Sometimes President Trump Gets It Right
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drbrumley
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Your example is pathetic....big pharma is in bed with the government. Try again
The free market is not a god, you libertarian idolater. It doesn't solve all problems. We do not owe it our sacrifices, nor does it demand of us our religious devotion.
It is certainly the case that government corruption is a problem, but the solution to that isn't to abolish, or else, restrict the scope of the government's regulatory authority. The solution is to kick business out of government, not government out of business.
We need campaign finance reform.
drbrumley
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In other words, fascism. No thank you...
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
only in the most extreme cases and with the acknowledgment by the patient or their proxy that it's a crapshoot
I don't agree. The most extreme cases are precisely those cases where we should be most wary of the corporate profit motive.
Yes, because everything you don't like is fascism.
I say the same to you as I would to a blue haired feminist: learn what words mean.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
then remove the profit and force the manufacturers to provide untested drugs gratis
drbrumley
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:rotfl: Now I am going to be lectured on what a fascist is...…
Do me a favor Trad, you stick your leftist nonsense where the sun doesn't shine.
That's an interesting proposal. I'm not sure that I'm opposed to this idea. The patients could be used as test subjects for FDA testing. The money would come from corporate R&D budgets.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
Alex. Jones. Sells. Health. Supplements.
"Snake oil salesman" isn't just a turn of phrase. That actually used to happen before regulation.
Going back to your proposal, though, Ok Doser:
The only problem I can see here is that health insurance companies might be incentivized to opt for the free, developmental drugs over drugs that have actually been tested.
But you can solve this problem simply by stipulating that the "right to try" only can occur if all other effective treatments have failed.
The only problem I can see here is that health insurance companies might be incentivized to opt for the free, developmental drugs over drugs that have actually been tested.
But you can solve this problem simply by stipulating that the "right to try" only can occur if all other effective treatments have failed.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
what claims do modern marketers of alternative therapies make that are fraudulent or deceptive (the definition of "swindle")?
for example, what claims does (did?) alex jones make about the supplements he sold?
Wrong. Testing studies will be available. What won't be available is an approval by the FDA.
Do you think that human testing doesn't take place before the FDA gives approval?
I get the distinct feeling you have no clue in this discussion.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
Worked in basic research using animal models, primarily rats, in research that lead to the current crop of cholesterol drugs
Worked on clinical trials for surfactant use in preemies
Currently working in direct patient care, studying medications, their interactions, etc
How about you?
Worked with people who have to make life and death decisions on a daily basis. Worked with people for whom a clinical trial that is ten years down the road before approval means they are dead.
Keep doing your job...and speed it up...[emoji41]