ECT Similarities between MADists and Marcionites.
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musterion
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But it can't read a Greek interlinear. Remember when I spanked you with Berry's Greek, which you cited oh so arrogantly? Good times.
No, your attempted analogy was a joke.
You Dispies go out of your way to avoid any link to John Nelson Darby, all the while parroting the teachings of John Nelson Darby.
I can't imagine the strange paradox you guys live in.
No problem Sancho Panza.
Er, no.
Your "secret condition" theory in Matt 24:34 was the most desperate of all the explanations of Matt 24:34 I ever saw by a Darby follower.
musterion
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It wasn't a secret condition. It's right there in your own (alleged) copy of Berry (which I don't believe you own). I even made copious posts from Biblehub showing it too. You can't refute it.
Scofield's list of dispensations is based on Isaac Watts's list, not Darby's and Watt's long preceeded Darby.
John Calvin spoke of dispensations.
Darby systematized a dispensational framework but dispensational concepts were floating around post-reformation and are Scripturally based.
Is Kathy Ireland Irish?
musterion
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Why are you comparing yourself to a gorgeous supermodel? You are a weirdo.
You do know that Scofield defined a "dispensation" as a period of time?
Apparently MAD Max and his dingo don't agree with Scofield.
Here are Watts dispensations:
I. The Dispensation of Innocency
II. Adam after the Fall
III. The Noahic Dispensation
IV. The Abrahamic Dispensation
V. The Mosaic Dispensation
VI. The Christian Dispensation
There's no hope for any kind of dialog with you. You're as bad as Johnny W.
musterion
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You're right. Once you ignored the Greek of your own Bible (assuming you own one), I knew we would never get along.
I've already explained to you what the Bible says a dispensation is, but you would rather chase dead men than believe God. That's fine, you are certainly free to run around in circles if you choose.
A dispensation (administration) is not a period of time. A project is not a period of time, but they do last a period of time. I'm not sure why that is so difficult for you to comprehend.
I didn't ignore it. I made it clear that you are dead wrong.
Because you have to make Matt 24:34 fit your Dispensationalism, you turn the verse into a pretzel.
You make the same mistake Darby made (Or, you're a follower of Darby).
You ignore the covenants, and claim dispensations.
" A dispensation is a period of time during which man is tested in respect of obedience to some specific revelation of the will of God.” - Scofield Reference Bible, Page 5
musterion
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No I didn't. I took it as it lays and cited the only possible condition, which Christ pointed to throughout His ministry, as did Peter at Pentecost.
You're the one who twisted it by making the first thing out of your mouth after seeing an for the first time, this:
And as if that wasn't random, irrelevant and stupid enough, then you posted,
Which, as phrased, involves absolutely no contingency or uncertainty or conditionality at all, completely avoiding the an issue.
In short, you did what you always do and are doing now: simply ignoring what you don't like or can't rebut. Because you're a cultic simpleton.
musterion
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Here, I'll post it again. Email it to whoever staff's Hank's Top Secret Insider Subscriber Hotline and let them explain it to you.
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Part of Speech: Particle, Disjunctive Particle
Transliteration: an
Phonetic Spelling: (an)
Short Definition: an untranslatable word that makes a statement contingent
Definition: an untranslatable word (under the circumstances, in that case, anyhow), the general effect of which is to make a statement contingent, which would otherwise be definite: it is thus regularly used with the subjunctive mood.
302 án – a conditional particle expressing possibility, based on a preexisting condition (stipulation, prerequisite). This adds an important theoretical (hypothetical) sense to a statement which narrows down the sense of that statement.
302 (an) "indicates what can (could) occur – but only on certain conditions, or by the combination of certain fortuitous causes" (J. Thayer). Only the context determines how 302 (án) "limits" ("conditions") the statement by the possibility (condition) involved.
Accordingly, 302 (án) is often called the "untranslatable particle." However, it always influences ("conditions") its sentence and is key to properly understanding the verse (passage) in which it occurs.
[Though 302 (án) is not easily "translatable," it always conveys important meaning. (The KJV sometimes translates an as "perchance," "haply.")
302 (an) is used about 300 times in the NT, introducing statements that have conditional or hypothetical meaning.]
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an: usually untranslatable, but generally denoting supposition, wish, possibility or uncertainty.
Original Word: ἄν
Part of Speech: Particle, Disjunctive Particle
Transliteration: an
Phonetic Spelling: (an)
Short Definition: an untranslatable word that makes a statement contingent
Definition: an untranslatable word (under the circumstances, in that case, anyhow), the general effect of which is to make a statement contingent, which would otherwise be definite: it is thus regularly used with the subjunctive mood.
302 án – a conditional particle expressing possibility, based on a preexisting condition (stipulation, prerequisite). This adds an important theoretical (hypothetical) sense to a statement which narrows down the sense of that statement.
302 (an) "indicates what can (could) occur – but only on certain conditions, or by the combination of certain fortuitous causes" (J. Thayer). Only the context determines how 302 (án) "limits" ("conditions") the statement by the possibility (condition) involved.
Accordingly, 302 (án) is often called the "untranslatable particle." However, it always influences ("conditions") its sentence and is key to properly understanding the verse (passage) in which it occurs.
[Though 302 (án) is not easily "translatable," it always conveys important meaning. (The KJV sometimes translates an as "perchance," "haply.")
302 (an) is used about 300 times in the NT, introducing statements that have conditional or hypothetical meaning.]
So what? I belong to Christ, not Scofield. Who do you belong to?
I've never discussed the covenants with you, so you can stop lying now. We are talking about what a dispensation is, which you cannot comprehend, because of an obsession you have with men.