TO AN UNKNOWN GOD," or "AGNOSTO THEO," is the inscription Paul mentions in Acts 17:23. Not "AGNOSTO HO THEO," because that would imply "the" God. When there's no definite article in front of a noun in Greek, it's like putting "a" or "an" in front of a noun in English. Paul, in verse 24, calls this "unknown god" of the Greeks "The God" in the very next verse. If this distinction was not here in the Bible, between the way the greek pagans spoke greek and the way believers in Christ spoke Greek, defining "ho theos" instead of just "theos," it would be very difficult to determine which "god" or "God" is being talked about.
"To the unnoticed one the god". Even your example is unconvincing.

Seems pretty clear to me that Jesus was the Lord of him and the God of him.
Seems to me you don't know what the nominative case is.

The only sloppy translations here are yours. They need to improve.
You need to consider that you are an idolator.
 

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Millions of Ame4ricans with pre-existing conditions are faced with the loss of their health insurance and the best that conservatives can do is start a thread about a school refusing to pass out cards for a child's birthday party!
 

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We have healthcare threads, numbskull. Post your support of failing Obummercare there.

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"Patrick jane" must be working full time combing the internet for morsels of "red meat" to serve up to the conservatives on this Forum!

Like Donald Trump, however, "Patrick jane" resorts in true conservative fashion (name calling, bullying) when he can't get his own way!
 
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"Patrick jane" must be working full time combing the internet for morsels of "red meat" to serve up to the conservatives on this Forum!

Like Donald Trump, however, "Patrick jane" resorts in true conservative fashion (name calling, bullying) when he can't get his own way!

Clearly, you don't care about the children who aren't allowed to have best friends, nor invite who they want to their birthday parties because you want the nanny state in charge from CRADLE TO GRAVE.

Go away, you liberal nutter, and preach your lies in a health care thread where they belong.
 

jgarden

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Calling perverse things perverse =/= expecting the world to behave as saved people.

You also need to work on elementary logic, and not letting your emotional investments cloud your thinking.

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A President who chooses not to distinguish between white supremacists/neo-fascists/the KKK and "good people" is the height of "perversity!"

Does this President and his repeated bullying, intimidation tactics and "name-calling" represent the kind of behaviour that serves as model for America's children to emulate?

Given half a chance, this President would sign legislation to repeal and replace Obamacare, leaving millions of American children and their families without medical coverage - especially if they suffer from pre-existing conditions!
 

patrick jane

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A President who chooses not to distinguish between white supremacists/neo-fascists/the KKK and "good people" is the height of "perversity!"

Does this President and his repeated bullying, intimidation tactics and "name-calling" represent the kind of behaviour that serves as model for America's children to emulate?

Given half a chance, this President would sign legislation to repeal and replace Obamacare, leaving millions of American children and their families without medical coverage - especially if they suffer from pre-existing conditions!
Is this about the OP? We have Trump threads available.
 

patrick jane

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5 year old show more common sense than leftist perverts



This thread is about our resident conservatives following the tried and true formula of combing the internet for isolated incidents and then attempting to brand all "leftists" as "perverts" with a broad brush!

This is the Political Forum, so for "patrick jane" to complain when "musterion" tries to change the narrative, it creates the distinct impression that conservatives would prefer to divert attention to discuss something/anything other the escapades of this President in the White House!
We have plenty of threads to complain about Trump, this thread is about schools teaching small children about changing sexes. If you can't respect the rules of TOL take it up with the owner and take your show on the road.
 

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Yeah, just a referee on his knee with the rest of the unpatriotic slobs on the sidelines.

Even Robert Kraft, the owner and CEO of the New England Patriots, a close friend of "The Donald" and contributor of $1 million to the President's Inauguration criticized Trump and supported his players.

The President, in his infinite wisdom, has taken a few isolated incidents and made it a point of honor that NFL players, coaches and owners to display acts of solidarity against "The Donald's" tweets and file the moral leadership vacuum that has been vacated by POTUS and Republican politicians.
 

glorydaz

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Even Robert Kraft, the owner and CEO of the New England Patriots, a close friend of "The Donald" and contributor of $1 million to the President's Inauguration criticized Trump and supported his players.

The President, in his infinite wisdom, has taken a few isolated incidents and made it a point of honor that NFL players, coaches and owners to display acts of solidarity against "The Donald's" tweets and file the moral leadership vacuum that has been vacated by POTUS and Republican politicians.

And you're entitled to your opinion. If those players want to put their "honor" on the line, who cares?
 
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