Sin and Guilt = Religion

Robert Pate

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It was Satan's plan from the beginning to make Adam and Eve sinful and guilty so that they would become religious. After Adam and Eve had sinned the scripture says that their eyes were opened and they knew that they were naked, Genesis 3:7. When they discovered that they were naked they sewed fig leaves together to hide their nakedness and themselves from the Lord. Religion does not brings people closer to the Lord, it actually drives them away from the Lord. After Adam and Eve had sinned they should have gone to the Lord and confessed that they had sinned, instead they tried to cover up their sinful condition with fig leaves and hiding themselves (religion).

Satan had successfully established the first church of the "Fig Leaves", a covering for sin. religion is a covering for sin. It does not really deal with man's sin problem, it just hides it with works and piety, which are fig leaves.

Later we have Adam and Eves two grown sons Cain and Abel. The Lord apparently required an offering from them. Cain's offering consisted of vegetables that he had grown in his garden. Abel's offering was a blood offering, one of the firstlings from his flock. The scripture says that the Lord was pleased with Abel's offering, but had no respect for Cain's offering. Abel's offering pointed to Christ and his atonement for our sins and the sins of the world. Cain's offering came from the work of his hands, something that he had done (religion).

Men have been trying to return to the garden through religion, the way of Cain. No sooner had Adam sinned and God promised him a savior, Genesis 3:15. The promise of a savior is a thread that goes through the Old Testament and becomes a reality in the New Testament. In the Old Testament era people were justified by faith in God's promise of a savior, Romans 4:3, They looked forward to when the savior would arrive. Today, we look back to when he was here. We are much more fortunate than the Old Testament saints because we have a written record of him and what he accomplished. We also are justified by faith. We believe that God has fulfilled his promise in sending Jesus to be our savior, Acts 2:39.

Justification by faith, means that we have been justified by Christ. To be justified by Christ means that there is no need for religion. We that are justified by faith have discarded our fig leaves and stand before God as naked and sinful confessing that Christ and Christ alone is our savior and that we have no confidence in the flesh (religion).
 

Rylan of Ohio

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religion
noun re·li·gion \ri-ˈli-jən\
Simple Definition of religion
: the belief in a god or in a group of gods
: an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods.

The gospel does not vanquish the belief in a god, or dispel an organized system of beliefs. What you have just uttered is a religious claim in itself.
 

Robert Pate

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religion
noun re·li·gion \ri-ˈli-jən\
Simple Definition of religion
: the belief in a god or in a group of gods
: an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods.

The gospel does not vanquish the belief in a god, or dispel an organized system of beliefs. What you have just uttered is a religious claim in itself.


RELIGION: Ligare, which means to bind. Man is trying to rebind his relationship with God through the works of the law (religion).

My definition of Religion: Man's attempt to become acceptable to God by what he is or by what he has become.

Man is a sinner. God does not accept the works or the obedience of sinners. God only accepts the works and the person of Jesus Christ. We are accepted only in him. His works, His obedience, His piety, His merits.
 

jamie

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My definition of Religion: Man's attempt to become acceptable to God by what he is or by what he has become.

My definition of Religion: Man's attempt to comply with what one perceives to be God's expectations and to do so with love toward God.
 

Bradley D

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There is religion that is meaningful and religion that is vain.

"Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world" (James 1:27).

One knows within whether their religion is vain or not. Others often see it also. In the end God who knows all will be the judge.

I do not believe in proclaiming all religion is wrong.
 

dialm

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Banned
But Pate certainly is on to something with his admixture.

The Tower of Babel was built on half truths. No one would have help Robert Nimrod Pate without first asking Mr. Religion for permission.
 

Robert Pate

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But Pate certainly is on to something with his admixture.

The Tower of Babel was built on half truths. No one would have help Robert Nimrod Pate without first asking Mr. Religion for permission.


The Tower of Babel was built by rebellious sinners that wanted to defy God. Kind of like you.
 

patrick jane

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Banned
There is religion that is meaningful and religion that is vain.

"Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world" (James 1:27).

One knows within whether their religion is vain or not. Others often see it also. In the end God who knows all will be the judge.

I do not believe in proclaiming all religion is wrong.
Does God compare us to others ? Are we compared to other sinners ?
 

serpentdove

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It was Satan's plan from the beginning to make Adam and Eve sinful and guilty so that they would become religious. After Adam and Eve had sinned the scripture says that their eyes were opened and they knew that they were naked, Genesis 3:7. When they discovered that they were naked they sewed fig leaves together to hide their nakedness and themselves from the Lord. Religion does not brings people closer to the Lord, it actually drives them away from the Lord. After Adam and Eve had sinned they should have gone to the Lord and confessed that they had sinned, instead they tried to cover up their sinful condition with fig leaves and hiding themselves (religion).

Satan had successfully established the first church of the "Fig Leaves", a covering for sin. religion is a covering for sin. It does not really deal with man's sin problem, it just hides it with works and piety, which are fig leaves...
2 Chron 16:9
 

serpentdove

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Banned
There is religion that is meaningful and religion that is vain.

"Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world" (James 1:27).

Give me that old time religion Gary Cooper & Walter Brennan 1941
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patrick jane

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"In [Paul's] writings alone we find the doctrine, position, walk, and destiny of the church."
- Dr. Cyrus I. Scofield





 

jamie

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God only accepts perfection. Me thinks that you are in serious trouble.

Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection...​

You're not even trying.

:sigh:
 

Nick M

Black Rifles Matter
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religion
noun re·li·gion \ri-ˈli-jən\
Simple Definition of religion
: the belief in a god or in a group of gods
: an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods.
The belief in God is not religion. That is called theism. The definition is intentionally wrong and you are too stupid to see it. Or you are evil.
 

Nick M

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the·ism

/ˈTHēˌizəm/

noun

noun: theism


belief in the existence of a god or gods, especially belief in one god as creator of the universe, intervening in it and sustaining a personal relation to his creatures.
 
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